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Posted by: midonov123 ()
Date: September 17, 2005 03:59AM

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How else would they suck so many people in?

Using deception and trickery.

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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: September 17, 2005 07:29AM

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u seem to have a tendency to insist that there is something
good in landmark. until u relieve yourself of this way of thinking
i believe u will probably go back again.

Hey, give her a break! She has a right to her opinion. She's done Landmark and you haven't, and if she says she got something good out of it along with the bad, who are you to tell her that her feelings are not valid? Now who's doing the brainwashing?

well just sou know i have done the forum. its all about hypnosis. if u want to know
why people can have such varying ways of being after they leave is because
people are asked in the little program that u go to and i cant remember the
name of it now that is supposed to introduce.....there it is intro to the forum
, they have people write down the three things in life they want the most.
the genies in the religion give their victims their three wishes. its the same thing,
just presented differently.

and after that maybe i was a little harsh. it just bothers me that people can
go to landmark , leave because they show abusive behavior and then come
back for more.


I've never done Landmark but I know a lot of people who have, and all of them say they got a lot out of it too. The only thing that kept them from going back was the ridiculous price of the courses. If it wasn't so damn expensive, I would have checked it out just to see what it's all about.

there u go. u seem to know all about landmark, u have read and still u are thinking
about going. when are people gonna realize they are playing with your head.
they use mind games on u. some people have mental breakdowns because of it.

and now u are doing it

I appreciate this woman's honesty in posting here, because I think she gives a true picture of what goes on in Landmark. Nothing in life is black & white - it's a mix of good and bad


there is no good in landmark. its the hypnosis that makes the people feel so good.
there is nothing good about landmark. yes, people while under their hypnotic
influence will sometimes recall their past, of course when they do that landmark
washes their brains into believing it doesnt mean anything.

many people who have attended landmarks programs feel they have moved
forward in their lives because they feel good. their past which did and still
does have meaning to them has been made by psycological tricks to believe
they have dealt with their issues.

the statement from landmark

.......................the past has no meaning....................................


is a lie.

many people know this is a lie and they say they choose to believe it anyway.
that is why it is called brainwashing.



. If there wasn't SOME good in Landmark's teachings, do you think the pressure & manipulation alone would be enough to make so many people go through the classes?

its the hypnosis, it works. i have never said that people couldnt be hypnotized and that
it wasnt effect , it does work. people of course so many that have problems in
their lives feel so good and they want to recruit and bring their friends. this is
understandable.

landmark give them nothing. they even tell them that and they still will
giggle and laugh and say they got it.

heres an example.

a women is raped repeatedly at the age of 6 say, in landmark they convince thier
victims that their past has no meaning. the hypnosis works and the people
feel good about thermselves.

it really easy to see. if u or me or just about anybody was raped and then
convinced it didnt mean anything then we would feel good too.

there is a draw back to this though.

the people never actually deal with their issues. they just put them in a
far away place in their minds. people can then in the future have
mental breakdowns because they felt so good and then something
happens to bring up those memories and they have nothing and i repeat
nothing to deal with them with.

landmark is trash. landmark is run by trash and landmark should be put
into the trash and burned. this i dont believe will happen.

there is too much money being made for this to happen.

again i want to appolijise for being rather hartsh.

How else would they suck so many people in?

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Posted by: grub ()
Date: September 18, 2005 05:28AM

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a women is raped repeatedly at the age of 6 say, in landmark they convince thier victims that their past has no meaning. the hypnosis works and the people feel good about thermselves.

... and if the woman continues to be emotionally traumatized that's just her racket and she's at fault for making herself a victim.

What BS.

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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: September 18, 2005 06:55AM

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a women is raped repeatedly at the age of 6 say, in landmark they convince thier victims that their past has no meaning. the hypnosis works and the people feel good about thermselves.

... and if the woman continues to be emotionally traumatized that's just her racket and she's at fault for making herself a victim.

What BS.

exactly and if she still continues to be traumatized they work her over.

in the forum i attended jinnendra jain our forum leader told a young woman
that had cancer that if she had come to landmark sooner she would have never
gotten cancer in the first place.

he cut off all her ways of thinking the times they had her up in front of the
group and she eventually was brainwashed by him.

what still astonishes me about the critics of landmark is that they still
believe that landmark has its good points.

there are no good points to an organization that destroys the minds
of its victims. this seems to be so difficult to get through to the
critics.


not all of them of course but so many say there are good points to landmark.

brainwashing by an organization for profit has no good points. even if the
victims feel good about it.

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Posted by: sonnie_dee ()
Date: September 19, 2005 04:13PM

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what still astonishes me about the critics of landmark is that they still believe that landmark has its good points.

I believe this is because if you initally have the exhillaration and the feelings of "everything is going to be great" its hard to then combine that with the later negative reality that descends.

I am now a critic of Landmark Education but I at times think about what I perceived as the positive outcomes in my life. It takes time to change the thought patterns to understand that those positive outcomes would have occurred naturally anyway!

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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: September 20, 2005 05:13AM

and so many people have been like u. that is why it is so difficult to get through
the people that have been in the forum and even to reach those that have
had friends do it. their friends come back and they are so full of energy and
they feel good.

remember they had nothing to give. anything u may feel they gave u
u gave to yourself.

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