Money and You Graduates if you have participated in this seminar, recently or decades ago, and know in your gut something was off about this seminar. Questioned it and put it away in a box and squashed your intuition, know you are not alone.

Listen to your gut instincts always.


Wiser Aussie

After all these years you still want to save others from the psychological damage caused by Money and You. A LGAT that was constructed by a human being, flawed like the rest of us, who attended a seminar called Est. Money and You like most of these seminars that promise wealth, human potential growth and joy and bliss, has content so much based and borrowed from other trainings and even religions.

Questioning is discouraged, eventhough they say you can do so before the presenter allows you to go for a refreshment break. By then you are so confused, the questioning has somehow dissolved, your bladder is full, you are thirsty and hungry and have a headache. Those basic human functions and needs outweigh the doubts.

Is this coincidental or is it deliberately designed?

You queue up at the restrooms and shocked at the fact, where has the last 6 hours gone?

You hug strangers and some are smelly and creepy. You have no idea who they are. Where they come from. What they do for a living. Yet you hug. It's expected. It's normal. Not in the real world. Only in this highly controlled environment.

They do processes that stir up emotions and unresolved issues. You fleetingly wonder,
"What's this got to do with learning about money and wealth." It's the "You" part of Money and You they say.

This seminar goes for hours and finishes in the early hours of the morning. You are exhausted. They even set you homework. This process and the confusion keeps you awake for longer.

The success of past graduates like -

Robert Kiyosaki
Anthony Robbins
Jack Canfield

......keeps you going, after all if you want to grow and be successful in life, you have to feel uncomfortable.

- Like still hugging the fellow with smelly armpits.

- Putting it out in the universe for money to pay for more courses and seminars.

- Putting up with hunger pains and headaches.

- Putting up with loud music and strangers clapping as you enter the room with a knowing that rattles you because you have no idea what's next.

- The strange crowds that sit behind you observing you all. Some do strange things like invisible energy work. These people also mingle in the breaks area talking to the confused participants. Handing out their business cards right at the end of the seminar on Sunday night.

The good parts are holding hands singing along to music that uplifts you. Imagining a world where there is love, harmony and cooperation. Not competition. It's the injection of this high that is addictive.....and they know it!

When you leave the seminar and out of that bubble, you have withdrawals that are literally painful. The universe doesn't provide. Money doesn't land on your lap. So you dip into your savings that you earnt from the job that Kiyosaki devalued - "the pay check". Yet it was good enough for them to accept but not good enough for you to earn that way. You are labelled a prostitute. Working at a job that's not your passion.

After awhile the pattern is the same. They keep you coming back for more seminars, but they don't teach you anything about money. Other than they want it. You part with it.

Leaving disillusioned you move on with your life. Sometimes when you are doing your grocery shopping or at the gym a song is playing that they used to at the seminar and you are transported back there to that moment, that time. You are no longer in present time, but right there in a confusing past, at that seminar.

You read about people who've been scammed by Robert Kiyosaki, the debt he's in, the failed marriage and you can see the state of his health.

The cases of people having psychosis at a Tony Robbins seminar. Yet everyone else has had a breakthrough experience. Great success!

Let's ignore those who had a nervous breakdown, as long as most had a good experience. That's all that matters.

It takes someone with no conscience, no empathy, no remorse, pure entitlement to ignore those damaged by their seminar. It's only a small percentage after all.

Accountability and taking responsibility only applies to you, the participant, not to the seminar presenter or the organisation.

A double standard. If you complain you are the victim.

This stuff never leaves you. You have to manage the PTSD on a daily basis. However they, Money and You, are not responsible for it. Of course! In some twisted way, you are. That's their logic. Or is it their narcissistic mentality?

Some food for thought!