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When your friend is rattling off this language, consider that this is a way that her mind is trying to cope with having been assaulted.

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The friends I've watched get sucked in don't go in with a latent desire to become estholes. They go in with a latent desire to be relieved of their desperate self-doubt - at any cost, including being turned into self-satisfied estholes.
The result is the same, but to me the root cause makes it a little less humorous.

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Molbro4k
What I love most about it is the way that it can be used to discount ANY views, thoughts, or concepts which go against their beliefs:

[i:6621f1a0d9]"Don't worry, that's not him talking, that's just his programs!" [/i:6621f1a0d9]

If you don't want to do what they want, your "resistance program" is going.
If they don't want to do what you want, they're making a conscious decision to do what's right for them, and if you don't think so, that's just "your thing".
I'm actually a little envious at how well it works for them.

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The first and simplest stage in the discipline, which can be taught even to young children, is called, in Newspeak, crimestop. Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity. But stupidity is not enough. On the contrary, orthodoxy in the full sense demands a control over one's own mental processes as complete as that of a contortionist over his body. Oceanic society rests ultimately on the belief that Big Brother is omnipotent and that the Party is infallible. But since in reality Big Brother is not omnipotent and the party is not infallible, there is need for an unwearying, moment-to-moment flexibility in the treatment of facts. The keyword here is blackwhite. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink.

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The intention was to make speech, and especially speech on any subject not ideologically neutral, as nearly as possible independent of consciousness. For the purposes of everyday life it was no doubt necessary, or sometimes necessary, to reflect before speaking, but a Party member called upon to make a political or ethical judgement should be able to spray forth the correct opinions as automatically as a machine gun spraying forth bullets. His training fitted him to do this, the language gave him an almost foolproof instrument, and the texture of the words, with their harsh sound and a certain wilful ugliness which was in accord with the spirit of Ingsoc, assisted the process still further.

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nutrino

Ummmm.... my sentiments exactly as I watched the Wolrd Trade Centers implode before my eyes.... gosh darn, I said to myself, whoever was responsible for this is perfect just the way he is, and no circumstance requires a negative conversation !!!... I felt so much better I want out and ordered a great big pizza with the works ! It was a win for me it was !

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Are these none too subtle thinkers capable of explaining what they mean by "be great " ? How does one "be great" ? More of their non-specific, unreferenced, overgeneralized doofus admonitions.... like, everyone is supposed to carry around in their minds a "behavioral greatness generating program" that only needs to be linguistically activated when an [b:ba1dc38bff] enlightened being [/b:ba1dc38bff] (they're the ones taking your money to share these kibbles of wisdom with you) sidles up and shares, " hey there, unevolved mass of protoplasm, be great" !!! ... and this is like, supposed to trigger some form of instantaneous manifestation of greatitude ?

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MiniTru

[u:f9820598a3]Nineteen Eighty-four[/u:f9820598a3]:

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...The keyword here is blackwhite. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary...

This is so reminiscent of the ~real/unreal~ thing at Landmark, in which an exterior or objective reality is "flipped," (after endless, complex theorizing and tedious lecturing and many hours without food or water in uncomfortable chairs), with one's interior, subjective reality as part of the program to destabilize and confuse (or render insane) into a self-referential and self-involved debasement supposedly mimicking ~enlightenment.~

Estie wrote about this in a better way than I have.



Ellen

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From: Estie
Date: Thurs, May 4 2006 11:21 pm
Groups: alt.fan.landmark


Found it! It's amazing what's on the web. Reactivation warning.

REALITY--------------------UNREALITY
(objective)-----------------(subjective)
physical--------------------experience
time----------------------emotions
distance------------------opinions
form----------------------attitudes
measurability
agreement *
effect-----------------------cause

*agreement is the substance of measurability - it has a beginning,
middle and end

There was an exercise which demonstrated that everything in the
physical universe was an effect of creation which preceded it.

Then the trainer crossed out "Reality" and wrote "Unreality". He
crossed out "Unreality" and wrote "Reality". i.e., the column on the
left is now "UNREALITY" and the column on the right is now "REALITY"

Experience is the most real thing there is - it's the source of
everything. What most people call reality is based solely on
agreement. If enough people agree the world is flat, then it's flat.

This is a secret. Don't tell anyone or they'll think you're crazy.
You have to use code words and call the physical world "reality" and
call your experience "unreal."

Each one is the sole creator of their experience.

Self created the world and then forgot that Self had created it.
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Discuss. Don't take it out on me. I didn't make it up, I just posted
what was in the training.

Estie

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Reports of Psychosis After Erhard Course, Jane Brody, The New York
Times, April 24, 1977

Doctors Tell of 7 Who Developed Severe Disturbance After Taking
Self-Awareness Seminars

...As one of the authors, Dr. Leonard L. Glass, said in an interview, "We
don't know if more people become psychotic after est than after riding
on the F train." In a psychotic state, people become detached from
reality and cannot distinguish real from unreal.

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elena
Have you see the flying pigs?

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elena
Have you see the flying pigs?