Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
bakkagirl
()
Date: July 28, 2018 04:06PM
[www.landmarkworldwide.com]
See my comments in RED.
Considering participating in any personal development program can bring up a lot of questions. Landmark, which is recognized as one of the top leadership and development training program providers in the world, BY WHOM?has been observed by dozens and dozens STOOPIDof top international experts who confirm the scope, safety and effectiveness of Landmark’s program. The following findings and opinions reflect a wide range of research and study by experts in psychology, sociology and religion, and address many of the questions that sometimes arise when one is looking at doing a personal development program:
What do health professionals and educators say about Landmark’s programs?
To date, more than 40,000 health professionals and educators have participated in Landmark’s programs. Let's see the stats!Harris Interactive®, one of the largest and most respected market research firms in the world, Typical hyperbolic language!conducted an independent survey, on behalf of Landmark, of health professionals and educators who have taken Landmark programs. The results show that an overwhelming 94% agree that Landmark’s programs are professionally conducted and provide great value.Let's see the study!
Are Landmark’s programs safe?
Yes. Numerous top experts programs and have independently observed Landmark’s and confirm they are safe. Following is a representative sample of expert opinions from mental health professionals and academics:
An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:
“I did not experience any personal sense of harm, danger, threat of intimidation at any time, and I saw no evidence that anyone else did. In my opinion, there was nothing in The Landmark Forum program that I attended either in its content or the way in which it was conducted, that could be considered as harmful to participants.”Personal anecdote that reflected one man's experience of one program; no due diligence with regard to the experience of other participants, and over time.
Dr. Charles Watson AM, former Chief Health Officer of Western Australia and Executive Dean of Health Sciences at Curtin University said:
“I have personally observed The Landmark Forum and other programs at Landmark. Speaking from my expertise and experience as a medical doctor and former Chief Health Officer, my view is that there is absolutely nothing harmful in Landmark's programs. This conclusion is fully aligned with those of numerous independent studies by top experts."Personal anecdote, and appeal to authority.
Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President of the American Psychological Association, Past President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow, said:
“I did not see any evidence to suggest that any participant of The Landmark Forum would be harmed or would suffer harm in the future.”Personal anecdote, no due diligence.
Are Landmark’s programs psychological in nature?
No.See John Hunter dissertation.
Landmark’s programs are not based in psychology, nor are they in any way psychological in nature. While a representative sample of expert opinions to that effect is provided below, numerous other statements representing similar opinions from mental health professionals and academics can be made available.
An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:
“Landmark Forum Leaders are not, and do not need to be, psychotherapists or psychologists, and the program could in no sense be regarded as psychotherapy or as a part of the discipline of psychology.”Personal anecdote, no due diligence.
Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President of the American Psychological Association, Past President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow, said:
“I observed a Landmark Forum approximately two years ago. I was impressed by the professionalism of the staff that coordinated the meeting. As someone who writes about and teaches psychotherapy, I feel strongly that this educational program is definitely not psychotherapy.”Personal anecdote, no due diligence.
Dr. Christopher Was, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at Kent State University in the U.S., said:
“I have observed numerous Landmark Forums and other Landmark programs. Landmark’s educational system is based on ontological education and established pedagogy versus other programs that may employ psychological or experiential methodologies.”Define "Ontological Education"; pedagogy established by whom?, Erhard/Flores?
Are Landmark’s programs spiritual or religious in nature?
No. Neither Landmark nor its programs are spiritual, religious, or cult-like in any way. This has been confirmed by numerous experts and clergy of different faiths. While a representative sample of expert opinions to that effect is provided below, numerous other statements representing similar opinions from top experts and clergy can be made available.Let's see them!
Paul F. Knitter, Ph.D., Professor of Theology, World Religions and Culture at Union Theological Seminary, stated:
“The facts are clear that Landmark and The Landmark Forum are not a religion or religious in nature, are not contrary to religion and do not interfere with the religious beliefs of participants in The Landmark Forum. The Landmark Forum provides no theology, dogma or doctrine to believe in and follow, there is nothing to worship and there are no practices to repeat. In addition, many participants in The Landmark Forum have reported that their participation in fact enhanced their own religious beliefs and practices. I would strongly state that although the Landmark Forum may produce the results that many religions would affirm, it does so without any kind of religious grounding or framework.”Zen, anyone?
