There is a thread discussion on a secret install the guru in your body meditation that was practiced in SYDA yoga, years back. Something like this could lead people to become very protective of such a person, even if years later, they find the person did not act in their best interests and failed to reciprocate their devotion.
This is not confined to SYDA yoga, BTW. Ive read of visualization practices used by quite ancient traditions. The problem is, they have to be prescribed with the utmost care or they can easily foster regression and non spiritual merger with whoever is the focus of the exercise, the way any potent healing medicine can turn poisonous if prescribed to the wrong person or at excessively high dosages.
Anything powerful enough to heal can, if improperly used harm. Spirituality is not exempt from this.
This being said, here is a thread worth reading, just in case it has clues for RW refugees that would be invisible to a non RW person such as myself. The entire three page thread is worth reading, IMO. I wish more people could contribute insights because I think this is a very neglected area of research. It was easy to attend EST and Lifespring, and anyone could have learned a number of 'tools'.
And NLP courses are still easy to find. Too easy.
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Read the long item posted here on this thread-- July 21, 2008 09:55AM
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Install the guru in your body meditation?
for real?!
Did the SYDA people use the word "install" or was that added later?
Because that is a phrase right out of NLP-hypnosis modeling.
"Install the X in your body".
Just substitute the word INDUCTION for "meditation".
"Install the Guru in your body (hypnotic) Induction".
That is flat-out hypnotic engineering out of NLP. (NLP is just a technical and systematic way to model-copy anything).
To take the image of the Guru and INSTALL it in the BODY, is incredibly powerful. And that does not go away quickly, it can sit there for many years, if not permanently, if you don't get it out.
That is very profound. If people went through that type of deep hypnotic conditioning, and then just walked away from Gurumayi, they would feel a deep hole in their psyche. And they would run and plug that emotional hole with someone like X , or whomever.
Put it this way.
If SYDA used the word "Install" you can be assured that they hired some of the senior NLP of the time to come in and design some processes for them to use on people. They would have taken an old practice of people visualizing their Guru in their chakra's, or whatever, which is ancient.
But the NLP people come in, and spend a few weeks studying it in great detail, and then they shrink it down to its essentials, and come up with something like...INSTALL THE GURU IN YOUR BODY.
They write it into a MANUAL, like they did with countless other things. (I bet we could find out who wrote this NLP program, could have been Robert Dilts as he was into that, even writing a manual on the Cognitive Patterns of Jesus of Nazareth). [www.nlpu.com]
The word INSTALL is very specific. Its designed to become part of the person.
That comes out of the software world, which Richard Bandler was involved in. (you "Install" a software program).
and meditation is just another word for hypnosis.
So it becomes...
Install the Guru in the Body hypnotic Induction.
Does anyone know if SYDA used the word INSTALL?
Also, X uses similar but more refined techniques, as she tries to "fuse" with your identity, not in the mere body, but in your very concepts of self.
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Gurumayi, leader of SYDA yoga, has not been seen in public for the past 5 years..about 2003.
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One former member reveals that those who took a month long SDYA intensive were actually at one point trained to internalize Gurumayi (an abusive woman for whom appearances and beautiful clothes were everything)--internalize this guru within thier own bodies.
In the words of psychotherapy, to make Gurumayi their maternal introject. [www.ex-cult.org]
The secret—install the guru in your body meditation.
Written by The Anticult on July 19, 2008 08:45AM--in the context of a discussion on the Byron Katie thread
To repeat:
I was not in RW so I have no idea what forms of meditation you all would have been taught.
But if any of it included practices resembling this--that is to say, internalizing the image of the guru--and especially if kept secret, it might well be hard to free oneself of lingering effects.
And...the effects might??? be re-triggered (in computer use terms, 'refreshed' if one has pictures in ones house of the person whose image you were trained to internalize using the method described above.
Two, do a search on the RR.com message board for material I have cited on other threads from an article by psychoanalyst Stanley Rosenman. This may also offer some helpful clues and insights.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2009 01:35AM by corboy.