This is their explanation from the Trainer In Training cult perspective: “Well, we make agreements with each other in the pre-mortal life to teach each other and learn from each other. So in fact, you did agree to be molested, you just don’t remember because the mortal veil has been placed over your eyes that you might not see so you can have this mortal experience. With our assistance, you may remove that veil and forgive your beautiful teachers...”. They reinforce this reasoning from a children’s book (that is sometimes read to them in the Summit training) called The Little Soul and the Sun.
Thank you, ex. Same story at Quest South Africa, although - [b:8c0b31e1c1]like all their other 'teachings' - not really explicitly explained, but implied through cryptic comments delivered in the middle of a highly controlled gestalty type atmosphere [/b:8c0b31e1c1]where the trainees are outnumbered by assistants, who act as if they represent the universe and respond in a way that is supposed to teach the lesson. It becomes more explicitly stated as you do more courses and assist more.
In the basic course it is presented only as "you chose your parents" and with the comment "you don't have to believe it, but if you choose to think that way you are more empowered, so you might as well... it doesn't have to be true" - but later on they make it into an Absolute Truth, Law of the Universe type thing.
I want to explain how these theories are "implied" throughout the training, rather than taught.
The theories that quest base their "work" on are given during the weekend basic course (quest) mostly on the first day. The rest of the basic course consists of games to demonstrate the concepts, with discussion in between. Quest is said to about "how the world works and how you interact with it". On this course the emphasis is not on being at cause, but about "going into effect" - mostly how others go into effect and it is "nothing to do with you". This creates the arrogant effect, as after quest most people go around saying and doing what the hell they want, ignoring other people's feelings as "nothing to do with me" and responding with "that's your shit" if anyone objects.
The "advanced" course, Inquest, is said to be "about you" and is about being "at cause". There is no "data" on this course; no lectures, no discussion; everything is demonstrated through "experience". If anyone tries to ask a question, or for something to be explained, they are told "You did quest. The data was given. Why are you pretending not to know?". There was a big sign up in the hall throughout Inquest, that said "what are you pretending not to know" and that was hammered throughout the course. A lot of things were not actually explained in the quest data sessions, they continuing implication was always that we already know everything (through our higher self, which is kind of psychic) so we must pretend not to know.
From the second trainees walk through the door, they are told that they chose every single detail of what happens in the training hall, and every single detail is a mirror of their outside life, and every single detail of what they do is carried out as 'energy' into the outside world, in real time, to create what happens 'out there'.
So, first thing, everyone is given a name tag and a number with 'you chose that number'. Everyone is told to sit down in a circle, but not next to anyone they know. Then the trainer says 'you have chosen the person on your right to be your angel, and you have chosen to be the angel of the person on your left. That person is your charge. Your sole responsibility on inquest is your charge." You chose your charge and angel (and the implication is that its a pre-mortal agreement as ex described) And so it goes, for every tiny detail.
The walls of the rest area at the back of the room are covered floor to ceiling in newspaper clippings. Throughout the course the trainers remind people that everything they do is being carried out as energy into the world. The newspaper clippings are there as proof of that, designed to have the same themes as what goes in on the room.
The training takes place over five days. During the day everyone is locked into the hall, no going outside, not even for breaks. The doors are locked and chained from the outside. At the end of each day trainees are instructed to go to one person's house, sharing cars with house and designated drivers chosen by the group (uh... voted for this time, not chosen by magic). All money is handed over to a designated group member. On leaving the hall the rules are: no phone calls, no radio, no tv, no going anywhere other than to a shop for food, no speaking to anyone in shops other than for the purposes of buying food. Homework must be done every night.
There are about 20 ground rules. One of them is to follow every instruction from an assistant or from a trainer, so that adds to the list. I couldn't remember half of them. Breaking a ground rule is out of integrity and worse than the 7 deadly sins or breaking the ten commandments. If someone breaks a ground rule, the person is not called on for it. Their angel is called on. Being called on for you charge breaking a ground rule is not a gentle interview. Example: someone doesn't do homework. The trainer turns on that person's angel:
[b:8c0b31e1c1]"WHY HASN'T HE DONE HIS HOMEWORK?? WAKE UP, YOU ARE FUCKING UP PEOPLE'S LIVES!!!!! WHY ARE YOU NOT SUPPORTING YOUR CHARGE??? CAN'T YOU SEE HE'S KILLING HIMSELF??? WE'RE NOT FUCKING AROUND HERE!!! PEOPLE ARE DYING OUT THERE!!!"[/b:8c0b31e1c1][/size:8c0b31e1c1][/color:8c0b31e1c1]
(Bold and red to indicate tone and volume of trainer's voice)
This is an effective means of controlling people. I followed every rule for fear of getting my angel into trouble. It also stopped me from 'running away' at night time, because there'd have been hell to pay not only for my angel, but the whole group (also because I had no money and I was stuck in a stranger's house in the middle of nowhere, with no phone).
But more than that, this is what slowly but surely drives a person crazy.
On the first day driving home from the hall some people cracked jokes like "oh look, there's a fire, we created that, HA HA". By the third day there were no jokes. One day we drove past a car crash scene and everyone started screaming at everyone else to fucking get into integrity and stop their shit because look at what we'd done.
So that's the general scene and tone of Inquest. All the processes, which are extreme in themselves, take part in this context and environment.
So being "at cause" is not just a bad idea. Its a whole false reality that they create. If you look at the Stanford prison experiment, within about two days the 'prisoners' began to think and act as if they were 'real' prisoners. They believed what their environment told them. The same thing happens on inquest; when there is no normal reality to refer to, and you are made to be at cause, creator of everything from the number on your name-tag to your charge's behaviour to corruption in government, to pedophilia reported in the newspaper, to murder, to rape, to natural disasters - it becomes 'real' rather than just a crappy idea to think about.
Anyway... I wanted to get to what billy-g was saying about the physical attacks in some processes, but I thought it was necessary to put it in context first...