PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Steve989
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Date: January 09, 2007 10:10AM
Jeri I understand completely.
I only wished the light would go on for my wife, but I fear that time will only tell. My daughters are still coming to grips with what happen and I am scared that this is going to effect them as much, if not more, than it did to me. They still cry and I can't find the words to comfort them except to tell them tomorrow is another day.
I only wished the light would go on for my wife, but I fear that time will only tell. My daughters are still coming to grips with what happen and I am scared that this is going to effect them as much, if not more, than it did to me. They still cry and I can't find the words to comfort them except to tell them tomorrow is another day.
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Steve989
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Date: January 28, 2007 01:13AM
PSI is a cult; My wife went to PSI Seminars now she is really twisted in her thinking. They teach on broad subjects where everyone draws their own conclusion. There is no check to see what each student is about to take from the seminar into the world. What I'm saying is since there are no checks and balances from the discussions, everyone attending will select only what they think they need to fix their perceived problem. Then they plug the perceived solution in where ever they think it fits. The danger is that these are not real head doctors dealing in one on one person therapy. They don't have any way of knowing if this mental motivation is being applied correctly in theory or if they are making existing problems more complex. Each student will interpret what he or she wants from the subject matter.
My wife returned from these seminars talking like some kind of bitch. She began blaming me for all her worldly unhappiness. The damage had been done after her PSI 7 seminar at the ranch and after she had spent about $3000.00. What I didn’t know I learned through her actions.
PSI seminars didn’t teach her anything about morals or ethics, but they did teach her it's all about the forward charge no matter what. Don’t let the husband, or the kids or anything for that matter stand in your way of “happiness” and what they call “success.” It's all about you and what you want in life and to push everything else to the side. She came back so changed that I don't know if I can deal with her anymore. She now says things to me meaningful only to her like "Who are you trying to be, or that is what you tell yourself." She came across as some sort of robot programmed to do someone else’s bidding. I don’t know what buttons they pressed in her mind that caused her to totally zone me out even if I was trying to save her for this bullshit.
PSI Seminars is a very dangerous seminar to those whom minds and families it will destroy. It destroyed my family; it turned my wife into a mindless PSI idiot. Even my children, who are very young, won’t go near her, not that she cares.
My wife returned from these seminars talking like some kind of bitch. She began blaming me for all her worldly unhappiness. The damage had been done after her PSI 7 seminar at the ranch and after she had spent about $3000.00. What I didn’t know I learned through her actions.
PSI seminars didn’t teach her anything about morals or ethics, but they did teach her it's all about the forward charge no matter what. Don’t let the husband, or the kids or anything for that matter stand in your way of “happiness” and what they call “success.” It's all about you and what you want in life and to push everything else to the side. She came back so changed that I don't know if I can deal with her anymore. She now says things to me meaningful only to her like "Who are you trying to be, or that is what you tell yourself." She came across as some sort of robot programmed to do someone else’s bidding. I don’t know what buttons they pressed in her mind that caused her to totally zone me out even if I was trying to save her for this bullshit.
PSI Seminars is a very dangerous seminar to those whom minds and families it will destroy. It destroyed my family; it turned my wife into a mindless PSI idiot. Even my children, who are very young, won’t go near her, not that she cares.
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Steve989
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Date: February 19, 2007 09:51AM
22000 posts and people are still falling from the PSI cult like tactics.
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Steve989
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Date: February 20, 2007 12:25AM
PSI Survivor, I started a new thread if you're interested in reading it.
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Dan_V
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Date: March 31, 2007 12:53PM
PSIsurvivor,
I remember someone in my group complaining about something similar they experienced. I see that yout post is almost three years old, and I hope you are healing from this.
Dan
I remember someone in my group complaining about something similar they experienced. I see that yout post is almost three years old, and I hope you are healing from this.
Dan
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Chastain
()
Date: May 07, 2007 04:39AM
My girlfriend just returned from PSI7 and left within three days. She told me that she met and "shared" her feeling with a man she met there and wants to have a life with him. She claimed this guy was her "soul mate."
I was wondering if this group has sexual relations like some of the other groups while they are there at the ranch?
I was wondering if this group has sexual relations like some of the other groups while they are there at the ranch?
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Steve989
()
Date: May 07, 2007 09:44AM
I asked my wife this question after she left and she said no, but I am sorry to say I didn't believe her after reading the post by psi survivor.
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Robert-Paul
()
Date: May 10, 2007 09:05AM
Chastian, I just responded to another message from ibn143 and she asked the same question. I hope noone minds but I repeated my response here for you.
I lost my wife to this a couple of years ago. She attended the basic seminar and signed up for PSI7 at the end of that. She paid $3000.00 for PSI7, left and returned with a new attitude. Nothing was good enough for her. She wanted to live her life “now” as she called it. She was so excited about this new attitude that the only ones who would tolerate her were the people in her group. She would stay up nights checking her email from her PSI group as they started a group on Yahoo. She left within a few weeks of coming back from PSI7 and divorced me. She also signed up for a 9 day Leadership program, which costs $4000.00, but because she couldn’t get the funds she had to put that plan on hold.