Bishop Otis Charles said:
"As a former Bishop and Dean of the Episcopal Divinity School, I have participated in The Landmark Forum and, while I have never known the program to deal with God, worship, divinity or theology, each person’s religious preference and practice is considered his or her private concern and is completely respected."Personal anecdote.
The late Father Basil Pennington, world renowned spiritual teacher and author, said:
“While The Landmark Forum is not religiously oriented, the full human enlivenment which it brings about leads to the person becoming more lively in the practice of his or her faith.”Speculation
See my comments in RED.
Considering participating in any personal development program can bring up a lot of questions. Landmark, which is recognized as one of the top leadership and development training program providers in the world, BY WHOM?has been observed by dozens and dozens STOOPIDof top international experts who confirm the scope, safety and effectiveness of Landmark’s program. The following findings and opinions reflect a wide range of research and study by experts in psychology, sociology and religion, and address many of the questions that sometimes arise when one is looking at doing a personal development program:
What do health professionals and educators say about Landmark’s programs?
To date, more than 40,000 health professionals and educators have participated in Landmark’s programs. Let's see the stats!Harris Interactive®, one of the largest and most respected market research firms in the world, Typical hyperbolic language!conducted an independent survey, on behalf of Landmark, of health professionals and educators who have taken Landmark programs. The results show that an overwhelming 94% agree that Landmark’s programs are professionally conducted and provide great value.Let's see the study!
Are Landmark’s programs safe?
Yes. Numerous top experts programs and have independently observed Landmark’s and confirm they are safe. Following is a representative sample of expert opinions from mental health professionals and academics:
An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:
“I did not experience any personal sense of harm, danger, threat of intimidation at any time, and I saw no evidence that anyone else did. In my opinion, there was nothing in The Landmark Forum program that I attended either in its content or the way in which it was conducted, that could be considered as harmful to participants.”Personal anecdote that reflected one man's experience of one program; no due diligence with regard to the experience of other participants, and over time.
Dr. Charles Watson AM, former Chief Health Officer of Western Australia and Executive Dean of Health Sciences at Curtin University said:
“I have personally observed The Landmark Forum and other programs at Landmark. Speaking from my expertise and experience as a medical doctor and former Chief Health Officer, my view is that there is absolutely nothing harmful in Landmark's programs. This conclusion is fully aligned with those of numerous independent studies by top experts."Personal anecdote, and appeal to authority.
Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President of the American Psychological Association, Past President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow, said:
“I did not see any evidence to suggest that any participant of The Landmark Forum would be harmed or would suffer harm in the future.”Personal anecdote, no due diligence.
Are Landmark’s programs psychological in nature?
No.See John Hunter dissertation.
Landmark’s programs are not based in psychology, nor are they in any way psychological in nature. While a representative sample of expert opinions to that effect is provided below, numerous other statements representing similar opinions from mental health professionals and academics can be made available.
An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:
“Landmark Forum Leaders are not, and do not need to be, psychotherapists or psychologists, and the program could in no sense be regarded as psychotherapy or as a part of the discipline of psychology.”Personal anecdote, no due diligence.
Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President of the American Psychological Association, Past President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow, said:
“I observed a Landmark Forum approximately two years ago. I was impressed by the professionalism of the staff that coordinated the meeting. As someone who writes about and teaches psychotherapy, I feel strongly that this educational program is definitely not psychotherapy.”Personal anecdote, no due diligence.
Dr. Christopher Was, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at Kent State University in the U.S., said:
“I have observed numerous Landmark Forums and other Landmark programs. Landmark’s educational system is based on ontological education and established pedagogy versus other programs that may employ psychological or experiential methodologies.”Define "Ontological Education"; pedagogy established by whom?, Erhard/Flores?
Are Landmark’s programs spiritual or religious in nature?
No. Neither Landmark nor its programs are spiritual, religious, or cult-like in any way. This has been confirmed by numerous experts and clergy of different faiths. While a representative sample of expert opinions to that effect is provided below, numerous other statements representing similar opinions from top experts and clergy can be made available.Let's see them!
