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PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: May 24, 2009 03:14AM

I was "trolling" the web for more ammunition on PSI Seminars and found this recent post. The site is listed below.

PSI unlicensed practice
Respected sir/madam,
I just took the PSI basic last weekend looking for self improvement. Yes, people should learn and grow. Yes, change is hard and you need to come out of your comfort zone. Yes, life isn't want you expected and you've either disappointed yourself or others. Yes, you want to make a difference and awaken the spirit within you. However...don't get caught like Hansel and Gretel...so hungry that they couldn't resist. What's missing in your life? What are you hungry for? Be smart on how you get it. What doesn't look right, smell right, sound right...(however that saying goes) probably isn't right.

1. What kind of legitimate education course runs till midnight on Thur and Fri? Then have you come back full day Sat and Sun? Think about it.

2. What kind of course asks you to pay $500 -$700 but won't tell you what it's all about. You're not going to the movies. You won't find good surprises here, although you'll be lured into thinking so. Instead, you'll come back with problems you never knew you had. I don't call that a surprise...and it's not the right kind of personal insight either. There are better ways.

3. If there are negative blogs all over the net regarding this seminar doesn't it ring alarm bells? Keep surfing; get enough info to make an informed decision. I spent over 8hrs finding loads of info, unfortunately only after I went to the basic. Be smart! If you still decide you'd like to go. What price are you willing to pay? Not financially but cognitively. Would you open your mind to someone who isn't even a licensed practioner? I was there...I don't care if it's hypnotism, brainwashing whatever. It's guided imagery where they take you back in time and conjure some of your deepest feelings as a kid. I think the practice is beneficial but not done in a group setting by some facilitator! Even if you go in there thinking you're smart with no issues and you're all happy, they won't get you...well be very careful. My happy go lucky friends who were satisfied with life came out wanting more. The facilitator will want you to be in the now, be open, listen, get your money's worth. And everyone else around you is getting so much out of it. Don't feel that you have to get it. That's when they'll get you. The countless exercises will get you. The meditation, the voice of the narrator, the dim lights, the imagery will get you. And most importantly, do not get suckered into signing up for the next course on the last day (Sunday). $6000 is not cheap.

Ever heard of buyer's remorse? You can get quality education (Universities - continuing education programs), enlightment, and practitioners for that kind of money. Get it from the right people. I don't know what it's called or what it is but I notice that my feelings are now somehow attached to that seminar. I can hear the facilitators voice in my head to keep my word, don't be a victim, be a contributor, it's not for everyone, it's my choice, speak from the "I", "What other people think is none of my business", don't be a sand wasp, conditioning/ programs, 100% intention, win-win...oh did they every distort this philosophy.

And the peace of mind model...??? Take a close look at it. Does it make any sense? What does career and financial have anything to do with mental? There are other models out there. Take only what make sense to you. I'm the type of person who reads the stuff online but won't contribute whether good or bad. However this time, I think it's really important to not be passive, please please share your thoughts for all to hear. Get the word around...ya, they got me motivated alright...to shut them down! Believe what you want. According to them, I'm creating a story and seeing only what I want to see. I'm not asking you to justify my story. What you think it none of my business. However be open, you don't know what you don't know...and if you're having doubts about this program...you know more than you think you do. Think it through...I’m not your obstacle or your negative support group. Just remember the Nightingale fairy tale.

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: June 18, 2009 12:22AM

This was just posted on another site: I didn't get the reference to "The possibility that you could be potentially a dirt bag hasn't been discussed." But again another PSI grad steps forward and denounces PSI SEMINARS.

the Demons
"It is my belief that the company as a whole has some positive aspects. After having completed the Basic I did leave with a higher plane of awareness. Some of this has to do with me being aware of how they were trying to negatively manipulate me. I did enjoy my facilitators ability to call me out on my BS. For some this can be a monumental discovery of their true self, or it could be an embarrassing moment that leaves them traumatized. This duality is has not been addressed properly.

