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JimJesus, (Machwon) Do you recall making this statement on the Skeptic forums?
"I will admit this: I have seen Mario use very sensational and sometimes misleading titles for his videos and blogs. I have seen Kush publish information that turned out inaccurate when new evidence has surfaced. I can't speak for the occult aspects of it as I am not well versed in occultism. (note: occult isn't a cult)"
Not asking to debate you, just asking you to share your expiriences. That is all.
I don't see how this has any relevance to what I'm saying. Please do not try to redirect the conversation.
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corboy
There's been a lot of grim and ugly exhanges on other venues.
When things get nasty at a personal level, (disclosure of private information and cruel ridicule) it robs one of crediblity.
Here, what is usefl would be to offer information in the manner that Skeptic did, describing the actual time and money commitment a ZM member is going to give.
And whether disagreement and suggestions are respected or treated as affronts.
Going by the screenshot from the old ZM forum, it appears ZM is a clubhouse for a favored few.
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james kush
Im sure I can guess this person was
a) a troll
b) liar
c) taken out of context
d) invented by a critic
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Another thing I might mention is TZM becoming an activist arm of The Venus Project. TZM was initially sort of like AboveTopSecret and sites like that: a place for people to discuss conspiracies, alternative history, psueo-science and things of that nature. On a whim, Peter Joseph Merola decided that Jordan Maxwell was no longer his inspirational figure and hero, but Jacque Fresco was. Instantly and overnight TZM changed into existing for the sole purpose of advocating Jacque Frescos ideas. This is why the forums were a constant battle between those wanting to promote fringe ideas and those wanting to promote The Venus Project. This schism has never been resolved and I doubt it can ever be resolved due to Zeitgeist: The Movie being TZM's greatest recruitment tool, which Peter Joseph Merola has admitted to on more than one occasion. This was the reason why, despite constant requests from members to do so, he refused to distance TZM from the first film. He never did distance himself from that film, but instead doubled down on it by working with notorious pseudo-historian Acharya S (D.M. Murdock) to prop up the questionable material in Zeitgeist: The Movie with more questionable material from Acharya S.