Klemmer and Associates
Date: June 01, 2007 04:24AM
Okay, here is a good example of technique used by Klemmer and all the rest of the LGAT's and what gets created experientially within their seminars.
Here is Klemmers techniques explained with a card trick.
This card trick will be hard to show you without needing to give trick away in explanation. The trick is in with some very dazzling sly of hand along with very subtlety manipulating, and controlling the outcome of answers to questions asked to leave the participant watching trick for first time with the impression that he chose his responses out of his free will. Which is far from the truth, and the clearly identified and defined answer that is being sought out by the card magician is looking for before any communications begin with performing the card trick.
This trick works only because of sly of hand, deception, manipulation, and twisting words, and answers to arrive at a specific place where participant is believing there was none of these tactics used on them. Actually the first time this card trick was done on me, I was amazed and dazzled. Then when I found out how card trick works by playing tricks on the participants mind. After I found out the secret to the trick, and have polished a really good technique of showing this card trick to people. I am amazed at how people are not able to understand how the trick works in their minds. I actually have had some people who I tried, and tried to explain the trick to them and they still did not understand it. Finally I would walk them through card trick holding the deck of cards up with bottom card facing them and walk through trick again. These people tend to be blown away at thinking they can get the card named at the end to be different than the bottom card.
Here is the card trick.
To set up the card trick you have a participant watch you shuffle cards numerous times, and you can even have them shuffle cards. All that is needed to be done for trick is to have the final part of shuffle be your knowing what card is on bottom of deck. What I use is both, with the last shuffle consisting of this maneuver. I cut deck with half in each hand. Right before I shuffle cards together. I make sure to see the bottom card of the part of deck in my right hand. When I shuffle cards together. Its done in a manner that the bottom card of my right hand is shuffled in a manner its on the bottom of deck. I then without handling deck in a manner that even remotely shows bottom of deck place in my back pants pocket without looking at deck in anyway as I am placing my pocket. I also at times pick a bystander and place deck of cards in their back pocket.
Okay that's the set up of card trick with a participant. Now comes the part of the trick that I am comparing to Klemmer & Associates and the rest of Large Group Awareness Programs operate and how they set us up by showing us how powerful our belief systems affect us. Then commence to exchange our core belief system with their own belief system. While doing it in a manner that leaves a person feeling like they arrived at this new belief system by their own choice. So Here is where this card trick and Klemmer & Associates and other LGAT'S operate in common.
Back to trick. When I do this trick on people. I have learned to really make it dazzling. I tell them that they are going to name a card, and I will pick it out of the deck in my pocket, or a bystanders pocket without looking. Are you ready? Usually the person is finding it hard to believe your going to do what is said.
I am not able to explain this trick without giving the trick away in explaining it though. Because this card trick you must experience to be fooled by the trick (Wow, this sounds familiar in what I am told about seminars going in). Seriously though, I must give you the trick up front without being able to do the card trick on you for you to experience being deceived, and manipulated without realizing it.
I will tell you the trick the same way that I have had to explain trick to some people who can't figure it out by having me show them the trick numerous times. I find this amazing that some people are unable to figure out trick after seeing it done 3 or 4 times in a row. They are still amazed at trick.
Then instead of just stating how trick works. This is what I do.
I do the set up the same, but this time instead of placing cards in my pocket or another's pocket. What I do is I hold up the deck of cards with the bottom of deck facing participant. For the sake of explanation. Lets say the bottom card is the number 5 of hearts.
Remember this is done initially without doing this part of having the bottom card being seen by the participant. Which in their mind the deck has been shuffled so much that the bottom card is an unknown to anyone.
I will perform a dialog here to show you how the communication goes during the trick. Remember: Bottom on deck has a 5 of hearts.
Me: okay, pick 2 of the four suites.
Participant: spades, and diamonds
Me: okay, what 2 did you not say?
Participant: clubs, and hearts.
Me: Pick one of those 2 suites.
Me: which one did you not say?
Me: pick 5 hearts that will be easy to remember.
Participant: 2, 4, 6, 8, 10
Me: okay, pick 5 more hearts that will be easy to remember.
Participant: Ace, King, Queen, Jack, 9
Me: Okay, pick 3 more that will be easy to remember.
Participant: 3, 5, 7
Me: Okay, pick 2 of those 3 hearts.
Me: Which one of those 3 did you not say?
Okay, so you chose 5 of hearts. I will find that card without looking. When I do it the first time, and not when I am trying to reveal the trick after trick is not gotten by the participant. I really add drama to it by making it appear that it is a tough card to find. I act like I am struggling feeling the card in my pocket, and delay it as long as needed for effect.
Then I act like it appears out of no where and pull it out to the amazement of the participants mind.
Believe it or not. Even when I show some participants this trick and even do it with them seeing the bottom card of the deck being held in front of their face. They don't understand how I was able to get them to end up saying that card in the end.
I then have to go into a very frustrating conversation of how I manipulated their mind to believe they where picking the card while the reality is that I picked it, and manipulated their mind by very slippery manipulation of communications with them.
This is how Klemmer & Associates, and all the rest of the LGAT's get participants hooked into buying into a philosphy, mindset, belief system, or whatever you want to call it.
I call it this. Klemmer & Associates had the 5 of hearts on the bottom the deck from the beginning of my enrolling in Klemmers seminars. After going through all 5 seminars that Klemmer holds. I have found the 5 of hearts philosphy also known as The Secret is a destructive philosphy for my life.
I see Klemmer & Associates the same as I see this someone performing this card trick.
A master at deception, mind control, and brainwashing.