Landmark technology is jealously guarded by the organisation. When you do any of their courses you sign an agreement saying that you will not talk about the tech outside of the course (or something to that effect) you're allowed to talk about what you experienced or what you "got" but you're not allowed to re-publish the actual material that you learn. Also I know that the first course, the Landmark Forum, it covers a lot of little tools (some of which I quite liked and had a few breakthroughs on) none of which you are allowed to write down.

I don't believe that this aura of secrecy has any place within the realm of education, and that people have a right to know exactly what material is going to be taught and to be exposed to that material in a non-peer pressure environment where they're basically free to take it or leave it, as opposed to being verbally pummeled into "getting it." As things stand, they're asked to take it on faith before getting involved. They don't know what they're being exposed to, and they don't know about the conditions in which they will be exposed to it.

In a traditional learning environment, this is not the case, you understand the nature of what it is you are going to be learning, the information is already easily accessible at your local library, and teachers are there to promote students reaching their own opinions and conclusions about what you are learning, whether they like what they're learning or not, and how they choose to apply it.

Now Landmarkians are laughing at this and thinking "oh that's not true, course leaders always say 'just try this on' and there's no pressure" and it's really easy not to feel the pressure when you're jumping through the hoops correctly. But every single time I've seen someone have a problem with the tech, they are absolutely not allowed to get away with that. I know I've gotten into a match with a leader before and they will not let up on you until you give in. And once you give in, they call that you "getting it."

There's this aura of secrecy around the tech for a reason, and that's because to the average person not exposed to it under Landmark's carefully orchestrated conditions, it sounds like complete bunk. Words like 'racket,' terms like 'empty and meaningless' and other fragments of loaded language simply make no sense when you're not eased into it by a trained forum leader. I am convinced that if people were allowed to read the tech before taking courses and informed about the philosophical origins of the material and its meanings, they would be better prepared to make the decision about whether they want to take landmark courses.

Right now we have a lot of excellent material on Rick Ross, most of which exposes various fragments of landmark technology. I hope that someday, someone is able salvage all this information and turn it into an organised resource that closely resembles the tech and what its about. People have a right to know what the tech is before considering landmark courses.

I am not opposed to landmark education's tech, I myself had a number of successes on it. What I am opposed to is the exclusive and secretive nature of the tech, and how people are tricked into swallowing it all, not being allowed to pick and choose what they want to adopt into their thinking. As well as the traps built into the technology which disable critical thinking about Landmark education.

It seems to me that if Landmark really wasn't a money making business and was genuinely interested in a global paradigm shift, it would be investing its time in publishing its tech where ever it could, not attempting to silence anyone who tried to discuss it or re-publish it.

Alright.... and probably for the same reason you only encounter Landmark trainers within the carfully controlled environment of the training room... no different than casino floors filled with slot machines are also carefully controlled, you could say orchestrated, for a specific effect, with everything else removed...

Do you ever see Landmark trainers discussing, or defending, heck, explaining their work in ANY other setting ? No ? Did you ever wonder why this might be the case ?

The basic truth of the matter.... or the heart of the matter as they used to say, is that their magnificent design can't tolerate too much critical inquiry...

When they're toe to toe with well rested, well educated, not easily intimidated or easily impressed hard thinking adults, they come off like pompous teenagers who've been reading some introductory existentialism and had one too many shots of vodka...

Secrecy is an essential element of this thing called Mystique.... for the trainer (and the LEC organization to succeed) they must cultivate a certain Mystique.... their deep thoughts must never be contaminated with laughter or scorn.... (no laughter... one thing you will notice around this organization is its striking lack of humor, especially about itself )...

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inquiry...

When they're toe to toe with well rested, well educated, not easily intimidated or easily impressed hard thinking adults, they come off like pompous teenagers who've been reading some introductory existentialism and had one too many shots of vodka...

[b:34d83cac87]You hit the nail on the head!!!![/b:34d83cac87]

For those of you who are interested, the Harvard Business Report on Landmark in pdf format (about 360kB) can be found on emule.

<<For those of you who are interested, I have the Harvard Business Report on Landmark in pdf format (about 360kB). Send me a message to learn more.>>

I would be most interested in reading the Harvard Business Report on Landmark, if you have a copy you could email me.
Thanks for your time.

I had at one point done the Landmark Forum and Seminar Series, and have since taken a lot of time to simply do some objective research at this site and many others. More information on the "technology" would certainly be appreciated.

blarney36363636:

It seems you are attempting to spread "blarney."

"Harvard business report"?

See [www.culteducation.com]

This is not with the endorsement of Harvard.

Nothing more than anecdotal evidence through polling based upon subjective opinions.

There is no scientific study to support that Landmark produces objective results that can be measured.

rrmoderator,

I was not attempting to spread blarney, though amusing use of the word.
I simply wish to read a copy of the HBR report myself.
I believe that I already probably have the same opinions on the topic as yourself, but I wanted to gather some more information before making my own final judgements on the issue.
From what I have read so far through research, it does indeed seem like the Harvard piece contained virtually no opinions from any other perspective other than Landmark's, which does seem quite odd for a Harvard Business piece.

HBR would do well to perform an updated piece, this time more objective and balanced.

At any rate, I still would like to read the report at some point.

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rrmoderator,

I was not attempting to spread blarney, though amusing use of the word.
I simply wish to read a copy of the HBR report myself.
I believe that I already probably have the same opinions on the topic as yourself, but I wanted to gather some more information before making my own final judgements on the issue.
From what I have read so far through research, it does indeed seem like the Harvard piece contained virtually no opinions from any other perspective other than Landmark's, which does seem quite odd for a Harvard Business piece.

HBR would do well to perform an updated piece, this time more objective and balanced.

At any rate, I still would like to read the report at some point.

As I understand it, the "study" was more about the viability of MLM using word-of-mouth and "volunteer" labor as a business-model and not any endorsement of the supposed product.


EZ

Hi there midonov123-
I'm interested in the Harvard Business Report on Landmark Education.

I now have enough friends that have gone through the Landmark Forum and come away from it with a great experience, that I'm thinking of finally trying it (even though I'm educated, a doubter, but interested in self-improvement generally).

I've heard this is a great report, but haven't found it anywhere else.
Wanna send it my way?

Thanks!

See [www.culteducation.com]

Harvard has repeatedly told Landmark to stop using its name.

There is no scientific peer-reviewed and published research that offers any meaningful objective measurement regarding Landmark's supposed results.

Landmark instead relies upon anecdotal stories from its graduates extolling what they say are its "benefits."

Landmark certainly has the money to fund meaningful research to measure the effectiveness of its programs. However, the for-profit privately owned company has chosen not to.

Meanwhile Landmark generates more complaints than any other single group included within this database and they have been repeatedly sued for personal injuries by participants linked to their programs.

As a direct result of those lawsuits Landmark now routinely expects participants to sign a release waiving the right to a trial by jury if they are injured and decide to pursue a claim.

See [www.culteducation.com]

This link explains why "mass marathon training" like Landmark is potentially unsafe.

See [www.culteducation.com]

This link explains coercive persuasion techniques often used by groups like Landmark.