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bcfreeman

For me years there has always been and always will be a dialogue going on in the organization about “attrition”. Why is it that many do not stay involved and active?” Personally, when I was a chapter president, I didn’t bother wasting my time on whether or not someone wanted to stay with the local organization. Whatever their reasons was ok with me. I was only concerned with those who wanted to be active and invovled.
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ILike2WatchTV
Let's face it people he can not, will not share that kind of information otherwise it would steal or spoil the magic of the work the men do. Or, perhaps he will. I find it interesting that the members are as secretive as what they are. Surprised they haven't been more moles infiltrating their group to report to the outside what really goes on. If I were a male I probably would. In fact, would consider it for the woman's within thingy.

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omeleteagle
The reason for the individual not taking a stand against MKP is quite simple. They know, having being involved up to a certain point that some of what goes on is very good and useful to themselves and others. They will also have made friends and even occassionally relationships in the group.

Frankly, I'm afraid of retaliation as these people are very influential in the community - money rules unfortunately.

The individual who doesn't fit is seldom told this and unless they are very hard nosed and oblivious to the contempt of the in crowd they rarely last long.

Yeah, as a leader in training, I was given glowing reviews - never received any warnings or offers for the help that they asserted I needed - just let me know I was no longer welcomed.


you also get individuals who dont take no for an answer and speak their mind. This is a funnier piece to watch as the organisation doesn't know what to do when a lone voice does its own thing without fear of censure. Some men will on principal support the lone crusader and other will viciously attack and attempt to crucify, this sometimes backfires as a man of principal , on being attacked by those with none is a very dangerous beast.

This is my ex - narcissitic and sociopathic and moving up through the ranks. In talking with people in the community, he's either loved or hated - very black and white. He NEVER takes no for an answer - very entitled.


Some people have come on here and given you really good information, stuff I know to be true and you have lambasted them as trouble makers, this is a bad move, you can do it to me if you like but it wont alter what I think or say, either on here or elswhere.


In a given situation if he is found out to have behaved incorrectly or against the rules he will fabricate, exagerate, be vague and generally work to undermine your position even though you are uttering indisputable facts, he is indeed one of lifes leading losers as he thinks he has found the holy grail when in reality he has just found a way to prolong his own Walter Mitty type agonising existence. The more I think about it the more it stinks.

YEP!

People dont like to sink the ship that thought them how to sail even if when they fell overboard in a storm nobody rescued them or even launched the life raft and no the captain wasnot drunk at the wheel, if he was he might have launched the rescue boat!

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bigboyx5
I see the Scinto lawsuit has been settled, and at the request of the MKP, sealed. However, some of the details were revealed prior to being sealed. Unfortunately I doubt if the MKP in houston or anywhere else has any intention of adhering to it.

Anything new from anyone else?

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SeekingTruth
There's a lot of thruth in this:

[www.culteducation.com]

Inside the head of a new cult member
New Statesman/June 30, 2008

By Allen Tate Wood

Allen Tate Wood, a counselor who specialises in the mental and spiritual rehabilitation of former cult members, explains the process by which cults recruit new blood.

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The goal of cult psycho-technology is the production of a series of peak experiences designed to make an impression on new recruits. For many cult members, these behaviorally and environmentally induced "spiritual experiences" lead from a healthy, open and questioning attitude to a complete regression into dependence and reliance on the cult group.

These experiences, occurring often as they do within the highly charged, tightly controlled atmosphere of the cult, are not subjected to the kind critical scrutiny that they ordinarily would be. Instead they are metabolized and socialized within the language and doctrine of the cult. They are the occasion for increased approval from the group. Phenomenologically speaking, they initiate the "divine history" of the individual, and they reinforce the history and mythology of the group. What is perceived as a flash of illumination and liberation becomes, in fact, the first step in a march toward moral slavery and psychological bondage.

The successfully socialized cult member has entered a world in which submission to authority, blind obedience and conformity have supplanted such "outmoded" notions of character formation as the development of self-reliance, the capacity for critical thinking and the need for openness and compassion in human relationships. Successful indoctrination into a destructive cult results in the repudiation of the individual conscience, rejection of one's critical faculties and the colonization of the imagination understood as a supernatural experience.

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