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I just found out that someone involved with my ex-husband and his PSI group(s) committed suicide on June 1st. Claimed she "has her demons as many of us do." This woman killed herself after finding out she was scammed out of all her money, has nothing, and I mean Nothing!!! to show for it. She left behind a daughter and they're asking for donations for her benefit. This crap causes people to commit suicide.

I hope the PSI people reading this are happy. I'm sure they'll say this woman didn't take responsibility for herself.

I wish her daughter well.

X, I am so sorry this happened to you. My husband became involved with a different LGAT (thankfully not as effective as PSI) and I understand the shock of seeing someone change so drastically.

I wonder, has the deceased woman's estate has considered a lawsuit? I have read that PSI has settled at least one lawsuit and wasn't there recently another LGAT that reached a settlement for wrongful death? If there is a good case, a lawsuit could provide money for her daughter and help expose, and hold PSI accountable.

As for the question about a lawsuit I really don't know. I remember meeting this woman when I had to drop off my husband for one of his PLD coffee meetings and was introduced to her. She seems to be a nice lady, but somewhat loopy to me. I just feel sorry for her daughter.

I took these email/posts off another Yahoo group for a PSI Women's Leadership Class (99). They "Graduated" in June 2008 and their already having problems. See the emails below.


Hi Everyone-
I first want to start by saying Thank you to Mxxxxxx and Cxxxxx for
coming over last night. It was great to catch up. We really had a
nice time.
However, out of the ten people that rsvp'd to come over only 2
showed up. Now a couple of months ago that would have really hurt my
feelings. I would have made up a story about it that so and so didn't
like me or whatever. Mxxx Axxxx taught me different. What is
absolutely shocking is that only a couple of people even bothered to
call and tell me. Jxxxx Jxxxx said she might not be able to come
and never called back to tell me she wasn't and Kxxxx Mxxx called
right at the time the party was supposed to start. Lxxxx Axxxx told
me she was definitely coming and that she would be bringing a fruit
salad. So good I didn't need it or wasn't depending on it! Lxxxxxxx
said she was coming to Lxxxx but she too never bothered to call and
let me know that she wasn't going to be able to come. Sxxxx Hxxxxx
spoke with me and got directions the day before or so, confirmed with
Mxxxx that day and then never bothered to come. Lxx Pxxxx said she
was going to come and she too never called me back. Kxxxx Cxxxx – I
am totally amazed at you. I chose this date mainly because of your
schedule. I called you twice to confirm. You said it was good and
then you never even bothered to call and tell me you weren't coming. WOW!
Not that good. It is rude and inconsiderate to treat people this
way and I am wondering how this is showing up in your lives?
I planned and bought food for ten people…and no one even worried
about just letting me know that they weren't coming, another day would
be better or that it just wasn't of interest. Many other options were
possible.
The only way you know you love yourself, or anyone else, is by the
contracts (ie. Commitments) you are willing to make and keep!
I am writing this email to be honest and tell you that your actions
affect people. What you say your going to do and what you do about it
– matter. The energy you are putting out about yourself is FLAKEY.
Sorry to start the day with such a negative email. I hope it is
taken positively so that you can shift in your life and take your WORD
more seriously.
Kxxxxxx

www.ranchsisters.com


Txxxx wrote:
I didn't see her writing that as revenge...merely a share when each
one of us writes stuff on the yahoo groups as to what is going on in
our lives I can bet you there is somebody else out there dealing with
the same issue for we are all connected! That is why I don't hold back
what I share or find out about myself I mean I've been in my shit for
the past couple days and see what has come of it... I created the
t-shirt presale and started the Dixieland yahoo group to build the
mastermind! Just a few more steps towards what I want... and in
sharing those things with all of you I hope that all of you can apply
it to your lives as well! Who knows what can happen by just saying
this is how I feel! And this is what I created because of it!
Everything is exactly perfect just as it is! And in my position it is
hard to say and believe sometimes... but really it is just that...
Perfect!
Love
TXXXX
xoxoxo

Hi Kxxxxxxx and the rest of you WLS ladies!
I read this when it came through from Kxxxx....I am not sure what to
feel about it. I do want to give input as I know it is helpful to ME
to give and receive other perspectives. It is the reason I wanted to
have this group more than anything. When I get called on my STUFF, it
helps me with other relationships in my life. Kxxxx having the
courage to do that...is highly valued by me. Support doesn't always
come wrapped in a neat little package and MAKE me feel good. (I
know...I have to make myself feel good).