Paul F. Knitter, Ph.D., Professor of Theology, World Religions and Culture at Union Theological Seminary, stated:
“The facts are clear that Landmark and The Landmark Forum are not a religion or religious in nature, are not contrary to religion and do not interfere with the religious beliefs of participants in The Landmark Forum. The Landmark Forum provides no theology, dogma or doctrine to believe in and follow, there is nothing to worship and there are no practices to repeat. In addition, many participants in The Landmark Forum have reported that their participation in fact enhanced their own religious beliefs and practices. I would strongly state that although the Landmark Forum may produce the results that many religions would affirm, it does so without any kind of religious grounding or framework.”Zen, anyone?
Bishop Otis Charles said:
"As a former Bishop and Dean of the Episcopal Divinity School, I have participated in The Landmark Forum and, while I have never known the program to deal with God, worship, divinity or theology, each person’s religious preference and practice is considered his or her private concern and is completely respected."Personal anecdote.
The late Father Basil Pennington, world renowned spiritual teacher and author, said:
“While The Landmark Forum is not religiously oriented, the full human enlivenment which it brings about leads to the person becoming more lively in the practice of his or her faith.”Speculation
Re: Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: July 28, 2018 10:34PM
Questions from someone sitting in the cheap seats.
All these famous names quoted by bakkagirl.
* How many of them were processed through Landmark?
* Were these famous persons processed through Landmark according to the same protocol used on non-famous persons?
* Is there a chance that because they had famous names, trusted names, these
persons were given different treatment via special protocol Landmark uses
on celebrities? As in renowned academics and world famous
spiritual teachers?
Corboy is thinking of Scientology and its special outreach methods towards celebrities.
Questions, just a few questions from a US citizen, questions protected by the First Amendment of the United States of America
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2018 03:12AM by corboy.
All these famous names quoted by bakkagirl.
* How many of them were processed through Landmark?
* Were these famous persons processed through Landmark according to the same protocol used on non-famous persons?
* Is there a chance that because they had famous names, trusted names, these
persons were given different treatment via special protocol Landmark uses
on celebrities? As in renowned academics and world famous
spiritual teachers?
Corboy is thinking of Scientology and its special outreach methods towards celebrities.
Questions, just a few questions from a US citizen, questions protected by the First Amendment of the United States of America
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/29/2018 03:12AM by corboy.
Re: Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
bakkagirl
()
Date: July 28, 2018 11:01PM
Re: Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
bakkagirl
()
Date: July 29, 2018 01:14AM
Addendum to previous post:
"An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:"
The APA is managed by a "President", not a "CEO".
[www.apa.org]
"An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:"
The APA is managed by a "President", not a "CEO".
[www.apa.org]
Re: Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
kdag
()
Date: July 29, 2018 04:24AM
bakkagirl mentioned John Hunter's dissertation. Here they are. These are long reads:
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This second one is shorter, and will automatically download if you click on the link.
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This second one is shorter, and will automatically download if you click on the link.
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Re: Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
bakkagirl
()
Date: July 29, 2018 06:32AM
corboy,
I have rethought my response.
Given the number of LGAT's operating in the U.S. and the consistency of their approach, which seems to include the use of a standard set of hooks, the use of the name 'Harvard', or other tone'y university studies, the use of the APA's brand, I am thinking that the cited authorities could be in collusion with the culties.
Reputable scholars and clinicians really DO NOT like their names being attached to cheesy enterprises like LGAT's. All it takes is a phone call, or a letter from an attorney. That these individuals and institutions allow their names to be used in this way is quite shocking, when you think about it.
bakkagirl
I have rethought my response.
Given the number of LGAT's operating in the U.S. and the consistency of their approach, which seems to include the use of a standard set of hooks, the use of the name 'Harvard', or other tone'y university studies, the use of the APA's brand, I am thinking that the cited authorities could be in collusion with the culties.
Reputable scholars and clinicians really DO NOT like their names being attached to cheesy enterprises like LGAT's. All it takes is a phone call, or a letter from an attorney. That these individuals and institutions allow their names to be used in this way is quite shocking, when you think about it.
bakkagirl
Re: Landmark's representations about the Safety and Efficacy of their Programs
Posted by:
ajinajan
()
Date: April 06, 2019 12:10AM
bakkagirl Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> [www.landmarkworldwide.com]
>
> See my comments in RED.
