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carolz
Why I ask is that a friend belongs, and some of his behavior is unsettling. For example, the organization requires him to put it ahead of his family's needs. He "had to" send out emails and occupy the phone when his wife needed to call their baby's doctor because she was spiking a fever. The emails were more important than the health of the child. In addition, his wife reports to me that she knows someone at work whose ex-husband was involved, and that involvement resulted in their divorce.
That is unsettling. ANy group that asks that of it's members is questionable.
I have known several people who have gone to MKP's Warrior Weekend (including myself) and they have not gone to any other function, or felt like they needed to be part of the group. The weekend is interesting (to be sure!) and you learn and talk about things you wouldn't normally talk about with other men.
I will tell you that your 'friends' experience is odd, since nobody I know (about 3 people) from the 'weekend' does anything with the group since then, and we were not pressured in any way when we chose not to participate in the follow up meetings (mostly due to the time required, just too busy!)
Nobody has ever asked us for money, and given the nature of the people I have spoken with who run the group, I simply don't believe that this 'friend' was TOLD to do these things. I am willing to believe, like all of us, that he made a COMMITMENT to do a mailing by a specific date or time and felt obliged to do it. The story about the baby's fever and such is pretty extreme and I can't help but think it has been 'interpreted'. I wonder about the mans own values where he would even THINK to do one thing over another, especially when his Daughter has a 'fever'. What kind of man would do that?
Not a MKP type man - in MKP family comes first. This whole story is suspect to me because of the EXTREME response of the man given the situation. It sure seems like a story that was 'made' just to PROVE it's a cult - he was brainwashed. It's a little 'too perfect'.
But as I said, this is a second hand story so I suspect if it is TRUE then he may have been a bit obsessive and that's the real reason for his behavior.
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Despite its secular non-sectarian nature, it seems to be no different than Promise Keepers in outlook, attitude (man superior, everyone else inferior), sexism, and degree of life control of its members.
Wow, this commetary is so incorrect. The 'man superior' thinkg especially. The lifetime goal is not to be superior to OTHER PEOPLE, it is to be a superior man in integrity, honesty and family. Isn't that waht men should strive to do anyway? Too many are absent fathers, or indifferent husbands. Sexism? WHere do you hear this crap. In MKP a woman is to be revered for her ability to bear children, and be a strong life partner.
So much information that has been heard here is mis-informed.
MKPO is not a cult, it's a group for men that strives to help us break free of being 'metro-sexual' losers and be the men we were meant to be. Too much of our society is trying to make men in to women. Men are men and need to get back to being in touch with their masculinity.
WHile some of the people who attend the weekends go on to be 'of service', apparently like the guy in this original post, NOBODY I KNOW takes any of it as extremely ad this person apparently did.
I don't go to any meetngs, and I know aout 3 guys who have gone to the weekend who also don't go. Just don't have the interest or the time.
Other than ONE phone call wondering how I was doing after the weekend I have gotten nothing from them, no offers to sell things, no pressure to go to their meetings. nothing. They just don't DO THAT.
I could care less what people think or say about MKW, but I find the 'fear mongering' based on lask of information, or a story about one persons obsessive behavior to be ridiculous. I just told you about 3 p3ople who had a good time and learned a lot - then went back to 'life as usual' without being pursued.
Their weekends are nothing more than a set of workshops for men and some excercises that build confidence, teamwork and a 'rite of passage' event. It was a litle weird at times but afterwards I felt like a new man, as did most of the other men who went.
Cut them some slack, they're just trying to help men find their balls after living in a world where being a 'real man' means metrosexual 'nice guy' who is lost in his own lack of manhood. MKP is just taking some of us into ourselves to re-learn that being a real man means something more.