btherl:
You are here to defend Landmark as an apologist, not to have any meaningful discussion.
But thank you for giving everyone who reads this thread a current example of how the company influences people and affects their ability to think critically and evaluate information.
Your posts have become very repetitive and don't present anything other than your opinion, which is your support of Landmark through your subjective experience, which is anecdotal and not based upon anything solid, scientific, or objective.
You come across as little more than a Landmark clone. And you literally paid the company for that result.
I have posted links to news reports, archived material and research that specifically supports the conclusion that Landmark is a controversial organization with a history of bad press, personal injury lawsuits, labor violations and complaints.
You have offered nothing but empty rhetoric repeating Landmark jargon and claims to support your subjective experience.
No one disputes that Landmark is adept at persuading people that they are good, but that doesn't make the training good or useful objectively, which the available research demonstrates.
A group of researchers, led by Jeffrey D. Fisher, Purdue professor of psychology, studied the effects of Landmark training. They concluded, "In fact, with the exception of the short-term multivariate results for perceived control, there was no appreciable effects only dimension which could reflect positive change." However, even this perception of control among the Landmark participants studied dissipated about eighteen months. Th Fisher study regarding Landmark training has been cited repeatedly, it suggests that such seminars produce of short-term and dissipating results. (Jeffrey D. Fisher et al, "Evaluating large Group Awareness Training: A Longitudinal Study of Psychosocial Effect" New York: Springer-Verlag, 1990).
Regarding the controversial nature of Landmark one need on read recent news report to see this fact. For example, Canadian Broadcast Corp. (CBC) headline reads, "Alberta Health Services staff pressured to attend controversial seminars." Note the words "controversial seminars." This report was filed this month.
The byline below the CBC headline reads, "Government continued to use Landmark Education despite employee complaints." Not the word "complaints."
When interviewed by CBC about Landmark University of Alberta sociology Professor Stephen Kent said, “They are manipulative, they are controlling, they involve coercive persuasion,” Kent added, "There are inherent risks to these kinds of programs. People can find them easily on the internet.”
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Landmark has repeatedly been cited and investigated for labor violations. For example, in Colorado, Texas and California.
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Landmark is for-profit privately held company, yet it largely subsists and remains profitable through "volunteer" labor.
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This official report outlines some of the persistent labor issues at Landmark.
An interesting documentary about Landmark Education was broadcast on French television in 2004. Landmark hired a French psychiatrist Jean-Marie Abgrall, a legal expert, to do a report about the company and its training. Despite being paid by Landmark Abgrall stated, "My critique is of techniques that haven't been mastered at all. There is no control of a psychologist. They just put anyone in there, which means that if this guy takes a blow, he leaves alone in a daze, there's no one to take control for him. They don't exchange information - there's no real inspection of the technique. These guys aren't trained, as if tomorrow you set up shop as a psychotherapist. I mean, that's what's shocking"
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After the French broadcast Landmark left France.
I have not expressed any opinion in my posts based upon my beliefs, but rather pointed out the historical facts about Landmark, the Forum, est and Erhard, which are well-known and established.
There is no belief system I am attempting to recruit you into. This is a ridiculous claim. Landmark has a belief system as constructed by Werner Erhard (aka Jack Rosenberg) and the essential purpose of Landmark training is to convert participants into true believers. I have not preached any belief system on this thread. In fact such preaching is prohibited by the rules of this message board. I am not asking you to convert to any particular belief such as Judaism, which is my background.
Accepting historical facts is not a belief system, but rather reflects being grounded in reality.
Please don't continue posting gibberish and nonsense here.
If you want to support Landmark and pay the company for its training that's your choice, but don't peddle and promote sales for the company here. This is not a Landmark "graduation" platform for you offer testimonials and try to enroll and/or influence people to buy some course.
Please understand also that repeating the same slogans and mantras about your Landmark experience here isn't meaningful dialog. That may pass for "education" within the world of Landmark, but it just makes you seem like a mindless cult member here.
Have a nice day.