>
> Considering participating in any personal
> development program can bring up a lot of
> questions. Landmark, which is recognized as
> one of the top leadership and development training
> program providers in the world, BY
> WHOM?has been observed by dozens and
> dozens STOOPIDof
> top international experts who confirm the scope,
> safety and effectiveness of Landmark’s program.
> The following findings and opinions reflect
> a wide range of research and study by experts in
> psychology, sociology and religion, and address
> many of the questions that sometimes arise when
> one is looking at doing a personal development
> program:
>
>
> What do health professionals and educators say
> about Landmark’s programs?
>
> To date, more than 40,000 health
> professionals and educators have participated in
> Landmark’s programs. Let's
> see the stats!Harris Interactive®,
> one of the largest and most respected market
> research firms in the world,
> Typical hyperbolic
> language!conducted an independent
> survey, on behalf of Landmark, of health
> professionals and educators who have taken
> Landmark programs. The results show that an
> overwhelming 94% agree that Landmark’s programs
> are professionally conducted and provide great
> value.Let's see the
> study!
>
> Are Landmark’s programs safe?
>
> Yes. Numerous top experts
> programs and have independently observed
> Landmark’s and confirm they are safe.
> Following is a representative sample of expert
> opinions from mental health professionals and
> academics:
>
> An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO
> of the American Psychological Association, in an
> independent report (PDF), which reflected his
> personal opinion, stated:
>
> “I did not experience any personal sense of
> harm, danger, threat of intimidation at any time,
> and I saw no evidence that anyone else did. In my
> opinion, there was nothing in The Landmark Forum
> program that I attended either in its content or
> the way in which it was conducted, that could be
> considered as harmful to
> participants.”Personal
> anecdote that reflected one man's experience of
> one program; no due diligence with regard to the
> experience of other participants, and over
> time.
>
> Dr. Charles Watson AM, former Chief Health Officer
> of Western Australia and Executive Dean of Health
> Sciences at Curtin University said:
>
> “I have personally observed The Landmark
> Forum and other programs at Landmark. Speaking
> from my expertise and experience as a medical
> doctor and former Chief Health Officer, my view is
> that there is absolutely nothing harmful in
> Landmark's programs. This conclusion is fully
> aligned with those of numerous independent studies
> by top experts."Personal
> anecdote, and appeal to authority.
>
> Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President
> of the American Psychological Association, Past
> President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in
> Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior
> Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow,
> said:
>
> “I did not see any evidence to suggest that
> any participant of The Landmark Forum would be
> harmed or would suffer harm in the
> future.”Personal anecdote,
> no due diligence.
>
> Are Landmark’s programs psychological in nature?
>
> No.See John Hunter
> dissertation.
>
> Landmark’s programs are not based in psychology,
> nor are they in any way psychological in nature.
> While a representative sample of expert opinions
> to that effect is provided below, numerous other
> statements representing similar opinions from
> mental health professionals and academics can be
> made available.
>
> An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the
> American Psychological Association, in an
> independent report (PDF), which reflected
> his personal opinion, stated:
>
> “Landmark Forum Leaders are not, and do not
> need to be, psychotherapists or psychologists, and
> the program could in no sense be regarded as
> psychotherapy or as a part of the discipline of
> psychology.”Personal
> anecdote, no due diligence.
>
> Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President
> of the American Psychological Association, Past
> President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in
> Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior
> Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow,
> said:
>
> “I observed a Landmark Forum approximately
> two years ago. I was impressed by the
> professionalism of the staff that coordinated the
> meeting. As someone who writes about and teaches
> psychotherapy, I feel strongly that this
> educational program is definitely not
> psychotherapy.”Personal
> anecdote, no due diligence.
>
> Dr. Christopher Was, Ph.D., Associate Professor of
> Educational Psychology at Kent State University in
> the U.S., said:
>
> “I have observed numerous Landmark Forums
> and other Landmark programs. Landmark’s
> educational system is based on ontological
> education and established pedagogy versus other
> programs that may employ psychological or
> experiential
> methodologies.”Define
> "Ontological Education"; pedagogy established by
> whom?, Erhard/Flores?
>
> Are Landmark’s programs spiritual or religious in
> nature?
>
> No. Neither Landmark nor its programs are
> spiritual, religious, or cult-like in any way.
> This has been confirmed by numerous experts
> and clergy of different faiths.
