Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
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Date: August 22, 2009 02:17PM
I want to invite you to help each other in the process of recovery. Share your own story about what you have found helpful in learning to live life again after breaking free from Turning Point. Your story may be just what someone else needs to hear for their next step in their journey to healing and health.
How did you come to the point of breaking free?
What did you experience after leaving?
How did you feel?
How do you feel now?
What was important in terms of helping you move through the steps of grief?
What scriptures spoke to you during your journey to healing?
Were there any articles you found that were helpful?
Lets help one another in the process of recovery.
How did you come to the point of breaking free?
What did you experience after leaving?
How did you feel?
How do you feel now?
What was important in terms of helping you move through the steps of grief?
What scriptures spoke to you during your journey to healing?
Were there any articles you found that were helpful?
Lets help one another in the process of recovery.
Re: Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
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Date: August 22, 2009 11:58PM
Walking Away From Spiritual Abuse
The most difficult phase of a spiritually abusive experience is usually the exit process. This is where victims of spiritual abuse usually suffer the greatest losses. Walking away from friends and possibly even family members when exiting a religious group is never an easy process. What makes it even more difficult is when these relationships are damaged or destroyed due to the tendency of spiritually abusive leaders to blacklist and demonize members who leave the church or group.
For more click on the following link [www.churchabuse.com]
The most difficult phase of a spiritually abusive experience is usually the exit process. This is where victims of spiritual abuse usually suffer the greatest losses. Walking away from friends and possibly even family members when exiting a religious group is never an easy process. What makes it even more difficult is when these relationships are damaged or destroyed due to the tendency of spiritually abusive leaders to blacklist and demonize members who leave the church or group.
For more click on the following link [www.churchabuse.com]
Re: Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
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Date: August 23, 2009 12:17AM
Painful Exit Process
Leaving an unhealthy church situation can leave some very deep scars. One example of the collateral damage is a very painful exit process. Those who leave an unhealthy church situation suffer isolation, bitterness, embarrassment, grief, and anger. This is coupled with confusion and wondering how God could let this happen. They also chide themselves for getting into such a group and staying in the organization as long as they did.
For more of this article click on the following link: [www.batteredsheep.com]
Leaving an unhealthy church situation can leave some very deep scars. One example of the collateral damage is a very painful exit process. Those who leave an unhealthy church situation suffer isolation, bitterness, embarrassment, grief, and anger. This is coupled with confusion and wondering how God could let this happen. They also chide themselves for getting into such a group and staying in the organization as long as they did.
For more of this article click on the following link: [www.batteredsheep.com]
Re: Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
()
Date: August 23, 2009 12:51AM
Recovery From Spiritual Abuse
Churches on the fringe exist in every major metropolitan area as well as in small towns
and isolated rural areas. Some are large, "mega-church" organizations, while
some may be small house-church gatherings. Most of them look fairly normal to outsiders.
That is, until abused persons begin to leave and tell of their experiences.
Getting out of the group is only the beginning of recovery. Recovery involves,
according to one survivor, getting "the group out of us." The effects of abuse
are long-standing. The following outlines how Christians can help the spiritually abused
in their recovery.
Click on the following link for more: [jmm.absalom.biz]
Churches on the fringe exist in every major metropolitan area as well as in small towns
and isolated rural areas. Some are large, "mega-church" organizations, while
some may be small house-church gatherings. Most of them look fairly normal to outsiders.
That is, until abused persons begin to leave and tell of their experiences.
Getting out of the group is only the beginning of recovery. Recovery involves,
according to one survivor, getting "the group out of us." The effects of abuse
are long-standing. The following outlines how Christians can help the spiritually abused
in their recovery.
Click on the following link for more: [jmm.absalom.biz]
Re: Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
Daughter of Dorcas
()
Date: September 01, 2009 09:32PM
How did you come to the point of breaking free?
When Pastor Jackie resigned, we started asking questions, we didn't like the answers we received or the lack of answers that we did not receive. My husband had commented before the sabbatical that TPC was not the church we had joined. He made the decision to leave and we never went back.
What did you experience after leaving?
A loss of connectedness and belonging.
How did you feel?
Angry, that appearances and pretense had taken the place of biblical truth and accountability. That I and the other members of the TPC congregation were just wallets and checkbooks that Pastor Mike tapped into to pay for his lifestyle and house on the hill nothing more.
How do you feel now?
I have found a new church home that has given me back my connectedness and belonging. I have found a Pastor who understands where I came from and has helped me to overcome my anger and look ahead to what the Lord has in store for my life.
What was important in terms of helping you move through the steps of grief?
A group our new church sponsored to help members recover from leaving a toxic church and overcoming spiritual abuse. This group therapy helped me to be able to forgive those who disappointed and hurt me at TPC. I cannot emphasize enough how important these group therapy sessions were in overcoming my anger and hurt.
What scriptures spoke to you during your journey to healing?
Ezekiel 34, it is not for we mortal men to deal with a bad shepherd because the Lord says he will find us and bring us back and give us new shepherds to watch over us. That he not would deal with TPC Leadership and this was his responsibility and not ours.