There is nothing new to what is taught. I had learned most of what was presented at the seminar during college. The major dilemma has to do with some large jumps in logic that are made. Usually these large leaps are attributed to 'universal laws'. None of which are properly explained. I felt like i was back in church all over again. These laws create shortcuts to thinking. It is always a program, or that we are operating from victim. The worst thing about psi is the rhetoric they use. The high pressure selling tactics are not endearing at all, either. The use of psi grads to recruit new members is the most appalling thing about the organization. There may be truth in owning up to ones actions, but it is exploded into an excuse to disqualify someone's opinion.

Overall, i can see how good can come from the company. It is most definitely not for me. I can see how it can potentially ruin marriages, and strain families as the self is exploded and the rest of the world is tuned out.

although one major trend on this site are individuals whose relationship failed, soon after their significant other got involved with the company. The possibility that you could be potentially a dirt bag hasn't been discussed. This may not be the case but it definitely looks like a possibility.

ultimately, do your homework before signing up. unfortunately PSI figured out that it is easier to have someone sign up while at the the event. once the papers are signed, one loses their ability to back out or do research. So it seems like once you realize what you actually signed up for it is too late."

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: June 28, 2009 01:41AM

Found this on another blog:

Written by Kevin, on 26-06-2009 14:30

Tom Willhite, Jack Rosenberg a.k.a. Werner Erhard, a used car salesman from Philadelphia, et. al. all stole from Alexander Everett. Tom got his ideas from William Penn Patrick, a crook from North Carolina who was indicted for running a pyramid scheme called Holiday Magic. The property (High Valley Ranch) was auctioned off by the government.

PSI is anti-God in that they believe everone is their own God. Therefore, any heinous acts done such as not refunding money, breaking up marriages, and manipulating one's mind are ALL OK. Tom stole his Vision, from page 158 in the manuscripts, from the hermetic philosophy.

There is a dark eerie (demonic)feeling at the Ranch of PSI World in Clearlake Oaks. Jane chews them up then spits them out when they no longer produce and bring in paying heads either at the city level or the Ranch level. There is a pseudo joy found there, not a real joy given by God.

The PSI facilitators make fun of these poor paying saps right in front of their faces and make them believe that they are causing their downfall. Many are because they are vulnerable people who shell out their money to attend while looking for help from the outside.

Funny thing is, both Tom and WPP died at High Valley Ranch, 10 years apart in their own airplane crashes.

All of the Willhites have been living high off of the hog from the PSI gravy train for years. They have a good gig going there.

All of the Willhites live in the high rent districts of any area they choose by using poor saps money. They all have big screen TVs, pools, planes, etc. Jenessa went to USC. She didn't go to the local junior college.

There are copies of TDW's manuscripts online or from book dealers. Read it for yourself. It is mediocre writing at best with many inconsistancies. But the worst thing of all is that it tells the same line as was told in the Garden of Eden, "YOU ARE GOD." If that was so, why didn't Tom resurrect himself after the crash?

That is why people do unscrupulous acts upon their return from the Ranch. They may have come under demonic activity and they are not knowledgable enough in the Word to know the difference or deflect it.

Take it from a former, now repetant , Lord Knowing, facilitator. ~ K.

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: June 29, 2009 11:34PM

1. Written by Chuck, on 25-06-2009 23:52

JohnL Look on page 166 in Thomas Willhite's manuscripts. This is the leather bound book one gets when one attends PSI 7. Tom writes, 'You Are God.' The poor man was terribly misguided. He grew up Catholic, didn't know scipture, rode with the Hells Angels, met and married Jane (a Holiday Girl), and bught into the philosophy that "we all our own gods." This leads to selfish behavior. It is very interesting to note that this passage of "You are the universe. You are God," Is omitted from the verbal CD version of this book. There is a gap, just like in Nixon's tapes. Food For Thought.

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: July 21, 2009 07:37AM

I found this on another site and laughed my ass off. Does anyone know if the PSI office in LA really closed down? Looking at this post is appears there is alot of back biting. Too bad (NOT!!!!) Here's hoping that PSI goes down the crapper!!!!! That is what I am visualizing (funny huh?).

