bakkagirl wrote:

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I think NXIVM also built violent pornography into some of its programs. Agree with your idea that these groups degrade sex, and sexually degrade members as part of a transformation process, aka brainwashing.

An entity named One Taste, Nicole Daedone as its longtime CEO is now very much
in the news. Would be interesting to learn if any persons in it turn out to have
ties to the groups we are researching.

Read the article recently published in Bloomberg. One Taste has raised desensitization to new heights or depths, depending on one's perspective.

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I just read corboy's link. The "sexual meditation" described was exactly the same as someone had described to me years ago in relation to some est group.

I note the One Taste posts go back years in the forum, just like NXIVM. Do you think these cults have a tragectory...just get crazier and crazier, or, do they just finally 'get caught'?

I think they finally get caught. Remember the woman who finally reported NXIVM, she said that certain people were picked for the worst abuse, and these were probably women who the DOS thought they could control. Many of the others, who were NOT picked for the abuse by the DOS subgroup were probably blissfully unaware of what was going on. They would probably give glowing reviews about the organization.

Just think of how many were subjected to the abuse before someone finally had the nerve to come forward. Like Keith Raniere is reported to have done, the participants being abused are probably threatened, although the threats may be thinly veiled. I think they wait until they have collected embarrassing information on people, (remember all that "sharing." It seems to occur in most of these groups), before abusing them, and like NXIVM, they use that as "collateral." Someone has to decide to risk it anyway, in order for the information to come out. That is the only way they will be stopped.

I think another thing that prevents people from speaking out/leaving, might be the level of entanglement. Reading the article brought this up. People can end up owing people money, and then don't want to say anything bad about the organization. Then there is the "non-disclosure" agreement. That's a tough one to break, but it's necessary when the organization is committing crimes.

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I hope this is the case, kdag.

Years ago, I read a book by Martin Amis called, "The Information". That title, at least, kinda resonates with me, now.

In thinking about my so-called field in terms of "The Information", I note it seems to only go one-way.

Many coach training programs seem to start with LGAT exercises that have people disclosing to strangers, and their 'trainers' the most intimate details of their lives.

As for the work that gets done, the client work, reports on individuals are filed with mysterious third parties. One never knows what happens with "The Information".

If there are issues with clients, or coaches they are handled in unilateral fashion, with lot's of "The Information" disclosed.

Tips, techniques, technologies come down from 'on high', with no feedback ever requested.

So, one could look at the executive coaching field as one big "collateral" gathering enterprise.

I am NOT KIDDING!!!