terror and the children
Date: November 27, 2003 09:21AM
You said:
>>I'm not sure that anyone here is genuinely interested in hearing what I have to say.>>
What you've posted here sounds like it came directly from the
Landmark "textbook." We've heard it all before. In exactly the
same words and phrases you've used. If we were interested
in hearing that, we could pay the money and attend a
Landmark seminar and hear it from the horse's mouth.
>>There seems to be a general concensus among the people that post here that LE is evil, it's hypnotic and about mind control.>>
Yes. Why would that be, do you think?
>>Everything I say is thrown back at me and refuted, even though it's my experience.>>
We are telling you that you have been tricked. One
can be tricked experiencially as easily as intellectually
or emotionally. Ask any magician.
>>You all have your point of view about LE, which is fine. I think it's wrong, but that's just my opinion. But there's no healthy debate or listening here - it's all dogmatic conspiracy theories, scare stories and wild accusations.>>
Do you think there is such a thing as "healthy debate"
when you are discussing your own involvment and
endorsement of a group known for its abuse and
exploitation? Would you want a "healthy debate"
about child or animal abuse? Werner Erhard figured
out a way to abuse adults, so he and his clones can
get away with it. Most people figure adults can take
care of themselves, and if they are tricked, fooled, or
taken advantage of, they deserve it.
>>As far as I'm aware, I am one of the few posters here who's actually completed the Curriculum for Living. I find it amusing - and rather sad at the same time - that so many people have opinions about me, and LE, without having much experience of either.
I don't recal being hostile to anyone, calling anyone a liar, being disrespectful or telling anyone how to live their life. But no matter what I say it seems that I'll be branded a flake.>>
Watch out! Tha Landmark "cops" will get you for that one.
They would say *YOU* ~created~ that, hehehehe.......
If I were a Landmark enthusiast, I would ask you: "Who
are you ~being~ make that happen. Just wait till you
try to explain this, you'll find out what it is you are really
up against. They'll call it *YOUR* ~racket.~
Has it occurred to you that you are defending an immoral and
unethical business that operates in a shadowy and ambiguous
territory between deception and contrivance, manipulation and
the fostering of dependence, cults and pyramid schemes?
>>That is not the ideal situation if you want to have dialogue with someone.>>
That's where you're wrong. Try speaking for yourself
without the Landmark "crutch."
>>I didn't disappear. I just decided there was no point posting any more since no one was interested in listening.>>
You'l lose an audience pretty quickly if you start with
the jargon.
>>I didn't have any project or agenda. It's sad that you see lies everywhere.
For me, posting here was never about "winning" and domination - unlike your good self. It was about balance and discussion.>>
As long as one person is handicapped and suffering
the affliction of a cult involvement, there is no such thing
as what you've stated.
And it's not sad at all to recognize whatever lies exist. It's
a survival advantage. What's sad is not recognizing them.
You end up with counterfeits.
>>I shan't post here again. I'll leave you to your fears and conspiracies and the "cult" of Rick Ross.
Jump on that all you like.
It's all empty and meaningless. >>
So, if you post something, it's "balanced" and a "discussion,"
but whenever something you don't like gets posted, it's
empty and meaningless. Look at what you are depending
on to determine the meaning of things. An uneducated,
unprincipled, used-car salesman/con-artist.
Ellen