Deborah, that is great. I wish you both luck. I on the other hand fear its to late to save my relationship with my wife. This has destroyed the better part of me. And attending PSI is not the answer, it maybe for them, but that is always the answers to their problems, until they run out of money. Again good luck to you both.

Good luck, Deborah

I believe one of the first and most important steps is to have your husband work with you on your own ground, away from the influence of PSI.

Educate yourself as much as you can because getting to marriage therapy might be only a short step along the path to working the nefarious influence of PSI out of your lives.

There may be times he switches between the personality you know and his PSI personality. It is scary when that happens and it is so hard to reach someone who has been put through mind control methods.

These usually happen without the person realising it, and harmful LGATs often uses these methods to trap people into their money-making web.

The first and foremost commitment should always be to one's partner, because the safe spaces that one shares, where vulnerability and openness exist, are the spaces in which one is able to make truly valuable growth.

Remember the saying: All our answers lie within.

It is so true. Sometimes, though, we need to ask questions of our partners, in the safety of the intimacy that we share, to bring those answers out.

PSI does not have the answers with their one-size-fits-all approach. How could they even begin to believe they know anyone who attends one of their courses?

I wish you everything of the best. I have a good feeling for what you are going through because it is happening to me at present.

Good luck and let the truth about these LGATs, and the truth in your heart win.

Brad69

Apparently the PSI head office reads this site and my husband's PSI friends called him about what I posted. I will apologize for not being anonymous but I will not apologize for what I said. I didn't realize that PSI was only on the west coast and that even if I didn't mention any last names or a cty, they still knew it was my husband I was talking about. I do apologize for mentioning names because it was not my intention to gossip about anyone. However, I still believe what I said is true. I also apologize to my husband for shining a light on him and now everyone in PSI in this city will know what I said. I will not be posting anymore with my name so if I post again it will be under an anonymous name and I will not be specific so that I remain anonymous.

Deborah

Before I go there are just a couple of corrections I need to make.
1. It was not the PSI bible that had the sale techniques, it was his PLD manual. I was in sales so I know all of these sales techniques and of course everyone has to make a living. I don't fault PSI for that. Just don't fool yourself that PSI does these seminars for altruistic reasons. It is about the money. Most of my friends tell me they are tired of hearing about PSI and even my friend's boyfriend threatened to stop speaking to my husband because of it.
2. I was informed by my husband that he didn't have a grant for PSI 7. He had a company discount and his company paid for it. That was nice of them since he quit the Friday before PSI 7 began.
3. I understand why he was fired for the timecards. I don't hold that company responsible.

This is my last post as Deborah. PROMISE

Deborah, sorry that PSI is causing you this kind of trouble. I understand completely. I wish the best for you and your husband. I hope you both find peace from the PSI BS and get to move on together in your lives, making your own decisions.

Deborah, I was wondering how you were doing? I hope all is well.


They relive their time at the ranch. I pasted it here because of the quote from whillhites book.


Re: I've been reliving our time together at the ranch this week


Hi Bryan! Great to hear you are still growing and glowing in the
light of the 7 experience. I spoke with Melinda last night, and she
is flying out today for the final circle, I believe. Tell her "hey"!

I finished Tom Willhites book "Path to Liberty" recently. Toward the
end (page 204)he says "What we need to do is keep the thoughts and
attitudes the same as the day we finished that last class. Each
morning when I wake up, I like to imagine that the class was just
yesterday. Positive and warm feelings flood into my conciousness. I
feel revived, refreshed and ready to get on with it." It seems like
you are living in this spirit. I hope you are going to MLS. You are
already a fine leader, but I'm sure there are great growth
opportunities for us there as well.

The week at PSI7 was awesome, realizing we were all a part of each
other, and having the closeness and love grow in each of us was
excellent growth. However, what I seem to reflect on just as much or
more was my re-introduction into the "normal" world. At the ranch we
were one. Going outside of this awesome sense of togetherness,
peace, and excitment could have been a real culture shock. My
experience coming out was really powerful though. In the airport, I
felt like I was looking into, and becoming a part of everyone I
looked at (actually, I already was, but it never felt this strong
before). I could see them, and feel them at the higher level we
should all have become very aware of by now. They too were a part of
me, and in that open time of brighter colors & light just after
having been opened by the experience of 7, I loved them, and they,
in turn, loved me. That is something I am attempting to allow to
grow in me.

