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justaman22
Huh? Ejaculation is the worst thing ever? I mean, c'mon. I never stated it like that, you largely took my words out of context.
Your words? I was talking about SAW's philosophy.
Have you read his books, or only listened to the podcasts?
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Don't you think it's funny that tv is pushing sex BIG TIME and pornography is only 3 mouse clicks away on the internet.
And if a man matures, he gets past that stuff. He realizes that he would rather feel and be intimate with a real woman than be titillated by video, and as long as he is using the latter as a substitute he is not feeling his real lack, and as long as he doesn't feel his real lack, he has no incentive to get better: to become more social, to learn to talk to women, to accept his feelings toward women and learn to express them courageously, to accept the possibility of rejection as he puts himself out there, etc.
Such a man who refuses to mature in this way settles for some easy way out (perhaps a woman he privately despises), and then is harrassed by an insatiable need for porn and fantasy because his woman doesn't actually please him. He'd rather masturbate than have sex with her, etc. Whereas the man who does the work to mature finds new joy in the company of others, improved confidence, a lighter heart. So in this way porn is a substitute for real work, real growth.
It's the same as with every form of escapism. Every time you substitute for the possibility of meaningful satisfaction a past pleasure that no longer has any meaning for you, you're engaging in escapism and stunting your growth. One of the big vices of our civilization is escapism, running away from ourselves, remaining at the same level perpetually.
Do you see what I mean? Sexual asceticism is not the only way out of the porn problem. Sexuality affirmation and doing what it takes to find real satisfaction in that realm is another path. And, IMO, the right one. And the harder one, as it really puts you to the test, and there is real possibility of failure.
Or, I mean, our sex-crazed culture could be a big, organized conspiracy too.
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I'm by no means scared of death, I welcome it.
That's a fine attitude. The question is, do you also welcome life? A man needs religion, the conquest of death, in order to truly live, otherwise that skeleton remains in life's closet and man can only try to hide from it. But with the conquest of death comes a new lease on life, a man can live more fully and intensely than ever before. And that's the real meaning of religion. The life, not the death.
If you haven't read SAW's books, I highly recommend them. You will find the podcasts do a great job of hiding the man's more insane side and hiding the stuff that really freaks you out. I feel like to be "by no means scared of death" means you haven't really grasped what SAW was saying. Or you've achieved enlightenment already, in which case what do I know? Why are you trying to convince us plebs anyway? But if you aren't fully enlightened, then you are in all likelihood going to the same hell I'm going to, no matter how much "Gnosticism" you drink.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2013 10:53PM by EverVigilant.