A FAITH CHALLENGE FOR MIKE VILLAMOR:

1. PREACH THE GOSPEL
2. OFFER THE "PURE MILK OF THE WORD" (NOT THE SPECIALIZED "DEEPER"--GNOSTIC--TEACHINGS YOU'RE PASSING OFF AS THE WORD OF GOD).
3. LEAVE THE MANAGING OF PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS, ATTITUDES, AND ACTIONS TO GOD (STOP MANIPULATING!)

I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO THESE THINGS AS AN ACT OF FAITH, LETTING GO OF YOUR NOTION OF APOSTLESHIP. THEN IF YOU REALLY ARE AN APOSTLE, GOD WILL BRING IT TO LIGHT; YOU WON'T HAVE TO. BUT YOU AREN'T AN APOSTLE; SO THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LIVE OUT YOUR DREAM OF BEING ONE IS TO MANIPULATE MINDS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. HOWEVER, THERE'S NO FAITH IN THAT.

IT'S ALL SO VERY SAD WHERE YOU'VE COME TO, CONSIDERING WHERE YOU STARTED. WE ARE NOT GLAD ABOUT IT. WE ARE INTENSELY GRIEVED.

I believe the false apostle Mike Villamor thinks God is speaking through him to us. I believe the false apostle Mike thinks he is some sort of great faith apostle, right up there with Apostle Paul and Saint Peter! God is speaking to us, God is warning us not to accept false apostle Mikes false doctrines! Mikes great faith helps him to pretend that he is is a great man of God. I believe Mike needs to feel like a big hot shot rock star sent from heaven by God to give us the truth so he can ruin our lives! Mike would make a great used car salesman, polititician or con man!



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So as I was listening to the sermon on "Faith"

I just could not help but wonder where the scripture was that actually validated his defintion of "Faith"?

He made a very profound statement and a very bold one too, the first one was this

He says "Religion points out other peoples faults" and the only way God responds to that is by JUDGEMENT,

Question: I wonder what happened to Paul when he corrected (pointed out his faults) Peter? (ironicly pastor mike used a verse from this passage in Galations)... oh sorry guys i must have forgot, only APOSTLES get to point out peoples faults sorry everyone else. You don't have the money to become an apostle.

He then also states that you should preach the gospel and should not feel bad if you sin, then you go preach on what you have sinned on just a few days ago. I listened to it yesterday so please correct me if i am taking him out of context. He was explaining that "RELIGION" is "Merit" based. He was then explaining, what some people go through for religion and works based.

Question: Is there no need of repentence nessiary for sinning? This i find intresting considering his marriage. What was really sad was how he was bragging about his marriage in the begining of the sermon and how if you know God like him, YOU TOO CAN HAVE A (seemily) BLISSFULL Marriage!!!!

It sounded like a get one now add, Just put in 299.99 in the tithe bucket and you too can know God like me, make sure you do it in the Front... just so you are worshiping when you do it.

For the majority of the sermon i think he only used 4 scriptures and I think the only one that made partial sense was the Isa one, all the others were taken out of context to fit the sermon.

All i can say is that i feel great now that i have left and will continue to warn people about TPC, on this site and in person. It is a hard story to tell and even harded pill to take.

My prayers are with those that still attend and have no idea, they are walking to death and they don't know the danger.

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LearningPoint
A FAITH CHALLENGE FOR MIKE VILLAMOR:

1. PREACH THE GOSPEL
2. OFFER THE "PURE MILK OF THE WORD" (NOT THE SPECIALIZED "DEEPER"--GNOSTIC--TEACHINGS YOU'RE PASSING OFF AS THE WORD OF GOD).
3. LEAVE THE MANAGING OF PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS, ATTITUDES, AND ACTIONS TO GOD (STOP MANIPULATING!)

I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO THESE THINGS AS AN ACT OF FAITH, LETTING GO OF YOUR NOTION OF APOSTLESHIP. THEN IF YOU REALLY ARE AN APOSTLE, GOD WILL BRING IT TO LIGHT; YOU WON'T HAVE TO. BUT YOU AREN'T AN APOSTLE; SO THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LIVE OUT YOUR DREAM OF BEING ONE IS TO MANIPULATE MINDS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. HOWEVER, THERE'S NO FAITH IN THAT.

IT'S ALL SO VERY SAD WHERE YOU'VE COME TO, CONSIDERING WHERE YOU STARTED. WE ARE NOT GLAD ABOUT IT. WE ARE INTENSELY GRIEVED.

LearningPoint good post
You left out one critical point...Mike

!!!"REPENT"!!!


Mike Renounce your evil and twisted teachings and associations you have with other false preachers like Tony Cunningham.

