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I knew I hadn't gotten through because the reply started with this phrase:

None of what you say is wrong nor is any of it true, it is what it is and I chose to make it what I want.

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Alex_Rush
I'm suggesting that a better understanding of his perspective will allow you to communicate better with him, and to do that, you need to understand view of people who like Landmark (not fanatics, but just like it). That's about it.

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A good friend of mine who I tried for a few years to recruit ended up in the lgat, on someone else's dime (my sister's). I met him at the airport upon his return, very curious to see what he thought, because he was stubborn and skeptical too and had had NO interest when I had tried recruiting him. I was [i:cf4f202354]astounded[/i:cf4f202354] that he LOVED the "course". I marvelled at the ability of the lgat to capture someone like [i:cf4f202354]him[/i:cf4f202354], yet I was also confident that it could be done, if ONLY he'd go through it. I knew there was some special "power" in that lgat and I wish that would have been a red flag for me. Now I know: the power of psychological manipulation.

And, no surprise, he became even more of an asshole-narcissist; he was one already but the lgat made him much, much worse. UGH.

skeptic

That's sad! How long have you been out? Is it hard, is your sister still involved?

The guy I know went through that bigger asshole phase, but now he seems depressed, but not how I'd normally think of depression, more like empty but functioning as far as working, etc. He's become secretive and business-like, but once in a while we see a little bit of the old him. I'm hoping that eventually he'll be able to talk about it like some of the people here. If only to acknowledge that he was harmed and it wasn't his fault.

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I'm suggesting that a better understanding of his perspective will allow you to communicate better with him, and to do that, you need to understand view of people who like Landmark (not fanatics, but just like it). That's about it.

Communicate with a brainwashed, soul-bleached Lekkie? Easier to try and talk to 2 and 3 year old children! In fact, an advocate of Landmark (applies to most LGATs) is much like a toddler with his/her mind set on something. Believe me, I've tried warning potential victims and I've tried to talk to them after their indoctrination. I don't have enough hairs left on head to pull in frustration! And I'm not suggesting to them anymore than 'look at the body of evidence'. Doesn't it bother you? Why don't you ask your 'coach' about this ands that!

Blank. Frown. And then a change of subject!

They're in too deep and can't even see my mouth moving!

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Re ellen's post, damn, it sickens me now to remember all the implanted nonsensical, but cool-sounding I thought, new-age/lgat jargon I loaded my language with, for years! I am still purging those words. I have to intentionally substitute and avoid using them. I HATE THEM. They are so phoney, haughty and sickening.

Yes, they ruined some perfectly good words.

Any others you can think of that are particularly pesky?


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I've been out over five years. My sister says that she is out, and I don't think she attends any more "courses" or social functions but she still seems "programmed" to me. I still can't relate to her. In fact when I'm around her, I feel kind of sick. Some horrible things happened between us after she went through the lgat and I don't know how to overcome the damage. I'm in a big stalemate regarding her.

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p.s. I hate lgats with a PASSION!!!!!!!

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Have you seen the documentary called "Language Does Not Lie?" It's often on Sundance Channel and is about how the Nazis changed language for programming. It's very interesting because they started by taking words used for mechancial functions and changed them to organic/human function.