> While a representative sample of expert
> opinions to that effect is provided below,
> numerous other statements representing similar
> opinions from top experts and clergy can be made
> available.Let's see
> them!
>
> Paul F. Knitter, Ph.D., Professor of Theology,
> World Religions and Culture at Union Theological
> Seminary, stated:
>
> “The facts are clear that Landmark
> and The Landmark Forum are not a religion or
> religious in nature, are not contrary to religion
> and do not interfere with the religious beliefs of
> participants in The Landmark Forum. The
> Landmark Forum provides no theology, dogma or
> doctrine to believe in and follow, there is
> nothing to worship and there are no practices to
> repeat. In addition, many participants in
> The Landmark Forum have reported that their
> participation in fact enhanced their own religious
> beliefs and practices. I would strongly state
> that although the Landmark Forum may produce the
> results that many religions would affirm, it does
> so without any kind of religious grounding or
> framework.”Zen, anyone?
>
> Bishop Otis Charles said:
>
> "As a former Bishop and Dean of the
> Episcopal Divinity School, I have participated in
> The Landmark Forum and, while I have never known
> the program to deal with God, worship, divinity or
> theology, each person’s religious preference and
> practice is considered his or her private concern
> and is completely
> respected."Personal
> anecdote.
>
> The late Father Basil Pennington, world renowned
> spiritual teacher and author, said:
>
> “While The Landmark Forum is not religiously
> oriented, the full human enlivenment which it
> brings about leads to the person becoming more
> lively in the practice of his or her
> faith.”Speculation
UPI ARCHIVES AUG. 19, 1983
'Est' death puzzles family and police
[www.upi.com]
Could this have been in response to this death in an EST training?
The family of a man who collapsed and died during a self-awareness seminar run by Werner Erhard Associates says the 26-year-old victim apparently was in good health before he attended the private 'est' session.
Jack Slee, 26, of Montville, passed out and died Sunday just hours after another seminar participant blacked out in the same meeting room in the Park Plaza Hotel.
-------------------------------------------------------
> [www.landmarkworldwide.com]
>
> See my comments in RED.
>
> Considering participating in any personal
> development program can bring up a lot of
> questions. Landmark, which is recognized as
> one of the top leadership and development training
> program providers in the world, BY
> WHOM?has been observed by dozens and
> dozens STOOPIDof
> top international experts who confirm the scope,
> safety and effectiveness of Landmark’s program.
> The following findings and opinions reflect
> a wide range of research and study by experts in
> psychology, sociology and religion, and address
> many of the questions that sometimes arise when
> one is looking at doing a personal development
> program:
>
>
> What do health professionals and educators say
> about Landmark’s programs?
>
> To date, more than 40,000 health
> professionals and educators have participated in
> Landmark’s programs. Let's
> see the stats!Harris Interactive®,
> one of the largest and most respected market
> research firms in the world,
> Typical hyperbolic
> language!conducted an independent
> survey, on behalf of Landmark, of health
> professionals and educators who have taken
> Landmark programs. The results show that an
> overwhelming 94% agree that Landmark’s programs
> are professionally conducted and provide great
> value.Let's see the
> study!
>
> Are Landmark’s programs safe?
>
> Yes. Numerous top experts
> programs and have independently observed
> Landmark’s and confirm they are safe.
> Following is a representative sample of expert
> opinions from mental health professionals and
> academics:
>
> An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO
> of the American Psychological Association, in an
> independent report (PDF), which reflected his
> personal opinion, stated:
>
> “I did not experience any personal sense of
> harm, danger, threat of intimidation at any time,
> and I saw no evidence that anyone else did. In my
> opinion, there was nothing in The Landmark Forum
> program that I attended either in its content or
> the way in which it was conducted, that could be
> considered as harmful to
> participants.”Personal
> anecdote that reflected one man's experience of
> one program; no due diligence with regard to the
> experience of other participants, and over
> time.
>
> Dr. Charles Watson AM, former Chief Health Officer
> of Western Australia and Executive Dean of Health
> Sciences at Curtin University said:
>
> “I have personally observed The Landmark
> Forum and other programs at Landmark. Speaking
> from my expertise and experience as a medical
> doctor and former Chief Health Officer, my view is
> that there is absolutely nothing harmful in
> Landmark's programs. This conclusion is fully
> aligned with those of numerous independent studies
> by top experts."Personal
> anecdote, and appeal to authority.