BraveHeart

Braveheart; you forgot to add - "...other false preachers like Tony Cunningham"...who is being sued by an ex churchmember to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars on the basis of fraud! I think $$$ is the only language they understand at this point.

If Die Quietly's dream is a prophetic vision, I can understand why Pastor Mike would be anguished. He will be loosing his empire. Which leads to the loss of money. But those who know Pastor Mike would know that the loss of his pulpit and the very public disgrace it would bring to him added to the very stern rebuke spelled out in Ephesians 34 for shepherds who feed themselves at the expense of their flock would most certainly cause the painfully anguished Pastor Mike that Die Quietly saw.

Saddened

TPWOC please quit giving your hard earned money to the false apostle Mike Villamor! If you cut the money out you will stop the blood flow to the blood money sucking vampires Mike and Cydni Villamors! By the way don't miss this Sunday, opps I mean do miss this Sunday! False I made myself a prophet Cydni will be speaking this Sunday! This weekend is a good time to check out some of the other great churches in our area! Mighty Mike will be speaking finnally at this Sat. TPWOC mens ministry I want to be a warrior meeting ! Mighty Mike has finally came down from the mountain top with Moses to give you a new revelation! And don't forget the Summer Jubulee rally at Jakes house Sunday night, If you are lucky you can maybe touch the Great one Mighty Mike Villamor! Just maybe he will look your way and you can experince the glory of the Lord! Mike Villamor the one and only: I want to be the Apostle of the Marysville Churches! Apostle Mike I believe hopes to be the apostle of the city, county, state, country and finally the world!

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Braveheart; you forgot to add - "...other false preachers like Tony Cunningham"...who is being sued by an ex churchmember to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars on the basis of fraud! I think $$$ is the only language they understand at this point.

0h you are so right! Thanks for pointing that out.
details....details......details...

I understand the case is still moving forward... these things simply take time.

It is very apparent that the staff is doing all they can, to improve their image. They are posting on the RLc MySpace page photographs that are nearly 3 years ago all in an effort to look normal. They finally took down the old image of Tony & Rose with my wife in the background. Look at the image they still have up with John Lee the people in the back ground are from about 3 years ago. That image was shot the same day the other images was from.

It is ironic to think about all this mess that Tony is in with radiant life, SOMA & all his financial dealings.
This is all due to the lack of accountability from an emasculated group of elders and a congregation that has absolutely no input.

WAJ..........whatajoke..the new RLC website....what a blatant marketing bunch of BS to try to save a renegade Pastor. Same phony people on there saying the same phony things........especially on the thanksgiving page. I am so thankful the good lord doesnt have a bunch of do's and don'ts and just wants us to come to him..........it is so glorious...........got news there are alot of do's and don'ts....figures this person whould say that. Wish Jesus were here today wandering through the churches to give this one a big buttkicking LOL. You even have Ghosbusters and Pastor Tony on there now.....LOL. Those people all have me laughing now because I know how ridiculous they are. Oh my I am in a good place. It must be a burden for the most of them to carry on the way they do.



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I am hoping false apostle Mike Villamor will come to his senses and wake up from the bad dream! I believe TPWOC will follow the footsteps of the false apostle Tony the tiger Cunningham! Kind of looks like a skinny tiger! Anyway TPWOC seems to have a really excellent marketing and media machine! False apostle Mike Villamor is trying to be the great uniter of the churches and community in Marysville. Was this the same strategy Tony Cunningham used down there?With everthing Mike picked up from Tony as far as his SOMA program, false teachings and willing to still have him up to teach at SOMA NW. I believe its only a matter of time before Mikes empire starts to crumble.It is real important to be able to see the connection between the two false apostles! False apostle Mike Villamor is like a magnet to false doctrine right now, with his connection with false prosperity teacher Casey(the heleicopter guy) Treat and other goofy word of faith movement false teachers. And also this Super Apostle movement that Mike seems to want to grab onto! We all should be concerned. What new false teaching will false apostle Mike Villamor pick up next. The cover up alone by Kim Barnes to try and distance itself from the false apostle Tony Cunningham was a huge red flag when she was questioned on TPWOC relationship with the false apostle Tony Cunningham! I was at TPWOC when Tony would come up to teach and the people treated him like some sort of celebritiy. I just want to thank all the ex RLC people for their input because we need all the help we can get. You have been through where TPWOC is going to end up! False apostle Mike Villamor does not care about what other people think, he is still going to push his agenda! False apostle Mike Villamor is on a mission for himself that is not from God! Mike has a lack of accountability and his brainwashed elders and deacons are not standing up for truth! We really do need Gods intervention in Marysville at the church of the false apostle Mike Villamor!



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