Love you all!!
Kim

--- In PSI7_TEAM438@yahoogroups.com, "Bryan" <bwtollefson@...> wrote:
>
> A long-time good friend and co-worker is getting ready to leave the
> ranch this morning and head back into the world, having just
completed
> PSI 7. Every day this week I've found time to pause, look at my
watch,
> remember which day it was and picture us all doing it again, as
well
> has wonder how he and his Team are doing. I can't wait to hear his
> stories.
>
> My wife, Maria, and I will be in final circle tonight for the San
> Diego Basic to support my friend's wife (he lands too late from
SFO to
> be there) and a couple of othe friends who we've helped find their
way
> into the seminar. As an added bonus I'll get to see Maika, who's
been
> auditing the Basic here this week, and perhaps even Melinda - I
never
> did see whteher or not she was coming out from Amarillo for her
friend.
>
> I hope you are all in a realy good place today. Love and Peace from
> San Diego,
> Bryan

White Lights and Workshops. Where do they get this stuff? This is from another PSI victim trying to recruit more victims to their CULT!!!!!



Re: requesting support


Team 206!

Regarding enrollments....

I totally understand where you are coming from. All I know is what
worked for me, and that was I had to "shift" how I was thinking
about enrollments. I used two strategies which led me to a third.

1. I went into my workshop daily and just put it out to my
subconscious that I needed assistance to enroll people into the
basic.

2. I also do my "screen of the mind" while in my workshop and just
saw myself getting overjoyed by people signing up.

3. An LS girlfriend of mine told me to put this phrase where I see
it many times a day . " I AM A MAGNET FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE
THEIR LIVES NOW!"

The shift has really helped me with this portion of the work. I love
you two and want you to know you can call me any time you are
feeling low. 265-1576.
Love you, Jenn

Look at this. They try to get others in their group to support them into getting 'enrollments' for the BASIC. BRAINWASHING pure and simple. Heaven help us.


Team 441!
Hi Everyone!
As some of you may know Neil Simpson, Angela Butler, and I (Brett
Ploessel) are playing PLD! For those of you who have played you know
it's all about enrollment, enrolling people into our lives and
enrolling people into the PSI basic seminar.

One lesson we have learned playing PLD is that not much gets done in
terms of enrollment or otherwise without support. Support can come in
many forms and what we could use RIGHT NOW in terms of support from
team 441 are people who YOU think would benefit from the basic
seminar. OK, this is a trick request of sorts because as we a I'll
know, if you have not taken the basic then.. you could benefit from
it.. Period.

Please understand this request for support in not just about Neil,
Angela, and Brett it's about the people we enroll will into the basic.
All three of us defined enrollment into the basic as our spiritual 90
day goal. All three of us trust the PSI process and truly care. We
would not be in the PLD "game" if it were any other way.

If you have played the game then you will understand. If you have not
played PLD please trust us with someone you Love. Support us by
emailing their contact info to Neil [...] with their contact information.

Please let them know that a loving, caring person will be calling,
remember it's about them and their dreams not about us or you or what
we want from PSI / PLD The basic is their seminar, it's all about them
and it will be their class, they own it, and they can create whatever
they can imagine having been there! Thanks Team.

The basic is "their" seminar. BS, it their money they are interested in. Pure and simple. I sometime think these people actually believe the stuff they are trying to sell for their enrollments.

I got this from a friend. This says it all. LOLOLOLO


World History - As it Really Happened


Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of
agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early human were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night
while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off`the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, LARGE GROUP AWARENESS TRAINING PROGRAMS, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most
powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, home interior designers, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for
their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to actually work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. And usually rip off the conservatives. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing. (Like ripping off people with LARGE GROUP AWARENESS TRAINING PROGRAMS like PSI.)

Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal
may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth
of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true
believers. And to their liberal friends just to piss them off.