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David Allen - GTD - John-Roger - MSIA - Insight Seminars
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: May 22, 2007 02:52AM

Here is a possibly leaked email post concerning David Allen, GTD, and MSIA that has appeared on the internet, with the specific names redacted out of it.
They talk about how the MSIA link hurt Huffington, and they criticize David Allen for mentioning MSIA in a blog post, and not keeping it a secret.
Its difficult to know precisely what they are specifically speaking about, but it appears that someone higher up in GTD than David Allen, (the supposed Leader of GTD) is trying to figure out how to "fix the leak" and keep the fact that MSIA financially controls GTD completely suppressed from public knowledge?
That is why they have tried to keep the MSIA connections completely out of the GTD "project".
One wonders what other "projects" these guys are involved in covertly behind the scenes?

[sphericbox.com]
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MSIA f*ck up
May 20th, 2007 | Category: drain, gtd, msia, f*ck up
Hey, ###,

Unfortunately somebody can not hold his tongue: here and there appear the messages about the relation of the GTD and David Allen to the MSIA. How do you like this:

David here - Well, we’re back. Thanks for your well wishes. FYI the spiritual organization I’ve been closely involved with for 34 years is MSIA (The Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness). [msia.org] (Basically a group of radical-non-joiners who share a focus on a practical approach to spirituality).

on the David’s site? I have got an impression that we were not interested in such type of the disclosure. Frankly speaking, after all that McWilliams hysteria back then I did not want to hear any references to MSIA in our projects. We do not want to mess with John-Roger with all his freaks now; we do not want the “cult of personality” label back either. And we already failed to avoid the problems during the Huffington’s senatorial campaign.

I do not want to press on you but what could you propose to fix all considering the scale of the leak?

PS The financial patterns we polished back then with MSIA work pretty fine in the new environment.

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David Allen - GTD - John-Roger - MSIA - Insight Seminars
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 30, 2007 01:08AM

Looks like all the "bad PR" about the MSIA and John-Roger has got David Allen to try a new approach to PR.
There is an article in WIRED MAGAZINE by Gary Wolf that gives some information about the past of David Allen, which before was just told in very general terms.
But the problem with the article by Gary Wolf is that it plays like an advertisement by discounting the very very serious questions that have been brought up.
Gary Wolf COMPLETELY IGNORES the fact that all of David Allen's key employees/coaches are deep members of MSIA, which many call a cult. He also IGNORES that there is cross-selling between the organizations, and IGNORES that INSIGHT SEMINARS was owned and run by MSIA, and was accused of using it as a front-group.

He also did not publish who owns the buildings that GTD works out of? Do the employees of DavidCo literally work out of MSIA offices? Is this why they want to build a new building?
The entire thing is very dodgy and less than transparent, and quite manipulative.
It appears that David Allen found a GTD follower who works for WIRED MAGAZINE, and then figured out how to get a story out in the media, to try and DEFLECT the criticisms of his background and approach.
Is it going to work?
Are the techies going to turn a blind-eye to the facts, and just buy the progaganda?
That article is quite full of propaganda, as it tries to pretend that GTD is just about small behavioral actions, which is literally FALSE. Its about "controlling" your entire life. Not just part of your life, your ENTIRE life and mind.

Notice how Gary Wolf used the word "cult" in his article title, and then reframed the meaning of that word?
Has Gary Wolf now made things even worse for his buddy David Allen?

(below are a few excerpts from the article)
[www.wired.com]

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Getting Things Done Guru David Allen and His Cult of Hyperefficiency

The only thing Allen was allowed to have in his possession at Napa State Hospital was a spoon. "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was pretty accurate," he says of the time he spent as a mental patient, "and Napa was one of the good hospitals."
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These were dangerous years for young men unsure of their authenticity, and one day at a party Allen sat down next to a charismatic liar named Michael Bookbinder. He'd been a Formula One racer and also a paratrooper. He played flamenco guitar and knew karate. His costume included silk shirts with huge collars and puffy sleeves "in the manner of a gay buccaneer," as an acquaintance later recalled. He wore pancake makeup. He was a heroin user.