Accountability is crucial to support each other with our word and
deed. I am not sure it is as powerful sending an email as it would be
to pick up the phone and say...hey, we missed you, is everything okay?
I do think in this group that is used to sharing our stuff...it could
be a way to support and hold accountable the behaviors of sisters that
are connected more deeply because of our experiences on the ranch.

It is sort of like the story where the business man is on the bus
reading his Wall Street Journal and the man with kids gets on the bus
and starts disrupting the business man. The kids are throwing a ball
and yelling and running all over the bus. The business man gets quite
annoyed at the man because he just sits there like a bump on a log and
the kids are tearing the bus apart.

Finally the business man is so upset he taps the guy on his shoulder
and says..."Buddy, can you do something with your kids?"

The man turns to him and says, "I know I should. We just left the
hospital and they all saw their momma, for the last time. She has been
quite ill for a long time. I went in last and as I sat with her she
took her last breaths. I haven't told them yet and I am not sure how.
I simply don't have the energy to take away their fun at this moment."
The business man had a new and different perspective. He went from
annoyance to compassion. Just like that!

Kxxxxxx certainly has a good point about keeping your word. I don't
see it as a judgment; I DO see it as accountability to do what was
agreed to.

What I haven't seen is anyone step up and acknowledge that they indeed
gave their word and then didn't live up to what THEY said they would do.

I don't think I would have sent a public email, although I pass no
judgment on that either. I admit I haven't read through all of the
posts so perhaps some of the ladies did respond and acknowledge the
fact that they did not keep their word. I did see that Sxxxx
unsubscribed. It may or may not be related. I hope NOT as running away
from a conflict or confrontation may not serve her in the long run in
other areas of her life. Again, this is not a judgment, simply another
perspective that maybe wasn't considered. And like Kxxxxx said, what
better place to mess up than with your sisters?

How did this situation support me?

I have a challenge with over committing my time. Sometimes I commit to
things I don't really want to do and then they are not real high on my
priority list and my results soon expose that fact. So thank you for
the reminder that this could very well be me that didn't prioritize
and then simply forgot. It helped me Kxxxxxx, that you shared to the
group. Thank you.

My challenge to you Kxxxxxx, would be to call each and every woman
that committed and talk it out with them. You might not feel it is
your place, it doesn't matter if you feel it is your place or not. It
is your choice, of course. You can do it...or NOT. I have been
practicing giving people the opportunity to share their perspective
with me...without judgment to see if I can see where they are coming
from....I don't have to agree or disagree. I can choose to befriend
them or not, depending on what I am okay with in my life.

My challenge to the ladies that didn't show and didn't keep their word
would be to call Kxxxxxx before she calls you. Don't offer excuses...I
am sure things came up. Simply evaluate your word and how strong it
is...and use this as a benchmark for other areas in your life that may
or may not be working.

As for hurt feelings. We have all learned that we are in the driver’s
seat of our feelings based on how we process the situation. No one can
hurt our feelings without our permission. Remember from your
leadership cards out of Path to Liberty...one of the qualities of a
leader is self-control and control over emotions. I think taking a
stand as to what expectations are is the noble thing to do and holding
people accountable. This is what Kxxxxxxx did and I am proud of her for
that.

Does this make sense to anyone? Am I communicating clearly? Any other
perspectives?