I learned she started a relationship with a man while at the ranch. She told me later they do an exercise called “the sharing.” They apparently stand in a circle and you stare into the eyes of someone of the opposite sex by candlelight. They tell one another that they either would, or would not, like to have an intimate relationship with each other. Human beings being what they are of course something could happen and I guess it did with my wife. I even heard sex acts occur behind the barn during “the barn dance.” According to what I’ve read here and other places they are partnered with someone else and their “buddy” has them dress in sexy clothing for the dance and other exercises. I even remember her telling me they had them doing yard work in bikini’s’ and work gloves. She tells me loved it; that it showed her something about herself that she didn’t realize before. I thought she was out of her mind.
When she left she started seeing a man she met at the ranch. They were recruiting their families and friends. Most of our friends thought she was nuts. She ruined her finances, relationships with her family and once you could say she saw the light she asked me to take her back. Of course I don’t see it working anymore and told her as such. Too much drama for me.
I am sorry about your boyfriend but I fear that once he returns to you he won’t be the same. He’ll try to recruit you and use the excuse “if you really love me” you’ll go. He’ll even try using the excuse that you’ll really see how much he loves you if you go. I know, that makes no sense to me either but that’s what my wife said to me.
I hope things work out for you but be prepared to loose him because he will throw you to the side if you don’t see things his way or go to this crap. I saw this when my wife recruited her friend to take the basic. The friend spent just as much money, came back and left her husband and her children (which still surprises the hell out of me). She’s still heavily into PSI and has spent (this is rumor of course) over $12000.00 on this and is deep in debt.
Damn, I reread this and I still can’t believe it. I guess you don’t realize someone you love could destroy themselves with this and you’re the only one to see it. The only way to realize it is to live it.
If I had to offer you some advice; please, whatever you do don’t go. There is just too much evidence out there to discount those for PSI or Large Group Awareness Training programs. Someone asked me how my wife could be that stupid and at first I thought the same thing. I learned that it’s not a matter of intelligence, because some of these people are very smart, but they are looking for something in their lives that they feel they are lacking. And they are told you need to recruit the ones close to you so that they also can understand how you feel. They also tell them if you won’t go you are holding them back so you need to leave them behind.
Good luck and please be careful.
I lost my wife to this a couple of years ago. She attended the basic seminar and signed up for PSI7 at the end of that. She paid $3000.00 for PSI7, left and returned with a new attitude. Nothing was good enough for her. She wanted to live her life “now” as she called it. She was so excited about this new attitude that the only ones who would tolerate her were the people in her group. She would stay up nights checking her email from her PSI group as they started a group on Yahoo. She left within a few weeks of coming back from PSI7 and divorced me. She also signed up for a 9 day Leadership program, which costs $4000.00, but because she couldn’t get the funds she had to put that plan on hold.
I learned she started a relationship with a man while at the ranch. She told me later they do an exercise called “the sharing.” They apparently stand in a circle and you stare into the eyes of someone of the opposite sex by candlelight. They tell one another that they either would, or would not, like to have an intimate relationship with each other. Human beings being what they are of course something could happen and I guess it did with my wife. I even heard sex acts occur behind the barn during “the barn dance.” According to what I’ve read here and other places they are partnered with someone else and their “buddy” has them dress in sexy clothing for the dance and other exercises. I even remember her telling me they had them doing yard work in bikini’s’ and work gloves. She tells me loved it; that it showed her something about herself that she didn’t realize before. I thought she was out of her mind.
When she left she started seeing a man she met at the ranch. They were recruiting their families and friends. Most of our friends thought she was nuts. She ruined her finances, relationships with her family and once you could say she saw the light she asked me to take her back. Of course I don’t see it working anymore and told her as such. Too much drama for me.
I am sorry about your boyfriend but I fear that once he returns to you he won’t be the same. He’ll try to recruit you and use the excuse “if you really love me” you’ll go. He’ll even try using the excuse that you’ll really see how much he loves you if you go. I know, that makes no sense to me either but that’s what my wife said to me.
I hope things work out for you but be prepared to loose him because he will throw you to the side if you don’t see things his way or go to this crap. I saw this when my wife recruited her friend to take the basic. The friend spent just as much money, came back and left her husband and her children (which still surprises the hell out of me). She’s still heavily into PSI and has spent (this is rumor of course) over $12000.00 on this and is deep in debt.
Damn, I reread this and I still can’t believe it. I guess you don’t realize someone you love could destroy themselves with this and you’re the only one to see it. The only way to realize it is to live it.
If I had to offer you some advice; please, whatever you do don’t go. There is just too much evidence out there to discount those for PSI or Large Group Awareness Training programs. Someone asked me how my wife could be that stupid and at first I thought the same thing. I learned that it’s not a matter of intelligence, because some of these people are very smart, but they are looking for something in their lives that they feel they are lacking. And they are told you need to recruit the ones close to you so that they also can understand how you feel. They also tell them if you won’t go you are holding them back so you need to leave them behind.
Good luck and please be careful.
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Ghost Dancer
()
Date: June 13, 2007 09:17AM
Robert-Paul,
I read your post and this is exactly what I am going through with my wife. She has been back a little more than a month and I've caught her in some many lies reference this.
