Klemmer and Associates
Date: May 25, 2007 08:02PM
Klemmer & Associates doesn't have to address any negative accusations from former participants. Their participants take care of this dirty work and thus leaving Klemmer in a place as a company to wash hands of any negative fallout that occurs.
Like I said in several posts throughout this website about Klemmer & Associates. Brian Klemmer is a very smooth operator in keeping negative about his company from the public eye.
Here is a email reply to a fellow Klemmer Graduate of all their seminars. I went through levels 2 through 4 with this person. He sent me an email that was addressing my stand with exposing Klemmer to the public.
I posted links to Rick Ross Institute and I made strong declarations on the many forums that I was part of being from my being involved these past two years in Klemmer.
I will post what was sent to me if there is interest. But, what I wanted to post here was my reply to this person who was trying to get me to see the error of my ways and to come back into the Klemmer (LGAT) philosphy and mindset for my life.
Yuck, Yuck, Yuck. I will pass.
Here is my email relply that I sent back to him.
Re: look up and thoroughly read posts. Then we might have a talk...
Rick Ross Institute on the web. Look it up and read all the relational destruction from this Klemmer philosphy that is basically the same as the majority of LGAT's.
If you can read all of these posts and not hear the pain that this new age philosphy is doing in relationships in our society as a whole. Then you have been sucked in and are just as delusional as the ones refusing to see the pain of their behavior is creating with others as this philosphy is embraced by a person with alot of people in our society.
Rob, I want nothing to do with Klemmer as a company. They lost any and all credibility with me as they chose to operate without integrity, and consistency in how they handled my situation around how I was coached in Sam Camp, and my wife going through at a different time frame and was coached in a manner that opposed how I was coached. Plain and simple.
There was opposing coaching styles applied that took a already destructive marriage and pushed it over the edge. My coaching influence was to look at marriage with divorce as not an option, and Michele's coaching influence kept her in the mindset of a victim and why remain in a bad marriage. Totally opposite, opposing, and contradicting coaching influences to be applied in a already bad marriage.
Klemmer is not professionally licensed in psychiatric care, nor professional marriage therapists. Yet they choose to operate as such while having us sign legal waivers releasing them from any harm caused by this aspect. They state in waivers they are not, and then commence to be in seminars. THIS IS BULLCRAP...
Klemmer needs to be more accountable and responsible when dealing with marriages that are in conflict. I challenged them to take on a broader, and more responsible approach in future seminars. I confrontred them on this, and even sent Brian Klemmer an email on this matter. Klemmer is not even open to considering this aspect. This is plain and simple a lack of accountability, and a refusal to be responsible for how influential they are in peoples lives. Especially in marriages. Klemmer needs to take credit for all aspects that are created from seminars in peoples lives. Not just the credit for the good, but the bad as well.
Well, low and behold. All of my issues that I ran into in this regard has been consistently experienced by many, many, many others. Plus they have been ongoing for many years as you will note the many years this website has been in play. Look at the dates on these posts as you read them also.
This aspect is what is at the core of the many posts on Rick Ross Institute forum.
Look up the site, and read. Get your eyes off how Klemmer has helped you only. LOOK, LOOK, LOOK and read the overall relational harm and destruction from people choosing to be so self focused on creating self pleasure in their life.
Relationships are what makes this world, and this is exactly where the destruction is at in this garbage that is being dished out around some very good and useful tools that Klemmer is handing out.
I do not deny the tools as themselves in Klemmers seminars as being bad.
I am calling the context in which these tools as bad. Because of what it is producing overall in peoples relationships overall.
Cut the bullcrap attitude of fixing focus on me, or you. Look overall bud. Look
Not within the Klemmer bubble either. Look at the overall world aspect. Look at how overall in our society this mindset is having.
The Secret is taking a very valid principle and misusing it for selfish means and this is destroying our fabric of our society.
open your eyes, and look at the bigger picture.
I read this newsletter already. I still am sorting out what is good things for me to apply, and I am tossing out the garbage selfish mindset philosphy parts though.
You may choose to not contact me any further, and I am okay with that.
I will be participating in all that I can to expose Klemmer, and other LGAT's and the destruction they are creating in our society overall in the big picture of things.
I am not going to play small, and keep my eyes fixed just on me and how I have, or have not done whatever with these tools.
I am a world player, and I will take on my responsibility to expose this huge desception occuring.