Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
indiaspark
()
Date: September 15, 2010 01:01AM
Quote
rrmoderator
Many neo-eastern groups rely upon some form of hypnosis or trance induction to make individuals highly suggestible. In this altered state almost anything can be suggested to the subject and then accepted as reality.
In this way feelings can be easily manipulated.
See [www.culteducation.com]
Also see [www.culteducation.com]
Thanks for those links.
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
Sidha7001
()
Date: September 15, 2010 01:27AM
To who it may concern:
The personal Pujari for the Shankiacharia of Conci Purim conducted the Sanyas ceremony according to all due official rights for Guru SwamiG.
When traveling to Conci Purim, Swami G then met the head of the Pujari at Conci Purum whose family was in charge of the temple rights there.
Guru Swami G was in Full Sanyas wear. Even though it was stated no foreigners were allowed, once they saw the photograph with the Pujari conducting the Sanyas ceremony, Guru Swami G was then ushered to the front of the line inside the temple. The head Pujari has also invited Guru Swami G back to engage in further ceremonies.
When the Sanyas ceremony is taken, you are dead to the past, this is part of the vows and Guru Swami G is not going to go back on the vows and answer questions about her previous name- there is no reason to give this out, there is no deep dark secret being hidden.
As far as the rest, I am sorry you don't understand shaktipat and the validity of it. Also, on this path , the students eat meat. We don't want them verging out on carbs like these cults do to the point where they can t think and they are light headed.
You need to understand all the hall marks of a cult. Swami G have been open and told Rick Ross to call, he is more than welcome to come visit and see what is here, there is nothing to hide here.
If one wants to go and make these accusations, one should at least come here and check it out first.
There is no compound, we are not lining up to have the cool aide. Swami G does not tell us she is the center of our universe . She is not the 2cd coming of christ, never claimed to be an avatar- non of that non sense flies here.
Thank you for bringing it up because Swami G will be going back to conci purim very shortly.
Hridaya
The personal Pujari for the Shankiacharia of Conci Purim conducted the Sanyas ceremony according to all due official rights for Guru SwamiG.
When traveling to Conci Purim, Swami G then met the head of the Pujari at Conci Purum whose family was in charge of the temple rights there.
Guru Swami G was in Full Sanyas wear. Even though it was stated no foreigners were allowed, once they saw the photograph with the Pujari conducting the Sanyas ceremony, Guru Swami G was then ushered to the front of the line inside the temple. The head Pujari has also invited Guru Swami G back to engage in further ceremonies.
When the Sanyas ceremony is taken, you are dead to the past, this is part of the vows and Guru Swami G is not going to go back on the vows and answer questions about her previous name- there is no reason to give this out, there is no deep dark secret being hidden.
As far as the rest, I am sorry you don't understand shaktipat and the validity of it. Also, on this path , the students eat meat. We don't want them verging out on carbs like these cults do to the point where they can t think and they are light headed.
You need to understand all the hall marks of a cult. Swami G have been open and told Rick Ross to call, he is more than welcome to come visit and see what is here, there is nothing to hide here.
If one wants to go and make these accusations, one should at least come here and check it out first.
There is no compound, we are not lining up to have the cool aide. Swami G does not tell us she is the center of our universe . She is not the 2cd coming of christ, never claimed to be an avatar- non of that non sense flies here.
Thank you for bringing it up because Swami G will be going back to conci purim very shortly.
Hridaya
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
rrmoderator
()
Date: September 15, 2010 01:50AM
Sidha7001:
Please explain Swami G regarding how her organization is run, i.e. bylaws, elected boards, published budget etc.
How does that work?
How does Swami G support herself and how is the money accounted for in the organization?
Is there a charitable nonprofit or what?
Please explain Swami G regarding how her organization is run, i.e. bylaws, elected boards, published budget etc.
How does that work?
How does Swami G support herself and how is the money accounted for in the organization?
Is there a charitable nonprofit or what?