Bookbinder and Allen became close. Bookbinder taught him karate, and soon Allen was using heroin, too. He left his marriage, abandoned his academic training, and eventually found himself out on the street, practically penniless, "crucified psychically," as he would later put it, "absolutely at the bottom physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually." Worried about the radical change in his behavior, some of Allen's friends had him committed in 1971. At the mental hospital, Allen received stark lessons in simulated obedience. He learned to hide his psychiatric medication under his tongue instead of refusing it or spitting it out, and he studied what the medical staff seemed to want of him, so that they would pronounce him cured. "I made a decision to institute a high state of cooperation with the world again," he says.

After a brief period of hospitalization, he was released. Teaching karate to earn money, Allen struggled to pull his life together. One day, a student told him of receiving assistance from a spiritual master who balanced her aura. Allen sought him out. "In 10 seconds I knew he had something to teach," Allen says. "And in 35 years I haven't yet gotten to the end of it."

The man who put him on a new path was then at the inflection point in a long and varied spiritual enterprise. Roger Hinkins was born during the Depression in a poor mining town in central Utah. By the early '70s he had been introduced to Eckankar by its founder, Paul Twitchell, learned esoteric philosophy from a correspondence course, changed his name to Sri John-Roger, started a series of spiritual seminars, and given up his work as a high school teacher to found a church called the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness. The movement's theology holds that John-Roger is the Mystical Traveler, a benevolent consciousness guiding mankind, who in the past has appeared as Jesus, St. Francis of Assisi, and Abraham Lincoln, among others. Some of the devotees lived in a Los Angeles mansion called the Purple Rose Ashram of the New Age. Allen was, and still is, a minister in the church.

When Allen met him, John-Roger earned money by selling transcripts of the Mystical Traveler's teachings, known as Soul Awareness Discourses. But in 1977, as a general reaction against the more colorful elements of the counterculture set in, he explored new directions. With a devotee named Russell Bishop, John-Roger launched the Insight Seminars, a largely secular program that soon found its way into major US corporations. Insight was not alone in bringing New Age philosophy into corporate training during the next decade. By the mid-'80s many corporate employees were being sent to classes and seminars taught by quasi-religious self-improvement groups like Lifespring, Transformational Technologies, and other branches of what was known, collectively, as the human potential movement. David Allen became an Insight trainer, and by 1983 he was consulting at Lockheed, where he began to filter the powerful techniques of the personal-growth movement through the pragmatic grid of corporate human resources.

That the inventor of their favorite system of personal organization has a decades-long devotion to New Age thinking causes fits of squeamishness among GTD fans. "If indeed GTD was conceived, implemented, and marketed with the intentions of drawing people into the MSIA cult," wrote one member of the popular productivity forum, 43folders.com, "how do we, as conscientious individuals, avoid becoming prey within the trap?" Allen explains that while he won't hide his beliefs, he doesn't want his personal faith confused with the message he has for people today. "The Marriott family supports the Mormon Church," he points out, but nobody refuses to sleep in their hotels.

Of course, a hotel is not an [b:f996ed2b78]installed thought process[/b:f996ed2b78], which is the way Allen describes GTD. Given that users of his system entwine GTD with their daily habits, it's only natural that they would wonder about its antecedents. GTD is pitched to rationalists. Such people tend to be cautious when considering schemes to change their life.
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David Allen - GTD - John-Roger - MSIA - Insight Seminars
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 30, 2007 01:49AM

David Allen has made a comment about the article by Gary Wolf. Its interesting how David Allen talks about Gary Wolf and "intellectual dishonesty"!
Then David Allen engages in his own serious dishonesty by saying its was "40 years ago" which is total bullshit. He visits and follows John-Roger to this very day, all day, everyday. David Allen literally WORSHIPS John-Roger.
Also, David Allen expects Gary Wolf to promote John-Rogers insane beliefs? He mentioned that John-Roger literally believes he is Jesus The Christ and Abe Lincoln, etc.
David Allen also believes that.


(Post by David Allen at his forum)
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I was a bit disappointed that Gary Wolf (the author of the Wired article) rather tackily framed my early adventures and explorations, as well as the work of John-Roger, in such a People-magazine-ish light. There's a bit of intellectual dishonesty in not exploring the content of what I learned in the process, nor examining what J-R actually teaches. And that was almost 40 years ago. Good grief. ...

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David Allen - GTD - John-Roger - MSIA - Insight Seminars
Posted by: SarahL ()
Date: October 01, 2007 11:41PM

I just read through this thread, thank you for all this work, very helpful.

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