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Its simply to get a participant to say the card on the bottom of deck without being conscious of being manipulated by me to get them to say that card.

I have polished this to a fine art. People who have never seen the trick are always amazed.

It is only the critical thinkers that catch on fast. Even most of them have a hard time figuring it out fast.

Because they know they are being manipulated. They just can't put a finger on how I am doing it.

In time they figure it out, as I patiently work with them to understand the trick.

I don't show the trick with an intention of not revealing to participant how I manipulated them to do the trick.

This card trick is the best example of how I was manipulated by Klemmer & Associates in their seminars.

Klemmer & Associates bottom card philosphy is not one I want in my life. For the past two years I was dazzled by Klemmers philosphy in my life.

Until it blew up and brought more destruction than imaginable in my life.

At the core of my belief system there was always a contradiction that I felt going through the seminars. I ignored this gut level contradiction occuring in me.

Now I am sorting out the mess. I should have paid attention to the deep level contradictions in me during my Klemmer experience.

I knew I was being manipulated in my psyche, and I chose to keep playing.

I am responsible, and Klemmer is accountable.

I hope this will steer many from attending Klemmer & Associates seminars.

Unless you want to be manipulated, and brainwashed.

I wonder if anyone has thought about or attempted to contact the Media/Press about Brian Klemmer and Associates , perhaps they would be interested in a local newspaper type story about the problems with this controversial group - or if not Brian Klemmer and Associates , maybe the Media would be interested in being contacted about stories about other controversial Large Group Awareness Training groups ? Has anyone thought about this or done this ?

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ajinajan

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ajinajan

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Rswinters
Its simply to get a participant to say the card on the bottom of deck without being conscious of being manipulated by me to get them to say that card.

I have polished this to a fine art. People who have never seen the trick are always amazed.

It is only the critical thinkers that catch on fast. Even most of them have a hard time figuring it out fast.

Because they know they are being manipulated. They just can't put a finger on how I am doing it.

In time they figure it out, as I patiently work with them to understand the trick.

I don't show the trick with an intention of not revealing to participant how I manipulated them to do the trick.

This card trick is the best example of how I was manipulated by Klemmer & Associates in their seminars.

Klemmer & Associates bottom card philosphy is not one I want in my life. For the past two years I was dazzled by Klemmers philosphy in my life.

Until it blew up and brought more destruction than imaginable in my life.

At the core of my belief system there was always a contradiction that I felt going through the seminars. I ignored this gut level contradiction occuring in me.

Now I am sorting out the mess. I should have paid attention to the deep level contradictions in me during my Klemmer experience.

I knew I was being manipulated in my psyche, and I chose to keep playing.

I am responsible, and Klemmer is accountable.

I hope this will steer many from attending Klemmer & Associates seminars.

Unless you want to be manipulated, and brainwashed.

I wonder if anyone has thought about or attempted to contact the Media/Press about Brian Klemmer and Associates , perhaps they would be interested in a local newspaper type story about the problems with this controversial group - or if not Brian Klemmer and Associates , maybe the Media would be interested in being contacted about stories about other controversial Large Group Awareness Training groups ? Has anyone thought about this or done this ?

I am simply pointing out that if Brian Klemmer and Associates , or even other controversial groups and forms of Large Group Awareness Training , are not yet talked about in the Press - maybe it is up to people like you and me , to seek out the press and media , contact them , e.g. newspapers , television , radio , etc. - and see if maybe they actually would be interested in a story.

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Rswinters
Klemmer & Associates is founded on the philosphy of "The Secret

This news report on exposing this garbage philosphy is to good not to put on this thread.

Remember all. "The Secret" is a foundational philosphy of Klemmer.

Here is what this philosphy produces.

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