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It is probably just my negativity that attracted this to me. Although I am generally a very positive person, I was definitely negative about Sedona/Release. Maybe I can buy one of those rocks and attract a man who can see through this kind of B.S.

This is where the profound stupidity of 'the secret', LGAT or other new age type teachings, comes into full view.
As a non-follower, a person seems powerful enough to 'attract' abandonment or betrayal by loved ones while being powerless to 'attract' the circumstance where friends, family, or spouses are wise to the schemes and deceptions of gurus and 'pick pockets' (as stated by corboy on a different thread), and where they clue in instantly when some $$$ grabbing shrike is swooping in for the kill.

If anyone wants to analyze the techniques used in this New Age propaganda-brainwashing style movie...don't forget, you can watch if for free on Google video..
(you need high-speed internet...if you don't have that, you can book a computer at your local library, bring your own earphones at watch it like that).

Free online version of the "The Secret" video by Rhonda Byrne (Complete Version), The Secret
[video.google.com]

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The Anticult
If anyone wants to analyze the techniques used in this New Age propaganda-brainwashing style movie...don't forget, you can watch if for free on Google video..
(you need high-speed internet...if you don't have that, you can book a computer at your local library, bring your own earphones at watch it like that).

Free online version of the "The Secret" video by Rhonda Byrne (Complete Version), The Secret
[video.google.com]

No thanks.

And in addition to the headphones, you'd probably need dramamine and a barfbag...

ajinajan...
I hope you know that those negative thoughts you are having, are creating and mirroring back those same results in your life?
If we think the thought, "these LGAT Gurus are just out to scam us", then guess what? We ATTRACT LGAT Guru's into our life that just want to scam us, and [b:be7bbc896e]we make them scam us[/b:be7bbc896e] by our negative thoughts.
On the other hand if we think, "these wonderful teachers want to help me have a terrific life", then we attract them into our life, and they have a wonderful life with all of our money!

Obviously, I am being sarcastic, sorry if I traumatized you for a sec!
;-)
But I have been thinking about this a lot, and this might be one of the most evil and nasty belief systems out there, when abused. Bascially, the "New Thought" Gurus tell people...

-if you do what I tell you to do with this New Thought belief system, then great things will happen for you.
-if you criticize what I am telling you to do, then your own negative thoughts are going to make your life a literal hell on earth.

Its the same thing as primitive religion. Its based on FEAR. If you don't do what I say, then you are literally going to HELL.

But with this "New Thought" stuff, they say, if you don't listen to me, then you are damning yourself to a hell on earth, with lack of money, lack of love, shitty career, cancer, and everything else.
They have taken the Human Condition, which we are all subject to, and they say, you can ESCAPE the human condition, by following me, and doing what I tell you to do, buying my CD's, books, DVD's..etc.

But if you DOUBT me and my teachings, then you are cursing yourself by your own negative thoughts, and thus creating cancer in your body, misery, debt, mental illness, alcoholism, and everything else that is horrible.

That shit is evil. Literally.

I used to practice this very "New Thought" stuff many years ago, and so I happen to know basically everything about it. But I had rejected it many years ago, and never really thought about much after that.
But as I now look back on it, and look into it, I can now see how very dangerous and abusive it can be. It can wreck your life.

I think I am going to use my own positive thinking to become these "New Thought" practitioners and Gurus, WORST NIGHTMARE!
:-)
Now that this New Thought crud has hit Oprah, it needs to be taken down, and exposed for what it is. It really is the supreme mindf*ck, and it has a built in defense mechanism, that if you doubt it, that very doubt causes it to not work.
So you are locked in.

This is why people literally die from this stuff, as when in Christian Science (a form New Thought) they refuse to call a doctor for their child, because by calling the doctor, shows they don't BELIEVE in the mind-cure power of Christ, thus, calling the doctor will cause the child to die, so not calling a doctor, and just "doing a treatment-nothing" is the only thing to do, which results in the poor child suffering, and even dying.

Most of the people in New Thought are trapped by the belief system, which has a Catch-22 built into it. I don't think anyone designed this belief system, I think it is a type of "meme" that is self-perpetuating, and self-sustaining.

Of course, the Big Shots at the top making the $, know its bullshit and does not work, as they see their clients stay the same, so they just live like hypocrites, and drown their sorrows with cash.
There is SERIOUS money in this stuff. Unity, Religious Science, and all of the thousands of New Thought Practitioners...

New Thought has always been about MONEY right from the start, the Fillmores, Mary Baker Eddy, and all the rest of them made serious fortunes from this.

Maybe someone should write an expose on what's behind the Secret?
Guess how many books they would sell? 100?
;-)

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ajinajan
No thanks.

And in addition to the headphones, you'd probably need dramamine and a barfbag...

whatever happened to critical thinking? this stuff has infected my wife, wiped out QL's marriage and led more than a few down a dark road. we need our psychologists to expose this for the brainwashing that it is!