Warm Regards,
Mxxxxx SXXXXXX

My Kxxxxxx,
Really? Your feelings weren't hurt by this? Wow. I hope that's
true. I know that for me, had I had that experience, my feelings
would've been hurt. So my thoughts were similar to Txxxxx's, in that I
projected what I thought I'd feel in that situation. Reading between
the lines of your email, I saw hurt and anger and...(Resentment which
turns into) revenge in putting people's names out there. I guess it's
a BTLTXT moment for me, as I know I am putting words in your mouth to
say you were angry/hurt and taking revenge via your email.
Ok, so I definitely reacted to your email. Part of me totally gets
the making others accountable for their actions (or inaction) part.
However, is it my/your job to make them anything? By emailing all of
us, and not individuals? By telling the whole story to the group? I
guess that's were the revenge part comes into my interpretation. Why
does the whole group need to hear all of this? Why is it any of our
business? I know, from personal experience (as at times I give my
word and don't keep it) that just because we do this work, it doesn't
mean we always keep our word. No one does. What is different about us
hopefully is that we notice when we don't keep our word, and hopefully
work on being more accountable.
I guess I take issue with labeling people ("FLAKEY...rude &
inconsiderate" for example) and making up stories about them. I don't
know what happened to/with those eight women. I hope all of them are
fine and that something wonderful kept them from attending, rather
than something disastrous. I don't know, and my point is, neither do
you.
You put a ton of work and effort and love into making the evening
happen, and I was thinking of you ladies last night as I went about my
life, wishing I had the liberty to fly in for the party. I envisioned
a bunch of LS grads getting together, lounging by the pool and getting
to know each other in a fun/unstructured/casual way. That's the story
I made up about last night! It's always disappointing when things
don't go according to plan, yet it's also a huge learning experience.
What have you learned, My Kxxxxxx?
Your point is well taken, in that we impact those around us. All
the time, every action we take, every decision we make no matter how
small. It is up to us as to what kind of impact we choose to have.
Your email had its own impact, didn't it?
By the way Txxx, one thing you wrote totally struck a chord in me,
that if I don't show up, no one will miss me as I am not all that
important. Wow. I totally rationalize things with that thought process.
So my sisters, as usual, this has given me much to think about, and
much to examine in my own life. When I don't show up for something,
who is impacted, and how? Similarly, when I organize something, and
there is not the turnout or result I expected, what is my part in
that? How did I help create the result I did get? What can I learn
from all this?
I love you, My Kxxxxxx! I'm glad the 3 of you had a great time last
night! For the ladies who didn't attend, I hope all is well and I
know they, as well as I, missed a great opportunity in Fallbrook!
Maybe next time there's a get-together in an exotic locale (Fallbrook
sounds pretty exotic as compared to Boulder, Colorado right now) I
will create the liberty to be there!!!
Love,
Sxxxx---

Kxxxxx Sxxx wrote:
Txxxxxx-
I mean what I said….I don't have my feelings hurt. There is a
difference between taking it personally and feeling resentful that I
put a lot of time and energy getting ready for this evening. We had a
great time and I am not one bit unhappy that I did it…I only called
names to show accountability for each person. We all have the power
to affect each other…and our actions speak much louder than words. I
just wanted to call it as it was.
So – not that scary. Pain is way tooooooooo huge of a word to use
for this.
I appreciate your time and thought to write to me. However,
sometimes we can read way too much into things….and I think that might
have happened here.
Kxxxxx

On Behalf Of Txxxx CXXXXX:
Dear sweet Kxxxxx-
This is a scary one to respond to.
It sounds like you actually are Very hurt, Kxxxxx. And your
feelings Are important. Too important to not express. Sometimes I find
that when I fire back at other people it gives me a new focus to
deflect how hurt I really am. If I strike back and hurt the offender,
the bringer of my pain, I place my pain back on them. But it also
keeps me from really "feeling" and having to acknowledge what's really
going on for me. In this case that 8 women, who you've established a
mutual bond of love and integrity with, let you feel that you weren't
important enough to warrant the kind of phone call you would have
hoped for. And for them, perhaps, that THEY were not counting
themselves as important enough to be actually missed!
And how false that is. We hold ourselves in such low regard. We
don't see... I often don't see my own value and impact as an
individual even to the people I love and that love me most. We are
each vital because there is no US without each individual stepping up
to the circle.
Stay connected with how you are feeling. Communicate the truth of
your feelings with love. We are all struggling to create the best life
we can...and struggling to even believe in ourselves that we can do
it; that we're worthy of it -often unaware that anyone would even
notice if we didn't.
Much love to Kxxxx, Cxxxx, Lxxxx, Axx, Lxx, Cxxxx, Mxxxxx,
Kxxxxxxxxx, Sxxxx and Jxxxx...and my 100 other sisters standing in
this circle with me.
Txxx
Txxxx Cxxx
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs,
even though checkered by failure...than to rank with those poor
spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a
gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt~

On Behalf Of Kxxxxx Sxxxx Sent:
Re: so I'm ready to bang my head on the wall now!

