Rs, I am very sorry to hear about the divorce papers, and everything that has happened to you with your wife and Klemmer.
Seems you're on the very bad end of this point from the article you quoted:
5. They sometimes foster inappropriate patterns of relationships.
To me it is part of their godly grandiosity, trying to control and manipulate any and all aspects of people's lives.
From Klemmers point of view. They are not accountable in anyway shape or form in what is created in their participants lives from applying their philosophy.
Unless of course it is a positive effect. Then they are all over taking the credit for it.
If my wife chose to apply Klemmers tools in a fashion that made our marriage work in a mutual manner. One where we did not control or manipulate each other.
I guarantee you would be reading a testimonie that gives full credit to Klemmer, and they would be using to promote, advertise, and sell seminars to new recruits. All you have to do is read the many testimonies that Klemmer uses to sell their seminars. It was the very aspects of the bad relationships getting supposedly worked out that hooked me.
I would not be surprised to dig into the peoples lives that gave these phenomenal results of Klemmers impact on their lives. Only problem is it is in the short run, as the emotional roller coaster is being ridden by these participants.
Well, when the rollercoaster ride stops, and hits the ground by being derailed by someone elses freedom of choice in a relationship. You won't hear these testimonies of how someone invested their all relationally and emotionally. Only to run into the other person choosing not to be relational and responsible relationally in creating a mutual relationship.
Relationship takes two people choosing to make it work. It only takes one to torpedo it, and cause it to fail.
My wife has chosen to not make it work after emotionally making a strong commitment to try and do so.
Klemmer supported me in pursuing a remarriage with her, and cheered me on in doing so.
Now Klemmer has flipped and has supported my wife in breaking her committment to professional marriage counseling, and have cheered her on in doing so.
What a farce. Klemmer is full of crap when it comes to what they say about relational aspects. They encourage narcissism, hedonism, and humanistic living.
If you are not open to this philosophy in your life. Klemmer will put you on the hidden pile heap of participants who have failed to embrace Klemmers life philosophy. They will whitewash the results by censoring these testimonies from being seen by potential participants.
Well, thank God for this sight. Rick Ross Institute is a formidable advocate of making people aware of the lies, and deceptions of Large Group Awareness Training Programs and their mind control, and brainwashing techniques used.
Please for the love of God. Dig, read, critically analyze the information out there. Before you move into a place of exposing yourself to companies like Klemmer and their messed philosophy for life.
Yes, it can produce what seems like unbelievable results in peoples lives.
But, at what cost? Read, read, read. You will see the high cost that is swept under the carpet relationally to accomplish these supposed amazing results.
Klemmer is not a company that operates with integrity. Especially within the context of relationships in turmoil needing professional counseling help to sort out the mess.
Klemmer chooses to operate as a company in this realm. Yes it seems to help some relationships. Yet in others it destroys them.
So Klemmer chooses to advertise how they can make relationships better. While what they are saying is roll the dice. If it works then we made it happen. If it fails it is you inability to apply our philosphy in the right way.
Either way, Klemmer is seen as the hero. Or the company just delivering tools and not accountable for how they get used within relationships.
What a Scam, and what a bunch of crap.