Spiritualism
Posted by: carioca ()
Date: May 25, 2006 12:28AM

Has anyone heard of this church?
Would you consider them a destructive church?
Thanks for your comments!

Spiritualism
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: May 25, 2006 12:34AM

Seems like a general name not a specific church.

Spiritualism
Posted by: carioca ()
Date: May 25, 2006 12:41AM

that is the name they use, either Spiritualism Church or Spiritualistic Church.

Spiritualism
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: May 25, 2006 12:49AM

Don't recall the group.

Spiritualism
Posted by: kath ()
Date: May 25, 2006 03:55AM

Do you mean spiritualists in general?

[www.snu.org.uk]

Of which the Spiritualists National Union is the largest movement in the UK?
Love
Kath

Spiritualism
Posted by: Gulab Jamon ()
Date: June 15, 2006 12:12AM

Spiritualist churches have been around since the 1800s at least. An old friend of mine and his wife are involved in a spiritualist church in Vermont. It never sounded that harmful or dangerous to me, but then again, I'm pretty open-minded about stuff like that.

There is a town in upstate NY called Lily Dale that is supposedly a historically spiritualist town.

Spiritualism
Posted by: Gulab Jamon ()
Date: June 15, 2006 12:16AM

Here's a U.S. website that tells you a bit about the spiritualist movement:
[www.nsac.org]

Spiritualism
Posted by: scllschenectady ()
Date: July 28, 2006 05:24AM

Hi All
Seemed like maybe there was some confusion regarding Spiritualism and whether it was a generic name or a church
Spiritualism is a recognized religion since the mid 1800's. Although Spiritualist concepts had been practiced for some time prior to that, it made its way into america in upstate ny <hydesville> around 1840
The link that another member left will give you basic information about the religion of Spiritualism and its basic tenets, philosophy and principles, although the NSAC is one branch of Spiritualism just as in other religions there are different "branches" that have somewhat different practices or understanding of the teachings.
Excerpted here you will find some information from a very helpful and useful web article
Spiritualism is not, as is commonly believed, a sinister cult, meeting in darkened rooms to “call up the dead”, but an officially recognised religious movement with its own Churches and Ministers, who possess the same rights and privileges as ministers of religion of other denominations.

Proof of Survival

Spiritualism is a religion in that it embodies the main ideas of all religions that there is life after death, and immortality and the existence of God. The difference between Spiritualism and other religions is the ability, through Mediumship, to prove that Man survives the grave; that is to say, certain people called Mediums are able to communicate with those who have passed over, thus furnishing conclusive evidence of their continued existence in another world. Mediums cannot call up these people as one would call a friend on the telephone - they come to us only when they are ready and willing to do so.

Who are these Mediums? They are highly sensitive people who have developed certain psychic gifts - which each one of us possesses to a greater or lesser degree - women’s intuition being a very good example. Some are born Mediums, others take years to develop, while others, through ignorance or lack of opportunity of development are unable to exercise their gift.

The Philosophy of Spiritualism is based upon seven fundamental principles:-

The Fatherhood of God

The Brotherhood of Man

The Communion of Saints and the Ministry of Angels

The Continuous Existence of the Soul

Personal Responsibility

Compensation and Retribution hereafter for all Good and Evil Deeds

Eternal Progress open to every Soul

Spiritualists are often accused of being Atheists or anti-Christian, yet our first principle recognises God as our Father - but who is God? We do not recognise Him as a nebulous person sitting on a throne, but the Infinite Power embodied in all that is good and beautiful in our World, the supreme factor in the Universe, and the controlling force of all nature.

Not Anti-Christian

Spiritualists are not anti-Christian any more than they are anti-Jewish, anti-Hindu or anti-Moslem. There are Christian Spiritualists in the same way as there are Hindu, Moslem and Jewish Spiritualists. We do not, however, claim a monopoly of religion. One’s religion is a personal matter and any person adopting Spiritualism is not asked to change his or her beliefs.

A major difference between Spiritualism and the orthodox Christian belief is embodied in the Fifth Principle - Personal Responsibility. We do not accept that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins. We hold that no one can do this but we ourselves. We are given free will and the ability to distinguish between right and wrong and we alone are responsible for our thoughts and actions.

What the Church calls sin we regard as being a violation of the Divine Laws made by God, which Paul interpreted when he wrote: “Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap”. Man alone must atone for these “sins” and not shirk his responsibilities.

God Not Vindictive

We do not believe in a vindictive God sitting in judgement over us. We are our own judges here and now and we shall receive compensation or retribution for whatever we have done, whether it be good or bad. Heaven and hell are not places to which we are destined to go, but states of mind of our own creation.

We do not automatically become spiritual when we leave this world. We shall in fact retain our earthly characteristics while the opportunity will be given throughout eternity to make spiritual progress and so undo any wrongs we committed on earth, for both free will and personal responsibility will still be with us in the world to come.

Man is a spirit now within a mortal body. Death is but the parting of the ways - our body to decay but our spirit to live on in a new and grander world. If death were the end of everything, life would merely have a material motive, whereas the knowledge of a future existence gives life a spiritual motive and purpose beyond mere physical existence.

We are living in a material scientific age in which orthodox religion has lost its impact. Any religion therefore which can successfully overcome this materialistic influence must be scientific - and Spiritualism is just that. It has turned the pious hope of a hereafter into scientific fact. The advent of the spirit of man into this world, and in the course of time his transition to another world, is a fact proved by Mediumship.

Religion has been defined as faith without science - and science as faith without religion. Spiritualism embodies science, faith and religion, unfettered by dogma or creed.

If anyone honestly desires more information about Spiritualism I would be more than happy to share with you, however i am not interested in trying to "prove" anything
I am an ordained Spiritualist Minister and as such am open to helping others to understand our practice, but not interested in trying to 'convert' anyone

Spiritualism
Posted by: onlyme ()
Date: March 23, 2007 12:47AM

My family were all very involved in spiritualism in the past, and their experiences of this were very negative and led them out of it and into christianity. I know when I have talked to them there is fear of what happens when the door is opened to this type of thing, and I was taught very specifically from the bible that spiritualism is wrong, that knowing the future and contacting the dead is not possible through the power of god.

I'm not saying this to have a go, just sharing my experiences. I now am very wary of any type of spiritualist activity, even to the point of thinking twice about looking at horiscopes. I have a scientific background and would be interested to know how spiritualism links science to spirituality. Hope this makes sense

Spiritualism
Posted by: Kastlefeer ()
Date: March 28, 2007 02:27PM

Quote
onlyme
I have a scientific background and would be interested to know how spiritualism links science to spirituality. Hope this makes sense

I very much doubt it has any legitamit link, but i'd love to hear the explanation hehe ... perhaps just like religious science or scientology have nothing to do with science in reality they like to bandy the term around in marketing to naive skeptics.

Send em to Randi, noone has collected his million yet ...

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