Txxxx,
It has been my experience that the harder you work, the luckier you get!
Mxxxxxx

Txxxx Mxxxx wrote:
Thanks for all of ya'lls loving words it really means alot to me! my
luck has got to be changing! It won't get any worse than this! I found
a four leaf clover in my yard this morning! I'm saying that it is my
money magnet! I guess from the greatest tragedy comes the greatest
ahah! It is really hard to live by the old fashion the women stays
with the kids and the man goes and makes the money! Especially me and
I feel that is what I've been struggling with I mean before I got
pregnant with nxxxxxxx. I worked two jobs and was going to school full
time! I didn't need a man for shit! I was making things happen! Sxxxx
really had to step up his game to keep up with me! Then two
pregnancy's on bed rest! I almost lost axxxx because I was working
double shift at cracker-barrel 8 months Prego...4 days in the hospital
after that episode! So yes I over do it at times! I always said my PLD
song would be "learn to be still"! And now it's raise your kids.....
you'll have time for dreams later :P
Love
Txxxxx
xoxoxo

So I'm ready to bang my head on the wall now!

Txxxxx Mxxxxx wrote:
*bang* *bang* *Bang* *bang* so yes it is not effective but at the
moment feels good! I'm spinning in circles figuring out all that is
going on in my head! It is so hard to be surround by so many people
who live in sacasity and not want to go there yourself... so I've
broken my foot not to long and not been able to work (have to climb
ladders and such for resets)... which I'll admit was probably a
product of my feeling stuckeness! The universe going 'ahah' so you
think you feel stuck 'OK' here’s a broke foot for you! :P damn it. Now
the suncare season is over and I'm looking for something else. I do
have a interview for an office manager position for a dance studio
which definitely helps one of my goals to start dancing again (Once
my foot heals of course) Sxxxx sits on his butt and does nothing....
so not only do I have to deal with my shit I have to deal with his
too. Which when he is in his just sits there frozen in fear I
guess. While I look every direction on how to keep everything together
with 3 kids that need to be fed and clothed and taken care of...
schools starting soon well at least for exxxx anyway. She needs school
supplies and such. And the power is about to get cut off. Hell when I
do get the job I don't even know how I gonna get the kids in
daycare... they don't have daycare assistance like they do out in the
west! And if talking from responsible WTF did I do or think or say to
create this? How do you find the balance with raising kids, your
marriage, yourself, and the thing bigger than yourself! I thought I had
it all figured out! I thought I had come up with the grand plan! A way
to make money for both the family and the vision and still be home to
teach my kids! And maybe it still is. It just hasn't happened yet my
chain is about to snap I don't know how much more I can take before I
have a nervous breakdown
LoveTxxxx xoxoxo

Hey Txxxxx,
First things first...BREATHE, BREATHE, BREATHE....
Ok, Ready...
You are not responsible for Sxxxx's shit! That's his poopie, not
yours. You can encourage him to shift out of it and if he chooses to
remain in it, then he's in it.
Reconnect yourself with what it is that you want. Yes, you're
surrounded by scarcity, AND its how you deal with it that will make
all the difference in the world. For all the scarce thoughts,
challenge yourself to flip it into the positive and create an abundant
thought.
YOU are in charge of your destiny. The Universe is a lot of fun to
play with, and based on my clarity...it really delivers. Maybe the
Universe is telling you, with a broken foot, to take a step back,
recharge, take care of YOURSELF, and slow down a little... instead of
"You want to be stuck, here's a broken foot to help facilitate that"
Remember, you can only give to others what you give to yourself.
This includes to your job, family, husband, and children!
Love ya
Kxxxx S.

more zombies have hit the street to spread the PSI bullSh*t...

Well folks a New team of PSI graduates hit the streets and this is what a couple of them had to say. I like the one where Cxxxxx stood her ground and yet fails to realize that people see the change in her, don’t like it, and when they offer her their opinion what does she do. She made a CHOICE.

In PSI7Team471@yahoogroups.com, Axxx Wxxxxxxxx
wrote:
Hey everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I miss you ALL sooo much. So I am taking this class at my college called "close relationships across lifespans" and everything they teach us is the same stuff I learned at 7 about relationships. It is so great, I already know it all! I just thought I'd let you guys know. It's a good reminder that everything they teach at 7 really is based off facts, so if you are having trouble getting someone to Basic tell them they can pay $500 for Basic or $23,000 for college to learn the same stuff!!

