Hi.
No, they don't ever take any responsibility whatsoever for the harm they do to people.
As a matter of fact, they deliberately deny ALL responsibility for anything that goes wrong.
For example, as an experiment to find out what is really going on, a person who did experience a psychosis from this type of LGAT seminar, could attempt to inform those who run the LGAT on their public message board or in email to the company.
What will happen?
The email will be ignored, and be kept on file in for "future reference" in case they need to use it against the person in the future.
The message board post, probably would not be posted, or they will try to to play mindgames with it.
All of these LGAT seminars have these terrible types of side-effects for some people, and they just don't care. They know it happens, but they are making millions in a weekend.
They probably rationalize it in their minds somehow, blaming the victim, etc.
But in reality, its the typical stance of the Narcissist seminar leader, who only cares about themselves. (even though they may advertise the opposite).
Many people have manic and hypomanic episodes at these seminars. They WANT people to go into that manic mental state, which is why they keep pushing people into those high-energy states 18 hrs a day, while not sleeping and not eating, while being so physically active, jumping around, yelling, etc.
Why?
Because when people go "hypomanic" they will buy everything. They will spend thousands for coaching contracts on the spot. They will sign up for the entire string of seminars, that you can't get a refund from, etc.
The reality of these seminars is very ugly and very harsh, and it does not match the marketing about saving the world. Sometimes people have to find this out the hard way, as so many people won't listen to the warnings about these seminars, as they believe the marketing, until its too late.
Its profoundly wrong and even evil, what they do to "regular people" at these seminars. The seminar attended is one of the most advanced in the world, and the average person without training, has no idea of what is being done to them. If they "play full out" they are literally risking everything.
People trained in the advanced methods used by these LGAT seminar leaders, will sit near the back, and very carefully analyze everything being done to people at the seminar, and remain as detached as possible. As they work on many levels at once.
Its the regular everyday folks who don't have training in these areas, who go up to the front of the room, and "play full out", and many of them do flip-out and get hysterical, in one way or another. Some go hypomanic, and buy everything that is for sale, which is why they have been pushed into that hysterical mental state by the seminar leader.
But others are pushed right over the edge.
They are collateral damage, but only for the greater good of the bank accounts of the seminar owners and promoters.
Be very careful of going to these same seminar people with the negative results, as they will try to encourage the victim to go to MORE seminars, believe it.
What is the ultimate insight, at the end of all of the seminars sold in this area?
Many people who have gone through all the seminars have said what it is. The supreme insight is that if you have the right techniques, you can sell anyone anything, for any price.
People learn at the end of all these seminars, that they have been sold an illusion for more than 50K. (any actual info in the seminars can be aquired from a few books).
The professional salespeople who attend these seminars usually "get it" and then go and try to use the techniques on others.
But the shocking insight at the end of the seminar rainbow is that the person has been sold an illusion.
The seminar leader probably tries to massage his conscience by telling himself that he is teaching people how not to get scammed in society, by teaching them a lesson in getting scammed they will never forget.
But that is the insight that many pay 50K-100K to learn.
Werner Erhard did the same thing, at the end of his seminars, you learn its all about "nothing".
You see, these professional salespeople found it easier to sell "nothing" than to sell "something".
They are selling complete illusions.
Tony Robbins is explained a bit in the book SHAM, which libraries should have.
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I have to ask the question - do these groups ever take responsibility for people like us? Antony Robbins markets himself as such an ethical man, and I can't see that turning someone's life into such a mess is ethical. I guess I have a lot more reading to do, as I can't understand how anyone could run events that have such bad side effects? Or are we simply collateral damage for 'the greater good'. I know people have predispositions to certain conditions - maybe I might be predisposed to psychosis. But this was the first time, and it was almost certainly brought on by the event, including the enforced sleep and food deprivation over the 6 days leading up to it. Hmmmm.
Thanks again, and thanks Ellen too for your post
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