Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
wildmind
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Date: January 07, 2007 03:48AM
If it really works, the casino will need to pass a law to ban anyone using the law of attraction.
To do the test properly, you need to keep an open mind or it is not a valid test. Good Luck.
To do the test properly, you need to keep an open mind or it is not a valid test. Good Luck.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
rrmoderator
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Date: January 07, 2007 04:50AM
wildmind:
Are you saying that you actually believe in this "law"?
Are you saying that you actually believe in this "law"?
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
jeannelucille
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Date: January 08, 2007 06:45AM
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wildmind:
Are you saying that you actually believe in this "law"?
Oy vey, a good question!
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
gondolf
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Date: January 09, 2007 02:31AM
"A friend has massive problems with Abraham-Hicks. Any similar experiences?"
I would say this. Anyone who's primary motive seems to be making money, is suspect in my books. That said, some of the books have interesting content. North America seems awash in people telling other people how to make money and the only people making it are those that already are. If these people were really trying to empower other people to have a better life they wouldn't be trademarking all their courses, and trying to turn simple things like creativity seminars into a commodity owned by them.
I would say this. Anyone who's primary motive seems to be making money, is suspect in my books. That said, some of the books have interesting content. North America seems awash in people telling other people how to make money and the only people making it are those that already are. If these people were really trying to empower other people to have a better life they wouldn't be trademarking all their courses, and trying to turn simple things like creativity seminars into a commodity owned by them.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
gondolf
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Date: January 09, 2007 02:44AM
In the original work of Charles Haanel, who first penned the Secret, he makes it clear that service is the key to success with his system, not selfishness and greed.
In the work of Napoleon Hill there is also a strong ethical base - a whole philosophy of life and living that underpins it.
In the work of Napoleon Hill there is also a strong ethical base - a whole philosophy of life and living that underpins it.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
Gulab Jamon
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Date: January 09, 2007 04:44AM
I agree completely with what you wrote, Gondolf. I don't have a problem with the teachings; it's the way the Law of Attraction is currently being marketed and sold.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
gondolf
()
Date: January 12, 2007 06:48AM
"If it really works, the casino will need to pass a law to ban anyone using the law of attraction."
"To do the test properly, you need to keep an open mind or it is not a valid test. Good Luck."
In the original "Secret" two things are made clear. One is there is a difference between your will and the will of the universe (or whatever). When using the law of attraction you are still subject to "the good of the whole," and to the universal mechanism in general. Thus it is unlikely casinos would have to worry because too much winning would probably upset the applecart, ecologically speaking. Then again it might work in small ways since confidence goes a long way in a casino, so I would say it would help, but only help.
Keeping an open mind is essential. Because you have to give things time to work. Rome wasn't built in a day, as the saying goes. Also, as you are relying on the universe to respond to you, you have to be open to the response, and respond accordingly. Law of attraction is a dance, not a dictatorship.
The trend nowadays seems to be on the selfishness and greediness of it when in fact it is a spiritual system designed to understand yourself and the universe more deeply and become a co-operator in the play of life, not a co-opter.
The way of lot of people seem to be approaching the law of attraction is to turn it into a sophisticated, metaphysical way to committ crime - to steal from the pot rather than help the pot grow for the good of all.
"To do the test properly, you need to keep an open mind or it is not a valid test. Good Luck."
In the original "Secret" two things are made clear. One is there is a difference between your will and the will of the universe (or whatever). When using the law of attraction you are still subject to "the good of the whole," and to the universal mechanism in general. Thus it is unlikely casinos would have to worry because too much winning would probably upset the applecart, ecologically speaking. Then again it might work in small ways since confidence goes a long way in a casino, so I would say it would help, but only help.
Keeping an open mind is essential. Because you have to give things time to work. Rome wasn't built in a day, as the saying goes. Also, as you are relying on the universe to respond to you, you have to be open to the response, and respond accordingly. Law of attraction is a dance, not a dictatorship.
The trend nowadays seems to be on the selfishness and greediness of it when in fact it is a spiritual system designed to understand yourself and the universe more deeply and become a co-operator in the play of life, not a co-opter.
The way of lot of people seem to be approaching the law of attraction is to turn it into a sophisticated, metaphysical way to committ crime - to steal from the pot rather than help the pot grow for the good of all.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
mypath
()
Date: January 12, 2007 11:32AM
I have been struggeling with this since I came across Abraham-Hicks years ago. :!: First there are pieces, that make sense, that "you will reap what you sow" and "karma-law" speaks of similar ideas. This is similar to a lot of teachings from other , old religions actually. Only the focus of Abraham-Hicks is, that your focus is on feeling good. :D To accomplish that you think "better feeling thoughts" and you focus only on the best in people or in situations. That all is still a pretty positive statement and is similar to other teachings out there.