Love and miss my psi family,

To: PSI7Team471@...: [PSI7Team471] Had an explosive night!
So I a proud to tell u guys I stood my ground! I staffed this weekend in OC for the basic, which was absolutely amazing! On the way home from inner circle My Best friend called me upset and addressed that she did not like the new me. She said "you need to
get out of your positive little world u r in!" I felt hurt and disappointed. Then thankfully I remembered I had a choice. I told her I choose to live my life that way and she had the choice to do the same. Sadly to say she also said she no longer wanted to be my best
friend. When I got home my Husband told me that he agreed with her......My heart was broken! Then I thought as hard as I worked and as much money as I paid for PSI 7 to come back and buckle down. I told my husband u also have a choice get on the train or leave I am not going to compromise my happiness for someone who does not support my growth. He than told me I love you and I support u! After having had that happen I realized the power of choice...........POWER OF CHOICE! Remember to choose Growth and choose Happiness at all costs!! Cxxxx
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wow cxxxxxx that is crazy. I totally commend u on the way u r taking it with stride. I luv u and yes ull b busy anyway with ur psi friends and all the activities going on. U will have a bunch of whole new best friends. luv u superstar.

CRABS!!!!!!!!
Don’t let the crabs pull you down with them. Stay strong and stay your ground. All of the crabs are afraid of doing what all of us (I) are doing with our lives. I have been blessed to see all of you transform from the people that you were into the awesome, giving, trusting, trustworthy, high achieving, huggable, cuddly (that’s for you Peter!) leader of leaders that you ARE. Seeing your messages concerning how those around you are pulling you down has strengthened my belief in how we all need to stay connected and support each other. I am blessed with a great support system in Phoenix and am more than happy to give my support to any of you that need it. If you are feeling like you are in need please give me a call…seriously…don’t hesitate! I am here for every last one of you.
With love,
Gxxxxx Gxxxx

Yup a ZOMBIE

Hi Team 471,

I just started PLD this week and boy are my programs flaring up big
time. The roller coaster is going fast and its scary. But my
commitment is strong.

I wanted to say I was thinking of you guys. I haven't posted as my
focus has been on my PLD Goals. However (note no BCT's :-) you are in
my thoughts. Throwing a blanked of love and support to all of you.

Quick story - on my first PLD weekend in SF, I was talking to a
teammate and said, "I heard one coach challenged a player to say "I'm
excited" in Union Square ... I'm not going to have to do that ... am I?"
What resists persists.

The next morning during our team breakfast, I abruptly got out of my
seat (without telling my teammates what I was doing) walked to the
middle of Union Square, took a photo for some tourists, then proceeded
to jump and loudly proclaimed "I'm excited!" 3 times. That was me
getting to the top of the pole gain.

From Dive "My heart is racing, and my knees are weak as I walk to the
edge. I know there is no turning back once my feet have left the edge.
And in the rush, I hear a voice that's telling me to take a leap of
faith so HERE I GO!"

Hope you guys are diving into your desires.

-- Ron

"I AM an outrageous, vibrant, saucy man confidently blazing a trail of
greatness in my life NOW!."

More information on PSI. Can anyone tell me what BLP means?? Apparently PSI is laying on the tough sell to take as many classes as fast as possible.


LALS Grads, Attention LS Grads!

-- On Fri, 9/19/08, wrote:
From:
Subject: LALSGrads Attention LS Grads!
To:
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 7:02 PM
Vxxxxx::
I am willing to periodically donate 50% of the cost of the basic to a deaf student as long as there is already one deaf student enrolled. This way Fern's efforts are more concentrated. I am also willing to periodically donate $100.00 to Jxxx’s fund that will be named by another.

I am also interested in having a discussion within this yahoo group about making BLP's continuously a success no matter what the current L.A. PLD Team is capable of. Lately, I have noticed that a bigger effort seems to be going to the community service events which are always successful. Those events seem to get a lot of LS grad support as well and for some reason or another they never ever fail! Then what happens while the players are on the PLD home stretch and possibly on some level of overwhelm BLP is added on and from what I have seen lately, more often than not this event produces less than wonderful results. It is viewed as "failing forward" and that is fine as long as the lessons are learned. This is great for the players, though I believe the attendees who are in judgment receive a less than wonderful image of what PSI, the best path for personal growth is all about. Now, if unbeknownst to the PLD Team, LS grads support this event with the same vibration and bring guests to it who are ready to enroll, then the players can say what worked was the support out there and the lessons learned from what did not work can still benefit them, though the city's image is unblemished at the same time.