Did your wife become secretive after her return from PSI7?
I read your post and this is exactly what I am going through with my wife. She has been back a little more than a month and I've caught her in some many lies reference this.
Did your wife become secretive after her return from PSI7?
PSI Seminars: What happend at PSI 7
Posted by:
Ghost Dancer
()
Date: June 13, 2007 11:43AM
Ok, I gather a list of senators in Arizona. I think if we get together and email them and complain about PSI and other large groups awareness training programs maybe we can close them down.
Arizona Senate
Name Dis E-mail Phone (602) Fax (602)
Bennett 01 kbennett@azleg.gov 926-5584 926-3429
Hale 02 ahale@azleg.gov 926-4323 417-3160
Gould 03 rgould@azleg.gov 926-4138 417-3165
Harper 04 jharper@azleg.gov 926-4178 417-3154
Flake 05 jflake@azleg.gov 926-5219 417-3223
Martin 06 dmartin@azleg.gov 926-5284 417-3163
Waring 07 jwaring@azleg.gov 926-4916 417-3150
Allen 08 callen@azleg.gov 926-4480
417-3155
Burns 09 rburns@azleg.gov 926-5993 417-3225
Gray 10 lgray@azleg.gov 926-3376 417-3253
Leff 11 bleff@azleg.gov 926-4486 417-3170
Blendu 12 rblendu@azleg.gov 926-5955 417-3168
Miranda 13 rmiranda@azleg.gov 926-5911 417-3171
Brotherton 14 bbrotherton@azleg.gov 926-4485 926-3429
Cheuvront 15 kcheuvront@azleg.gov 926-5325 417-3149
Aguirre 16 laguirre@azleg.gov 926-3830 417-3145
Mitchell 17 hmitchell@azleg.gov 926-4124 417-3164
Johnson 18 kjohnson@azleg.gov 926-3160 417-3151
Jarrett 19 mjarrett@azleg.gov 926-5288 417-3161
Huppenthal 20 jhuppenthal@azleg.gov 926-5261 417-3157
Tibshraeny 21 jtibshraeny@azleg.gov 926-4481 417-3152
Verschoor 22 tverschoor@azleg.gov 926-4136 417-3222
Rios 23 rrios@azleg.gov 926-5685 417-3167
Cannell 24 rcannell@azleg.gov 926-4139 417-3156
Arzberger 25 marzberger@azleg.gov 926-4321 417-3146
Hellon 26 thellon@azleg.gov 926-4326 417-3159
Garcia 27 jgarcia@azleg.gov 926-4171
417-3162
Aboud 28 paboud@azleg.gov 926-5262 417-3166
Soltero 29 vsoltero@azleg.gov 926-5342 417-3169
Bee 30 tbee@azleg.gov 926-5683 417-3147
Arizona Senate
Name Dis E-mail Phone (602) Fax (602)
Bennett 01 kbennett@azleg.gov 926-5584 926-3429
Hale 02 ahale@azleg.gov 926-4323 417-3160
Gould 03 rgould@azleg.gov 926-4138 417-3165
Harper 04 jharper@azleg.gov 926-4178 417-3154
Flake 05 jflake@azleg.gov 926-5219 417-3223
Martin 06 dmartin@azleg.gov 926-5284 417-3163
Waring 07 jwaring@azleg.gov 926-4916 417-3150
Allen 08 callen@azleg.gov 926-4480
417-3155
Burns 09 rburns@azleg.gov 926-5993 417-3225
Gray 10 lgray@azleg.gov 926-3376 417-3253
Leff 11 bleff@azleg.gov 926-4486 417-3170
Blendu 12 rblendu@azleg.gov 926-5955 417-3168
Miranda 13 rmiranda@azleg.gov 926-5911 417-3171
Brotherton 14 bbrotherton@azleg.gov 926-4485 926-3429
Cheuvront 15 kcheuvront@azleg.gov 926-5325 417-3149
Aguirre 16 laguirre@azleg.gov 926-3830 417-3145
Mitchell 17 hmitchell@azleg.gov 926-4124 417-3164
Johnson 18 kjohnson@azleg.gov 926-3160 417-3151
Jarrett 19 mjarrett@azleg.gov 926-5288 417-3161
Huppenthal 20 jhuppenthal@azleg.gov 926-5261 417-3157
Tibshraeny 21 jtibshraeny@azleg.gov 926-4481 417-3152
Verschoor 22 tverschoor@azleg.gov 926-4136 417-3222
Rios 23 rrios@azleg.gov 926-5685 417-3167
Cannell 24 rcannell@azleg.gov 926-4139 417-3156
Arzberger 25 marzberger@azleg.gov 926-4321 417-3146
Hellon 26 thellon@azleg.gov 926-4326 417-3159
Garcia 27 jgarcia@azleg.gov 926-4171
417-3162
Aboud 28 paboud@azleg.gov 926-5262 417-3166
Soltero 29 vsoltero@azleg.gov 926-5342 417-3169
Bee 30 tbee@azleg.gov 926-5683 417-3147
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