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Posted by: joe6 ()
Date: August 04, 2006 03:41AM

"To show up" sounds like a phrase from the other source that Erhard pilfered: Heidegger's phenomenology.
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Phenomena are not the foundation or Ground of Being. Neither are they appearances, for as Heidegger argues in "Being and Time", an appearance is "that which shows itself in something else," while a phenomenon is "that which shows itself in itself."
[en.wikipedia.org]

In phenomenology, recognizing something "as it shows itself" is supposed to bring insight.

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Why it's important to talk about it!
Posted by: nutrino ()
Date: August 04, 2006 11:22AM

Gaaaaaad that Heidegger was full of shit. I guess that makes Heidegger's followers full of meta-shit. Double gaaaaaaad, Ron Hubbard meets continental philosophy.... stew that with Dale Carnegie, add a dose of misapplied physics and some freakzoid dimly hinted at eschatology, an astounding pornography collection, Esalen's hot tubs, Ed Bradley's incredulous expression.... I mean, Don DeLillo might do something with this:

"There's something nearly mystical about certain words and phrases that float through our lives. It's computer mysticism. Words that are computer generated to be used on products that might be sold anywhere from Japan to Denmark--words devised to be pronounceable in a hundred languages. And when you detach one of these words from the product it was designed to serve, the words acquires a chantlike quality."

"On meaning in writing:
Making things difficult for the reader is less an attack on the reader than it is on the age and its facile knowledge-market. The writer is driven by his conviction that some truths aren't arrived at so easily, that life is still full of mystery, that it might be better for you, Dear Reader, if you went back to the Living section of your newspaper because this is the dying section and you don't really want to be here."

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Why it's important to talk about it!
Posted by: estie ()
Date: August 08, 2006 12:35PM

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nutrino
... for example, in my est training(s) the trainer would at times use this expression, that seemed to have a specific, almost term of art quality about it, "to show up" ... when the trainer was pleased or something, it wasn't clear how this distinction operated, what its' parameters were, and no attempt was made to clarify what "to show up" meant in this context... ...

Hi Nutrino,

Well, how "to show up" shows up for me is it's pretty much the same as "my impression is" in plain English. It's also pretty much the same as "my interpretation is" and we all know no one can interpret anything correctly. But what "shows up" can have validity. So be sure to make a "distinction" between the two. :lol:

Youse guys may enjoy my humorous commemoration of est's 35th anniversary: [www.freewebtown.com]

Estie

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Why it's important to talk about it!
Posted by: skeptic ()
Date: August 14, 2006 03:26AM

estie-

I LOVE your commemoration page! Very funny!!!!!

skeptic

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Posted by: MiniTru ()
Date: August 14, 2006 11:20AM

thanks estie, that was funny!

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Posted by: estie ()
Date: August 15, 2006 02:35PM

We've gotta have a little fun once in a while. We've earned it!

estie

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