Klemmer and Associates
Posted by: Next to Klemmer ()
Date: July 02, 2008 02:56AM

My brother is second in command there and I can tell you that his biography as posted on the Klemmer "leaders" board is 100% crap. He has no degree from SLO only some time in there. Never completed. The only business that he has ever owned that was successfull is one my mom and dad bought for him. A worm (fish bait) route in Oroville, Ca. which was already successfull. He has been involved in other businesses a few I will list: TMF: a completely bankrupt construction company he started and embezzled tens of thousands of dollars from family and friends and has never repaid. SOS another failed construction company he ran fraudulently under my contractors license without my permission while my first wife was dying of cancer. The Oak store in Atascadero, Ca. where he also went bankrupt as well as a second oak store in Santa Maria, Ca. where he also went bankrupt. He has never been successfull until he started this cult with former PSI mainstream speaker Brian Klemmer. He also had a failed motorcycle shop in Atascadero, Ca. years ago. At no time has he ever been successfull without taking other peoples money. One time he went around selling a mock-up of a product that was never real and sold some $250000 worth of this gadget that never was. I thought it was hilarious. Then he sold "hospital beds" to infirmed old women. He and I used to sit out behind the office of TMF drinking coronas and talking about starting a religion based on money. I thought we were joking.
I don't know Klemmer personally but if my brother is his buddy and business partner people grab and hold onto your wallets. You are about to get screwed.

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Re: Klemmer and Associates
Posted by: Next to Klemmer ()
Date: July 03, 2008 06:21AM

Oh,
And did I mention that he and I were both preachers?
Oh,
And does it say 3 kids? Sorry only one biological child.
Any other information anyone needs about Klemmer's #2 guy let me know. I'll be happy to help you out.

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Re: Klemmer and Associates
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: July 03, 2008 07:35AM

Next to Kemmer:

Please don't attempt to turn this thread into a personal family discussion.

This thread should focus on whatever concerns there are about Klemmer, and not personal matters.

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Re: Klemmer and Associates
Posted by: Next to Klemmer ()
Date: July 03, 2008 08:32AM

Sorry RRmoderator.
Just clarifying the untruths put forth on the Klemmer leaders board from personal knowledge.
And these are concerns about Klemmer and family. The #2 guy there is slime and I know it. Just because I'm his family shouldn't discount my perspective, in fact it should be quite the opposite.

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Re: Klemmer and Associates
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: July 03, 2008 08:26PM

Next to Klemmer:

Please focus on those issues and facts that are directly relevant to the topic of this thread.

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Re: Klemmer and Associates
Posted by: Next to Klemmer ()
Date: July 25, 2008 09:27PM

The leader board at the Klemmer website has been updated and is nearly the truth now. All except the 3 kids and the successfull businesses. The part about Steve's degree is gone as he never had one.
RR moderator, I have a question, didn't I start this thread? If so Didn't I call the topic "Klemmer and Associates"?
If not I apologize and will start a different thread. Thank you.

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Re: Klemmer and Associates Champions Workshop
Posted by: Truth2Myth ()
Date: November 09, 2017 02:29AM

Here is how a LGAT like Klemmer and Associates,PSI Seminars spread and takes advantage of their paying clients !!Remember you are a client not their employee!!

Towards the end of the LGAT class like Personal Mastery or Advanced Leadership from Klemmer, you are likely to feel euphoric. Likely to feel indebted to "klemmer" or the "facilitator" for opening your eyes and your awareness level is high and feel connected to other members of the class.

You will be invited to spread your new found "leadership" role and be "Bold" to advance the Klemmer mission ..and a world that works with no one left out or whatever...thats the "pitch" for you to participate. Don't fall for it. They do this with every class, with everyone that Facilitator has a connection with..its the facilitator's role and job to do this.

You will be asked by the facilitator to demonstrate "Samurai Leadership", by hosting "Champion's Workshops for Klemmer, you are promosied/invited to be personally coached by the facilitator you may feel indebted to...and you spend a LOT of time and energy building a Champion's workshop in exchange for a discount to say, Advanced Leadership or other classes for your family. You have an opportunity to "make a difference", demonstrate leadership" blah blah..and you end up making calls to your friends and families...running around and losing focus..

That is how you help LGATs spread - Word of mouth - friends, families, co-workers!

Pretty soon you will be running around with your mouth asking your friends and families...: - " Are you happy with where you are in life?
Don't you want more and different?

those types of conversations subtly imply - they are not happy, dissatisfied, not good enough, not dreaming big...who are you to decide that for them????? ITs a deficient model of conversation - and Klemmer uses it a LOT! Why would you want to communicate with a subtle" Not enough" to your friends and loved ones?

Think - focus - get on with your life. Don't get sucked into more classes or group think and group identity with being a "Compassionate Samurai".

Lots of achievers all over the world have NEVER heard of Klemmer and associates and their lives are GREAT!!

Klemmer and Associates has plenty of money, they claim to know how to "enroll" ,"sell, cause people to take positive action. Let KLEMMER market their own seminars with their own time and money. Thats their business. Let Klemmer's staff build Champion's workshops.

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