What drove me away the first time I came across the teaching was the very clear statement, that in the beginning they did say or "channel", that everybody is responsible for their situations and to stay away from those who are negative or perceived as negative and who would "dragg one down".
They very much insisted, that staying away from anyone who has "created" conditions you do not want is the way to go. There is no aspect of "humanitarian work" or "looking out for each other", because everybody gets what they want according to their teaching.
The others would learn by example and not by getting help or being tended to. :?:
So that really got me on the wrong foot. That and that I have a natural tendency to worry. Mix those two and you know what comes out.
:roll:
Then I joined a church where 75%of the people follow the guidelines of the Abraham-Hicks teaching. I had to deal with it again.
:roll:
I listened to the newest recordings and teachings and realized the "channelings" had gone a little "softer", but still very much looking towards hanging out with "their own kind". The teaching is now no longer called "deliberate creation", but "the art of allowance", because according to Abraham people were taking their thoughts too seriously (oh don't say!).
It has definetley turned into a big machinery with many avenues : Books, cd's, movies,cruises.
My question was always, that there is not really an explanation on a lot of issues (karma, past lives, egos, illnesses of kids etc) and people who go there or listen to the channelings seem to fill in the gaps without having any more explanation. Teachings are handled by one stating a question and Abraham answers. Later then everyone applies what is said to their own life , all based on their interpretations.
The methods they suggest to change your thinking and your energy (the vibe of attraction-law of attraction) really focuses only on one type of people. The methods are not explained well and either you have the ability and get it or you do not.
The people who follow however breathe this teaching into every aspect of their life and just like "regular" church goers judge others on their inability to create or not create.
But all that is not different than any other church or religion out there.
So I am still not clear what to think of them and their "adventure".
I just wish for myself, that I find a way to have fun and make that much money and I hope to never loose my humanitarian outlook.
What drove me away the first time I came across the teaching was the very clear statement, that in the beginning they did say or "channel", that everybody is responsible for their situations and to stay away from those who are negative or perceived as negative and who would "dragg one down".
They very much insisted, that staying away from anyone who has "created" conditions you do not want is the way to go. There is no aspect of "humanitarian work" or "looking out for each other", because everybody gets what they want according to their teaching.
The others would learn by example and not by getting help or being tended to. :?:
So that really got me on the wrong foot. That and that I have a natural tendency to worry. Mix those two and you know what comes out.
:roll:
Then I joined a church where 75%of the people follow the guidelines of the Abraham-Hicks teaching. I had to deal with it again.
:roll:
I listened to the newest recordings and teachings and realized the "channelings" had gone a little "softer", but still very much looking towards hanging out with "their own kind". The teaching is now no longer called "deliberate creation", but "the art of allowance", because according to Abraham people were taking their thoughts too seriously (oh don't say!).
It has definetley turned into a big machinery with many avenues : Books, cd's, movies,cruises.
My question was always, that there is not really an explanation on a lot of issues (karma, past lives, egos, illnesses of kids etc) and people who go there or listen to the channelings seem to fill in the gaps without having any more explanation. Teachings are handled by one stating a question and Abraham answers. Later then everyone applies what is said to their own life , all based on their interpretations.
The methods they suggest to change your thinking and your energy (the vibe of attraction-law of attraction) really focuses only on one type of people. The methods are not explained well and either you have the ability and get it or you do not.
The people who follow however breathe this teaching into every aspect of their life and just like "regular" church goers judge others on their inability to create or not create.
But all that is not different than any other church or religion out there.
So I am still not clear what to think of them and their "adventure".
I just wish for myself, that I find a way to have fun and make that much money and I hope to never loose my humanitarian outlook.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
mypath
()
Date: January 13, 2007 01:15PM
I just wanted to add this link:
[www.book-of-thoth.com]
The blog pretty much describes my questions around the LOA, which I might have not been explaining correctly in my post.
[www.book-of-thoth.com]
The blog pretty much describes my questions around the LOA, which I might have not been explaining correctly in my post.
Abraham - Hicks
Posted by:
jeannelucille
()
Date: January 13, 2007 10:44PM
I think you explained yourself VERY well, mypath. But I appreciated the additional perspective from the link you provided.
Jeanne
Jeanne
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