Were there any articles you found that were helpful?
Many, but the book Recovering from Spiritual Abuse and Toxic Faith were the biggest help.
Daughter of Dorcas
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2009 09:35PM by Daughter of Dorcas.
When Pastor Jackie resigned, we started asking questions, we didn't like the answers we received or the lack of answers that we did not receive. My husband had commented before the sabbatical that TPC was not the church we had joined. He made the decision to leave and we never went back.
What did you experience after leaving?
A loss of connectedness and belonging.
How did you feel?
Angry, that appearances and pretense had taken the place of biblical truth and accountability. That I and the other members of the TPC congregation were just wallets and checkbooks that Pastor Mike tapped into to pay for his lifestyle and house on the hill nothing more.
How do you feel now?
I have found a new church home that has given me back my connectedness and belonging. I have found a Pastor who understands where I came from and has helped me to overcome my anger and look ahead to what the Lord has in store for my life.
What was important in terms of helping you move through the steps of grief?
A group our new church sponsored to help members recover from leaving a toxic church and overcoming spiritual abuse. This group therapy helped me to be able to forgive those who disappointed and hurt me at TPC. I cannot emphasize enough how important these group therapy sessions were in overcoming my anger and hurt.
What scriptures spoke to you during your journey to healing?
Ezekiel 34, it is not for we mortal men to deal with a bad shepherd because the Lord says he will find us and bring us back and give us new shepherds to watch over us. That he not would deal with TPC Leadership and this was his responsibility and not ours.
Were there any articles you found that were helpful?
Many, but the book Recovering from Spiritual Abuse and Toxic Faith were the biggest help.
Daughter of Dorcas
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2009 09:35PM by Daughter of Dorcas.
Re: Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
BraveHeart
()
Date: February 08, 2010 02:14PM
Looking for a good church? Join the club. Church-shopping can be a long and painful
process. To shorten your search, call the pastor of the church before you visit and ask
the following questions. This might save you a lot of Sundays.
1. What is man's biggest problem?
A seeker sensitive and felt-needs churches focus on man’s hurts and problems. The Bible
says that man’s biggest problem is sin.
2. What must a man do to inherit eternal life?
Repent and trust is the Biblical answer. If the word “repent” is never used, say, “Thank
you.”
3. How do you deliver the salvation message?
Ask the pastor to describe specifically what he says. Does he encourage people to
simply say a prayer? Does he tell people to ask Jesus into their hearts? The salvation
message should include: God’s holiness, man’s sinfulness, God’s response (hell),
God’s kindness (Jesus on the cross), man’s response (repentance and faith).
4. How hard is it to become a Christian?
The “formula” is simple, doing it is not. It is not easy to believe.
5. How often do you talk about sin, righteousness and judgment?
Balance is key. This should not be the only emphasis, but it should be a regular
emphasis.
6. How seeker sensitive is your church?
It is o.k. for a church to be “seeker aware” but seeker sensitive means that they lean
toward seekers and not the saved.
7. Who do you do church for, seekers or members?
“Both” is not acceptable. Church should be done for members and the unsaved are
welcome to attend.
8. Do you dumb down your sermons?
If he says yes, he is probably not trying to wean his members from milk to meat.
Answers like, “We try to make our sermons accessible to everyone” are sermons that
are not meaty.
9. What is your mixture of topical vs. expository preaching?
Topical preaching is fine, but if a pastor never or rarely preaches expositionally (verse
by verse), then you are going to be learning from the pastor and not God’s Word.
10. Do your sermons emphasize theology or are they relevant?
Everyone should say their sermons are relevant, what you are looking for is if they
teach theology.
11. Describe your youth programs.
If fun and games is the major (and usually first) emphasis, you have a youth program
that is trying to compete with MTV.
12. Describe your evangelism programs.
Don’t just accept, “We have an evangelism committee.” Dig. Are they serious about
saving souls?
13. What church growth model do you follow?
Hopefully they don’t have one. Churches should be reaching out to the lost, but
churches that are plugged into new church growth models tend to follow man’s modern
ideas rather than the Bible.
14. How much do you give to missions and the hungry?
Again, this reveals the heart of the church. While most churches give to missions, many
never consider the poor.
15. Do you believe the Bible contains no errors or contradictions?
No equivocation allowed here.
16. Do you believe in a literal 6 day creation?
Jesus did (Matt.19:4).
17. Do you believe in a literal hell and eternal punishment?
Jesus did (Matt.25).
18. When you distribute the Lord's Supper, do you emphasize the need to examine
yourself?
Paul did (I Cor.11:27-32).
19. Can a person who is living in a persistent lifestyle of sin inherit eternal life?
Sinners can certainly be forgiven, but practicing sinners cannot inherit eternal life (I
John 3:8,9).
20. Does your church exercise church discipline?
Paul said we should (I Cor.5).
21. Do Sunday school teachers, nursery, and youth volunteers fill out an application to
answer questions about their core beliefs, or are all volunteers accepted?
22.What are the essentials of the faith?
Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Salvation through faith alone, the inerrancy of Scripture.
23. Do you have a cross in your sanctuary?
Many remove it because they fear it will turn off seekers. They should glory in the
cross. The cross should be the central focus of every church.
BraveHeart
process. To shorten your search, call the pastor of the church before you visit and ask
the following questions. This might save you a lot of Sundays.
1. What is man's biggest problem?
A seeker sensitive and felt-needs churches focus on man’s hurts and problems. The Bible
says that man’s biggest problem is sin.
2. What must a man do to inherit eternal life?
Repent and trust is the Biblical answer. If the word “repent” is never used, say, “Thank
you.”
3. How do you deliver the salvation message?
Ask the pastor to describe specifically what he says. Does he encourage people to
simply say a prayer? Does he tell people to ask Jesus into their hearts? The salvation
message should include: God’s holiness, man’s sinfulness, God’s response (hell),
God’s kindness (Jesus on the cross), man’s response (repentance and faith).
4. How hard is it to become a Christian?
The “formula” is simple, doing it is not. It is not easy to believe.
5. How often do you talk about sin, righteousness and judgment?
Balance is key. This should not be the only emphasis, but it should be a regular
emphasis.
6. How seeker sensitive is your church?
It is o.k. for a church to be “seeker aware” but seeker sensitive means that they lean
toward seekers and not the saved.
7. Who do you do church for, seekers or members?
“Both” is not acceptable. Church should be done for members and the unsaved are
welcome to attend.
8. Do you dumb down your sermons?
If he says yes, he is probably not trying to wean his members from milk to meat.
Answers like, “We try to make our sermons accessible to everyone” are sermons that
are not meaty.
9. What is your mixture of topical vs. expository preaching?
Topical preaching is fine, but if a pastor never or rarely preaches expositionally (verse
by verse), then you are going to be learning from the pastor and not God’s Word.
10. Do your sermons emphasize theology or are they relevant?
Everyone should say their sermons are relevant, what you are looking for is if they
teach theology.
11. Describe your youth programs.
If fun and games is the major (and usually first) emphasis, you have a youth program
that is trying to compete with MTV.
12. Describe your evangelism programs.
Don’t just accept, “We have an evangelism committee.” Dig. Are they serious about
saving souls?
13. What church growth model do you follow?
Hopefully they don’t have one. Churches should be reaching out to the lost, but
churches that are plugged into new church growth models tend to follow man’s modern
ideas rather than the Bible.
14. How much do you give to missions and the hungry?
Again, this reveals the heart of the church. While most churches give to missions, many
never consider the poor.
15. Do you believe the Bible contains no errors or contradictions?
No equivocation allowed here.
16. Do you believe in a literal 6 day creation?
Jesus did (Matt.19:4).
17. Do you believe in a literal hell and eternal punishment?
Jesus did (Matt.25).
18. When you distribute the Lord's Supper, do you emphasize the need to examine
yourself?
Paul did (I Cor.11:27-32).
19. Can a person who is living in a persistent lifestyle of sin inherit eternal life?
Sinners can certainly be forgiven, but practicing sinners cannot inherit eternal life (I
John 3:8,9).
20. Does your church exercise church discipline?
Paul said we should (I Cor.5).
21. Do Sunday school teachers, nursery, and youth volunteers fill out an application to
answer questions about their core beliefs, or are all volunteers accepted?
22.What are the essentials of the faith?
Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Salvation through faith alone, the inerrancy of Scripture.
23. Do you have a cross in your sanctuary?
Many remove it because they fear it will turn off seekers. They should glory in the
cross. The cross should be the central focus of every church.
BraveHeart
Re: Life After Turning Point Church...Steps that helped You to Live Again
Posted by:
ostracizedone
()
Date: June 09, 2010 02:53AM
A LITTLE MATH
Total Posts Rick Ross Destructive Church Forum...11,396
Total Non Radiant Life Cult/TPWOC Posts...............5,565.....48.84%
Total Radiant Life Cult/Tony Cunningham Posts......2,989.....26.22%
Total TPWOC/Mike Villamor Posts...........................2,842....24.93%
Combine Total Percentage Of Posts On
Radiant Life Cult/Tony Cunningham and TPWOCult/ Mike Villamor.......51.16%
Over 51% of the total posts on an Cult Education Forum are attributed to the Satanic twistings of a Spiritual Father/Spritual Son team Tony Cunningham and Mike Villamor...............What does this leave to doubt?
Total Posts Rick Ross Destructive Church Forum...11,396
Total Non Radiant Life Cult/TPWOC Posts...............5,565.....48.84%
Total Radiant Life Cult/Tony Cunningham Posts......2,989.....26.22%
Total TPWOC/Mike Villamor Posts...........................2,842....24.93%
Combine Total Percentage Of Posts On
Radiant Life Cult/Tony Cunningham and TPWOCult/ Mike Villamor.......51.16%
Over 51% of the total posts on an Cult Education Forum are attributed to the Satanic twistings of a Spiritual Father/Spritual Son team Tony Cunningham and Mike Villamor...............What does this leave to doubt?
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