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The Anticult


-if you do what I tell you to do with this New Thought belief system, then great things will happen for you.
-if you criticize what I am telling you to do, then your own negative thoughts are going to make your life a literal hell on earth.

Its the same thing as primitive religion. Its based on FEAR. If you don't do what I say, then you are literally going to HELL.

But with this "New Thought" stuff, they say, if you don't listen to me, then you are damning yourself to a hell on earth, with lack of money, lack of love, shitty career, cancer, and everything else.
They have taken the Human Condition, which we are all subject to, and they say, you can ESCAPE the human condition, by following me, and doing what I tell you to do, buying my CD's, books, DVD's..etc.

But if you DOUBT me and my teachings, then you are cursing yourself by your own negative thoughts, and thus creating cancer in your body, misery, debt, mental illness, alcoholism, and everything else that is horrible.

That shit is evil. Literally.

(A little reluctant to open that can of worms but) I don't know how "new" it is unless you consider "New Testament" to be also as this is reminiscent of the John 3:16 thing one sees posted all over the place which speaks to the same thing you mention above:

"John 3:16 (chapter 3, verse 16 of the Gospel of John) is one of the most widely quoted verses from the Christian Bible. It has been called the 'Bible in a nutshell' because it is considered a summary of some of the most central doctrines of traditional Christianity:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

A typical interpretation of the verse might go as follows:

* For God so loved the world... - God is a God of love and this love motivates his action in the rest of the verse
* ...that he gave... - there was God giving something, his son as a sacrifice
* ...his only begotten[1] Son... - the human Jesus of Nazareth is also the Son of God, and also the Second Person of the Trinity
* ...that whosoever... - that salvation is open to all who will believe
* ...believeth... - being saved is based on belief or faith, rather than based on human works.
* ...in him... - the belief being in Jesus, the Saviour
* ...should not perish... - implies the fate of those who do not believe, that is the doctrine of hell
* ...but have everlasting life. - shows the reward of those who believe, that is the doctrine of heaven"

(from Wikipedia)



Ellen

Yes, a parade of psychologists waving banners saying, 'YOU ARE BEING CONTROLLED. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE. YOU ARE BRAINWASHED. IT'S NOT TOO LATE. THINK OF THE OZONE LAYER ...'

New Age stuff, guru hocus-pocus and dodgy snake-oil salespeople come in Mexican waves. We're so hungry for meaning that we'll eat SH*T and piss on ourselves if we're convinced of following the right path. We're a sad, lazy species that only seeks help once it's practically too late. Organisations like LEC and films like The Secret are the new porn industries. But they don't want only your cash and body ... :twisted:

I say, get a life. Your own.

Hi Ellen, the term New Thought is a technical term for this movement. This page supports it, but seems to be pretty accurate in its history.
[www.websyte.com]

[www.google.com]

New Thought, is not "new" as you say. Actually, the core of New Thought is the New Testament, but the NewThought folks say that you can have the Powers of Christ if you Believed strong enough!

Cool... you could walk on water, make bread out of air, curse fig trees, heal lepers, what else? ..levitate, read minds, disappear, Ascend to Heaven, overcome death and live forever like Jesus, etc.
Literally, I ain't kidding.

so it was/is blasphemy, so someone called it "new" as it was a new interpretation of the New Testament, and a "new" way of thinking.
Like the "new" colgate toothpaste makes your teeth whiter, etc.

It then got watered down a bit, and so now its about self-healing, getting rich, cars, sex, money, etc.

So if Jesus came back, according to New Thought he would be getting laid like crazy, driving 6 Porches, living in a palace, and being a superstar...and healing a few cripples on the side I guess. He would have his own talk show, and would be buddies with Bill Gates...and Oprah of course...
;-)

man, read the Oprah message boards if you want to wreck your mind...its scary how about 95% of people just Believe whatever they are sold. It ain't funny...it is scary to me.

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(A little reluctant to open that can of worms but) I don't know how "new" it is unless you consider "New Testament" to be also as this is reminiscent of the John 3:16 thing one sees posted all over the place which speaks to the same thing you mention above:
Ellen

Here is a rough New Thought History Chart
It ties Emerson into a part of it, which is actually sorta accurate...this seems to be a general overview of the nuttiness.

[websyte.com]

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The Anticult
Here is a rough New Thought History Chart
It ties Emerson into a part of it, which is actually sorta accurate...this seems to be a general overview of the nuttiness.

[websyte.com]

Yes, that's my understanding. This is helpful. Emerson was one of the Transcendentalists, along with Thoreau and Nathaniel Hawthorne (briefly). Might be interesting to note that Mind Dynamics came from the Unity Schools and so Landmark can be put at the bottom of this chart and that the scammers hooked into whatever they could piggy-back that was fashionable as they did with meditation and "greater consciousness," or "expanded awareness" in the 1970s.


Ellen