Re: Compassionate Communication
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: March 20, 2010 11:35PM
In most cases, the citations indicate lists where books, TV programs or workshops by BK or facilitators occur side by side, at different times, at the same center or on a list of resources.
This google search
"nonviolent communication" "byron katie"
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This list of citations included two citations for books on nonviolent communication, one by Marshall B Rosenberg, 'Non Violent Communication: A Language of Life by Marshall Rosenberg
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There is nothing on the cover photo or sidebars that names Byron Katie. But if you look at the reviews you get this:
Reviews
This google search
"nonviolent communication" "byron katie"
[www.google.com]
This list of citations included two citations for books on nonviolent communication, one by Marshall B Rosenberg, 'Non Violent Communication: A Language of Life by Marshall Rosenberg
[books.google.com]
There is nothing on the cover photo or sidebars that names Byron Katie. But if you look at the reviews you get this:
Reviews
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There is nothing on the cover photo or sidebars that names Byron Katie. But if you look at one of the 140 plus reviews there are examples where people are combining NVC with BK material. Nonviolent Communication Companion Workbook: A Practical Guide
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So in what a sociologist has termed 'cultic milieu' BK, NVC and others mingle about.QuoteQuote
Cultic Milieu--a Possibly Helpful Concept?
'The concept of 'cultural milieu', as developed by sociologist Bryan Wilson,is very helpful in understanding this conglomeration of alternatives. According to Wilson, there is exists in Western societies, a milieu, which he terms 'cultic' where much that is rejected by the dominent cultureaccumulates.(Corboy's italics) -- alternative therapies, alternative beliefs, and to some extent, alternative lifestyles.
'Both ideas and persons usually belong more to the milieu than to any specific group within it. Individuals easily shift their allegiences from group to group and idea to idea, and ideas and groups are themselves linked to each other by a shared network of publications and venues. ('Venues' meaning places where people socialize and meet face to face C)
From Bryan R. Wilson, The Social Dimensions of Sectarianism: Sects and New Religious Movements in Contemporary Society, (Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1990)
Quoted in a book by Mark Sedgwick, page 48-49 'Against the Modern World: Traditionislm and the Secret Intellectual History of the Twentieth Century: Oxford University Press, 2004
This 'mingling of alternatives' may bring together persons, who through sincere use of NVC and commitment to nonviolent communication as a way of life, be less able to recognize, evaluate and assert themselves in relation to other, more goal oriented entrepreneurs offering their forms of communication enhancement.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2010 11:40PM by corboy.
Re: Compassionate Communication
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: March 20, 2010 11:48PM
Note, I only had time to see the first 5 to 6 pages of reviews for the Rosenberg book. Other researchers need to look for references to The Work or Work (capital letter) in addition to 'Byron Katie' when reading the rest of the 143 reviews.
I want to make clear that this does not mean that all NVC practitioners and teachers are involved with Byron Katies methodology. But among those practicing it there are some areas like two circles in a Venn diagram, where there is a small but interesting
thin overlap.
Whether this overlap stays small or gets larger, time will tell. But if a commitment to NVC does entail any risk that one might disable or blunt ones abilities to set boundaries in relation to anyone who is an aggressive, and goal oriented salesperson and does not tell you this, straight up, and candidly---hmmm.
This is strictly my laymans opinion and a plea for some thoughtful consciousness raising.
And more research.
I want to make clear that this does not mean that all NVC practitioners and teachers are involved with Byron Katies methodology. But among those practicing it there are some areas like two circles in a Venn diagram, where there is a small but interesting
thin overlap.
Whether this overlap stays small or gets larger, time will tell. But if a commitment to NVC does entail any risk that one might disable or blunt ones abilities to set boundaries in relation to anyone who is an aggressive, and goal oriented salesperson and does not tell you this, straight up, and candidly---hmmm.
This is strictly my laymans opinion and a plea for some thoughtful consciousness raising.
And more research.
Re: Compassionate Communication
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 17, 2018 01:07AM
An earlier brief discussion of Non Violent Communication (NVC)
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Re: Compassionate Communication
Posted by:
NomeBee
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Date: January 13, 2023 04:18PM
NVC (nonviolent communication) is sometimes marketed as Compassionate communication, as others have noted. Here’s my experience, I hope it helps: [medium.com]
If you’re in a hurry and researching whether nvc (nonviolent communication, sometimes called compassionate communication) is a cult, here are the top three red flags that I experienced:
1. The best selling book doesn’t mention the spiritual agenda, so you can get drawn in with something benign and non religious.
2. It’s centred on a charismatic guru (even beyond the grave) whose history doesn’t appear to be fully told for the safety of people who might be in NVC-based relationships today.
3. There’s a risk of entanglement in trauma bonds and undue influence due to sharing personal information in groups or one-on-one.
If you’re in a hurry and researching whether nvc (nonviolent communication, sometimes called compassionate communication) is a cult, here are the top three red flags that I experienced:
1. The best selling book doesn’t mention the spiritual agenda, so you can get drawn in with something benign and non religious.
2. It’s centred on a charismatic guru (even beyond the grave) whose history doesn’t appear to be fully told for the safety of people who might be in NVC-based relationships today.
3. There’s a risk of entanglement in trauma bonds and undue influence due to sharing personal information in groups or one-on-one.
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