"PSI Seminars
Posted: 2009-07-18 by dmloera

Jan Kempton
Complaint Rating: 0 % with 0 votes
Company information:
PSI Seminars
11650 High Valley Road, Clearwater, CA 95423
Los Angeles, California
United States
Phone: (707) 998-2222
psiseminars.com

DO NOT TRUST JAN KEMPTON. She took private conversations I had with her an twisted them into a bunch of lies and then embleished those lies into severe allegations against my husband without having any validity or verification - because they are all lies.

Jan is the Los Angeles Basic Coordinator - No wonder the LA office was shut down. No wonder PSI's legal council is denying she is an employ of their company.

Jan's accusing my husband of being unfit around children, when her own boyfriend looks at porn and her husband looks at porn and has hired hookers! Maybe we should be more concerned with the environment her little girl is living in...hmmm. Also this is the greatest form of hypocracy since Jan had her own sons taken away from her by the courts for being such an UNFIT MOTHER. Her son still won't speak to her because of how UNFIT SHE IS. How dare she say anything about anyone else.

Questioning my character and calling me a drunk - Screw you Jan. You were homeless at one point in your life. I'll make sure my attorneys crawl up your history to see if you've ever had a drink or drugs.

Funny how you judge and gossip about me and yet you question my character. If you had concerns regarding me you should have just picked up the phone and addressed them with me. But no, instead you say these filthy things about me. What did I personally ever do to you????????

All of this coming from an employee that works for the seminar that teaches "win-win", "givers gain", "agape love", "see people in their greatness". Jan you're a hypocrite."

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: dmloera ()
Date: July 21, 2009 08:11AM

Steve989,

I'll be more than happy to join you in that vision. To answer your question YES - the LA office did close down. But then again when Jan Kempton gets to throw her tempter tantrum whenever she wants - are you surprised.

I spoke with their "In House Legal Council" Jessi and he told me that Jan and Gregg are technically no longer employees of the company - they are strictly commission based..AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA.

Yeah - enrollments are down, they only had two people staffing the last Basic but hey Jan keep running your mouth = WIN-WIN!

Steve989 - I'm just going to kick back and watch the Karma Train drive on by.....

Have a great one!

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: July 22, 2009 08:53AM

The LA office is CLOSED!!!!! Gee, that’s too bad. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of rip off artists.

Thanks for the up-date dmloera. You need to post more of what goes on on the inside of the PSI Dream Machine. People need to know they are ruining their lives with this crap.

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: psilock ()
Date: July 23, 2009 10:34AM

I went to the basic this last weekend. I've never been so appalled in my life. my dear sister in law has gone thru to psi7. it has positivly affected her in that she has pushed herself and released an EP and is working hard on a full length album. but, she plans on spending the proceeds for WLS.
I felt so strongly against what they were doing that I gathered many of the posts found on here and other sites into a couple pamphlets that I brought to the 'guest event' this very night.
I ended up being confronted by my sister in law and had a light argument. "you're cheating people of the experience", "you're discounting the changes in my life". I made sure she knew i was doing this for her. some higher ups butted in and removed her from making any comments and began painting me as negative support. i brought my brother along and he was aside of this debate, so i left and proceeded to dump as many of the pamphlets i had left, then had them swiped from me and was shown the door.
I'm unsure where to go from here, and I'm almost positive that she will be told not to talk to me as i will be an 'unsupportive' influence in her new psi life.

the suppression of information is ridiculous. i hope many people saw and heard me get kicked out.

I saw many people reading the pamphlets, so i seem to have spread enough. I've done what i can for now.

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: psilock ()
Date: July 24, 2009 03:28AM

I've heard only ten people signed up for the next basic

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Re: PSI Seminars UNLICENSED Practice
Posted by: Steve989 ()
Date: July 24, 2009 10:07AM

Good work psilock. Sorry about your sister-in-law. I hope things work out for all of you but don't be surprised it this causes a serious rift in the family for a while.

Ten people is a small showing as there was probably two hundred people dragged to the graduation. Too bad PSI is now losing money (NOT!!!!!!)

It might help if you posted here how this changed her.

Keep us informed and keep up the good work.

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