I am off to Principia on Saturday and I will not be on line at all until my return on the 29th, though I would like to receive some feed back on this topic, now.

Rxxxxx Exxxn

In a message dated 9/19/2008 11:43:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, XXXXX writes:

There is a player on LA PLD Team 26, Jxxx Wxxxxx, who is putting together a fund to help sponsor individuals who want to take the BASIC
and are not able to pay for all of it. Jxxx is looking for donations and particularly at least one person to donate $1000+ who will name the
fund whatever they chose. Please contact Jxxx Wxxxxxx if you are interested: or xxx-xxx-xxxx.

Thank you!

Vxxxxx


Rxxxxx,

Please contact Jxxx for anything relating to the fund! I will forward her what you sent.

I completely agree with you about the BLP. My team had a rough time with the BLP and I'm sure all teams whether large or small could use our support in bringing guests. Team 26's BLP is over although Team 27's is probably coming up at the end of October or beginning of November. I feel that a BLP is often the best way to reach out to someone who is on the fence about taking the basic.

Thank you for your input! See you at Principia!!

Love,
Vxxxxxx

Well people; PSI does it again. Another family going down the tubes for the almighty dollar. This was posted on another site today.

“PSI: The Homewrecker
First of all I would like to congradulate all of the emotionally uneven and financially distressed adults who took PSI and enjoyed it. Congrats, you're still not OK because you think paying someone to listen to them tell you how to be successful for four day.

I would just like to say that PSI may is 100% brainwash, and 0% helpful. My mom and her boyfriend have been involved with PSI for years and it is tearing our family apart. Now I'm not just talking about the people in my house, I literally mean all of my extended family.

There are five children in the house, one of which is disabled. I am teh oldest, 17, and am getting kicked out of my house because my mom is so obsessed with psi that she thinks I shouldn't be allowed to have my negative opinions on it.

The second oldest, my step-sister, is constantly guilted into going to PSI gatherings and parties. Finally she agreed to go to the basic..she left after two hours. There are three more, my 14 year old step-brother, my 12 year old step-brother, and the youngest, my little sister 11.

My parents are very seldom around. Why? Because they are at PSI. We are neglected to the point that we are forced to take care of each other, and many adults around me have suggested we call CPS. Thye haven't gone grocery shopping in almost three months. Sure were not starving, but thats because we have things around to eat like jelly, ranch, and barbeque sauce.

All my parents do is complain about our money situation, but all they do is spend thier money on PSI.

I don't think you people realize that they are in it FOR THE MONEY.

Hey PLD we want you guys to play a ***. Whoever sells the more "accept your greatness" PSI buttons wins the game!

Meaning" whoever makes the most money for us wins.

My grandmother had 20,000 dollars to her name fro retirement, and now it's PSI's.

My grandma was forced to live with us and I now sleep on the loveseat in the living room. Im nearly six feet tall, and have back problems. I don't even fit on the couch. Not a big deal but it still ***.

My extended family hates PSI for what it has done to my family and how my brothers and sisters and I are neglected how my grandmother has spent everything she has on psi.

My mom and step-dad often fight about psi too, causing them to a near divorce.

It is the only thing they talk about from when they wake up to when they go to sleep at night.

Thanks mom for spending $4650.00 to do psi7, because we haven't money for new toothbrushes in a year.”

again another example of PSI tools.

This was posted on a blog I just found.


"Hey everyone. I feel the need to get this out in the air so that none of you fall victim to this scam. This is a group called PSI. They host seminars which cost $480 for the “Basic” (first of a series). They try to sell you other seminars that cost upwards of $3500. They market these seminars as teaching you many useful tools like motivation, time management, letting go of your inhibitions, yada yada yada. Basically, for the “low cost” of the seminar, we will fix all your problems. I know someone who personally went through part of this and I am warning you, they use mild brainwashing techniques and are very demeaning. They get you locked into a state where you need to keep hearing these seminars in order to function. They can easily ruin your life be convincing you that you should get what you want now without having to work for it. Many people come out and buy houses they cant afford, max out their credit cards (or what is left after you have charged them for the cost of the seminar), and even break up with spouses and friends because their spouses are not taking the courses.

Please use extreme caution if any of your friends ask you to go to one of these. Make sure you look up some of the stories yourself if you are thinking of going. Type in “PSI Seminar” into Google and read for yourself."

I can relate to this. My wife left me after her return from PSI7