>
> Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President
> of the American Psychological Association, Past
> President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in
> Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior
> Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow,
> said:
>
> “I did not see any evidence to suggest that
> any participant of The Landmark Forum would be
> harmed or would suffer harm in the
> future.”Personal anecdote,
> no due diligence.
>
> Are Landmark’s programs psychological in nature?
>
> No.See John Hunter
> dissertation.
>
> Landmark’s programs are not based in psychology,
> nor are they in any way psychological in nature.
> While a representative sample of expert opinions
> to that effect is provided below, numerous other
> statements representing similar opinions from
> mental health professionals and academics can be
> made available.
>
> An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the
> American Psychological Association, in an
> independent report (PDF), which reflected
> his personal opinion, stated:
>
> “Landmark Forum Leaders are not, and do not
> need to be, psychotherapists or psychologists, and
> the program could in no sense be regarded as
> psychotherapy or as a part of the discipline of
> psychology.”Personal
> anecdote, no due diligence.
>
> Dr. Danny Wedding, Ph.D., MPH, Division President
> of the American Psychological Association, Past
> President of the Assoc. of Psychologists in
> Academic Health Centers, Former Fulbright Senior
> Scholar and APA Congressional Science Fellow,
> said:
>
> “I observed a Landmark Forum approximately
> two years ago. I was impressed by the
> professionalism of the staff that coordinated the
> meeting. As someone who writes about and teaches
> psychotherapy, I feel strongly that this
> educational program is definitely not
> psychotherapy.”Personal
> anecdote, no due diligence.
>
> Dr. Christopher Was, Ph.D., Associate Professor of
> Educational Psychology at Kent State University in
> the U.S., said:
>
> “I have observed numerous Landmark Forums
> and other Landmark programs. Landmark’s
> educational system is based on ontological
> education and established pedagogy versus other
> programs that may employ psychological or
> experiential
> methodologies.”Define
> "Ontological Education"; pedagogy established by
> whom?, Erhard/Flores?
>
> Are Landmark’s programs spiritual or religious in
> nature?
>
> No. Neither Landmark nor its programs are
> spiritual, religious, or cult-like in any way.
> This has been confirmed by numerous experts
> and clergy of different faiths.
> While a representative sample of expert
> opinions to that effect is provided below,
> numerous other statements representing similar
> opinions from top experts and clergy can be made
> available.Let's see
> them!
>
> Paul F. Knitter, Ph.D., Professor of Theology,
> World Religions and Culture at Union Theological
> Seminary, stated:
>
> “The facts are clear that Landmark
> and The Landmark Forum are not a religion or
> religious in nature, are not contrary to religion
> and do not interfere with the religious beliefs of
> participants in The Landmark Forum. The
> Landmark Forum provides no theology, dogma or
> doctrine to believe in and follow, there is
> nothing to worship and there are no practices to
> repeat. In addition, many participants in
> The Landmark Forum have reported that their
> participation in fact enhanced their own religious
> beliefs and practices. I would strongly state
> that although the Landmark Forum may produce the
> results that many religions would affirm, it does
> so without any kind of religious grounding or
> framework.”Zen, anyone?
>
> Bishop Otis Charles said:
>
> "As a former Bishop and Dean of the
> Episcopal Divinity School, I have participated in
> The Landmark Forum and, while I have never known
> the program to deal with God, worship, divinity or
> theology, each person’s religious preference and
> practice is considered his or her private concern
> and is completely
> respected."Personal
> anecdote.
>
> The late Father Basil Pennington, world renowned
> spiritual teacher and author, said:
>
> “While The Landmark Forum is not religiously
> oriented, the full human enlivenment which it
> brings about leads to the person becoming more
> lively in the practice of his or her
> faith.”Speculation
UPI ARCHIVES AUG. 19, 1983
'Est' death puzzles family and police
[www.upi.com]
Could this have been in response to this death in an EST training?
The family of a man who collapsed and died during a self-awareness seminar run by Werner Erhard Associates says the 26-year-old victim apparently was in good health before he attended the private 'est' session.
Jack Slee, 26, of Montville, passed out and died Sunday just hours after another seminar participant blacked out in the same meeting room in the Park Plaza Hotel.
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