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Posted by: hsuchij ()
Date: December 28, 2004 11:45AM

I found this website when I was reading a book called "Bad Therapy - Master Therapists Share Their Worst Failures".

[www.psychotherapynetworker.org]

The title of the article is called "Discovering the core within our multiplicity". It is essentially the same way of saying that people can have multiple souls instead of just one. Inside the article, one may find how transformation can be achieved.

This doctor heals patients by talking to their organs or other parts of personalities. It is not surprising that he also runs a Self-Leadership Intensive workshop. By analogy, one should find how LGATs’ participants can be so attached to leaders after workshops.

Without knowing methods of healing, our personalities are separated by purpose and our emotions are aroused by design. Without seeing real intends of the workshop, our inner secrets have been perpetrated. Without thinking about our protections, we exposed our fears, boundaries, and weaknesses.

I experience different crazy impulses after I left the group called "Potential of Psychology" eight months ago and I try very hard to understand how those impulses were created by the group.

If one stays in LGAT, one's created "multiplicity" is always monitored and controlled through the use of manipulation techniques. Whenever one leaves the group or breaks bonding, the group then terrified the runaway with dreadful feelings of anxieties. This is why LGATs are so dangerous. It works because it works on those parts of you that they manufactured.

Here is the word “manufacture” means in a dictionary:
1 : to make into a product suitable for use
2 a : to make from raw materials by hand or by machinery b : to produce according to an organized plan and with division of labor
3 : INVENT, FABRICATE
4 : to produce as if by manufacturing : CREATE <writers who manufacture stories for television>


Hsuchi

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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: December 28, 2004 12:18PM

when i took the forum on guest night jinn asked the
grads to stand up and they did alright. they were wanted
world peace. i cant imagine people , the guests actually
hearing all this world peace stuff sticking around to sign
up but im sure some did.

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Posted by: Cousin2004 ()
Date: December 29, 2004 11:27AM

sonnie-dee: The sheer hypocrisy of Rosenberg's money-mongering statement versus what LEC purports to be (world peace, personal breakthroughs) is disgusting. Wondering what you know about Landmark's Sweden or Netherlands office that was shut down by the government... or that they wanted to open programs in these countries and were denied....

I vaguely remember hearing something about this but can't find any info.

If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.

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Posted by: sonnie_dee ()
Date: December 30, 2004 04:32AM

Cousin,

Unfortunately I dont know much about the sweedish office being shut down. Other then I believe it just wasn't making enough money to cover itself. If an office is not making enough money generally it will be closed unless they want the office there for a political or special reason.

I know that the office I used to work in was being kept open despite running at a loss simply because of its placement and the fact that they wanted New Zealand to be the first "transformed country" given that the size of NZ meant to Landmark it was entirely possible.

The netherlands (amsterdam primarily) is still open and running as far as I know.

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Posted by: elena ()
Date: December 30, 2004 05:19AM

Here's a post from alt.fan.landmark regarding the above. You can search "Sweden" within the group for more details.

Ellen




From: lxxxxxxxx...@hotmail.com (Petezed)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.landmark
Subject: Landmark attack on major daily in Sweden
Date: 18 Aug 2002 02:19:01 -0700


I'd like to report about a major attack by LEC on a leading daily
newspaper in Sweden.

In early June the Swedish national daily "Dagens Nyheter", a
broadsheet with a circulation of some 380000 copies, published a
series of articles about LEC and abuse of LEC clients. The articles
were publíshed over three consecutive days and included interviews
with LEC supporters and staff.

Ahead of the publication the staff writer received a number of
threatening and abusive phone calls from LEC press officer Mark Kamin.
The standard LEC press package of some 150 pages of documentation was
sent to the paper, headed by a letter with threatening wording from an
LEC attorney.

The main article in the series was an interview with "Eva", a 35 year
old Forum graduate who had experienced a reactive psychosis
immediately following a Forum course. She had made a suicide attempt
and was taken into psychiatric ward for ten days, and was subsequently
on sick leave for nine months. The series also included interviews
with leading psychologists, psychoanalysts, cult experts and Church of
Sweden priests who issued strong warnings against LEC and Forum.

The LEC response was to demand publication of a wordy "correction",
which was denied by the paper. This was followed by a complaint to the
national press ombudsman, which was rejected by the ombudsman within
days of reception. A new complaint was sent to the national press
council, which is yet to be decided, but is expected to be rejected as
well. Swedish law has strong protective mechanisms for free media and
LEC has no possibility of bringing the paper to court.

The staff reporter who wrote the articles has further informed me that
he received some 150 e-mail, letters and phone calls following the
series. The major part agreed with the negative conclusions of the
series. There were several reports of destroyed families after one
member had been absorbed by the cult and there was one reported
suicide following contact with LEC. Many of the communications
reported about serious personal disturbances following participation
in the Forum course. Letter writers who supported Landmark were very
aggressive and a small number (<10) cancelled subscriptions to the
paper.

The newspaper reporter says that he does not feel intimidated by the
attacks by Landmark and that he is now planning a new series of
articles about the LEC affiliated aid scam "The Hunger Project".

Following the series LEC seems to be in deep trouble in Sweden and has
had problems getting clients for two Forum courses in August and
October. An offer of doing the Forum practically for free has been
sent to Forum graduates, urging them to sign up friends and relatives.
The letter sent out by LEC contains highly slanderous wording about
the newspaper journalist and he is now considering legal action
against LEC.

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Posted by: glam ()
Date: December 30, 2004 05:46AM

Any news about whatever transpired?

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Posted by: sonnie_dee ()
Date: December 31, 2004 08:07PM

It would be interesting to get a copy of the articles that was translated so that we could read it.

I do know that when New Zealand had a lot of press coverage the people pulled out of courses like flys and I took most of the flack from the higher ups. "I was not causing their participation" or "I was not being the possibility of them fulfilling on their committments"

There was a lot of phone calls with all the staff in NZ and regional managers and legal counsel about how to respond, what to say. We were pretty much spoon fed any thing we were allowed to say to participants. We were banned from talking to the press directly. If the press wanted information or quotes they had to work through the media department in world head quarters (San Fransisco)

It is interesting to re-read some of the articles now and wonder why I perhaps didn't see the negitives that are there in black and white and also to see the "landmark" answers to questions in one artical by a graduate who was raving about his participation.

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