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
indiaspark
()
Date: September 15, 2010 01:51AM
On the topic of suggestions here is a rational take on the martial arts myth of 'no touch' knock down. Watch till the end :)
[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
JRHebert
()
Date: September 15, 2010 12:06PM
Hello rrmoderator, sorry for being a bit off subject on my last post as I was replying to a specific post of mediaspark.
Now, as for the giving of a spiritual name... This has been a tradition in lots of eastern religions like Buddhism or even for Muslims, so this is quite common for millions and millions of people... The spiritual name is a bit like when they called you 'Baloo' in the younger days in the scouts, it represents a quality that one either has or that is lacking...
No offence but it seems to me there is a lot of accusations and allegations going on, based on what proof or tangible/credible evidence? Some go as far to say that probably most in our community are mentally ill and needing professional help, but on what basis or clinical evidence?
Things are most open in this path, people are invited to go directly to GuruG and come to yearly gatherings, and there is absolutely nothing to hide here. But please, before lashing injurious speculations come and check out things for yourself! Otherwise these are only speculations made from a few misunderstood words and images on YouTube.
Be at least willing to give the benefit of the doubt and come see for yourself.
There is lots of aggressiveness coming your way and it is not needed. Yes there are cults out there ruining people’s lives but understand that these allegations are really serious in nature and before making such an assumptions and accusations one needs to investigate thoroughly otherwise where is the credibility in all of this?
Anyhow, thank you to the moderator for letting us post replies as it is much appreciated and needed it seems.
It is a sad thing to see people lashing on a person as giving as SwamiG
Hope that any misunderstanding can be rectified by doing the proper homework.
JR
OM
Now, as for the giving of a spiritual name... This has been a tradition in lots of eastern religions like Buddhism or even for Muslims, so this is quite common for millions and millions of people... The spiritual name is a bit like when they called you 'Baloo' in the younger days in the scouts, it represents a quality that one either has or that is lacking...
No offence but it seems to me there is a lot of accusations and allegations going on, based on what proof or tangible/credible evidence? Some go as far to say that probably most in our community are mentally ill and needing professional help, but on what basis or clinical evidence?
Things are most open in this path, people are invited to go directly to GuruG and come to yearly gatherings, and there is absolutely nothing to hide here. But please, before lashing injurious speculations come and check out things for yourself! Otherwise these are only speculations made from a few misunderstood words and images on YouTube.
Be at least willing to give the benefit of the doubt and come see for yourself.
There is lots of aggressiveness coming your way and it is not needed. Yes there are cults out there ruining people’s lives but understand that these allegations are really serious in nature and before making such an assumptions and accusations one needs to investigate thoroughly otherwise where is the credibility in all of this?
Anyhow, thank you to the moderator for letting us post replies as it is much appreciated and needed it seems.
It is a sad thing to see people lashing on a person as giving as SwamiG
Hope that any misunderstanding can be rectified by doing the proper homework.
JR
OM
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
indiaspark
()
Date: September 15, 2010 02:03PM
Quote
Sidha7001
To who it may concern:
The personal Pujari for the Shankiacharia of Conci Purim conducted the Sanyas ceremony according to all due official rights for Guru SwamiG.
When traveling to Conci Purim, Swami G then met the head of the Pujari at Conci Purum whose family was in charge of the temple rights there.
Guru Swami G was in Full Sanyas wear. Even though it was stated no foreigners were allowed, once they saw the photograph with the Pujari conducting the Sanyas ceremony, Guru Swami G was then ushered to the front of the line inside the temple. The head Pujari has also invited Guru Swami G back to engage in further ceremonies.
When the Sanyas ceremony is taken, you are dead to the past, this is part of the vows and Guru Swami G is not going to go back on the vows and answer questions about her previous name- there is no reason to give this out, there is no deep dark secret being hidden.
As far as the rest, I am sorry you don't understand shaktipat and the validity of it. Also, on this path , the students eat meat. We don't want them verging out on carbs like these cults do to the point where they can t think and they are light headed.
You need to understand all the hall marks of a cult. Swami G have been open and told Rick Ross to call, he is more than welcome to come visit and see what is here, there is nothing to hide here.
If one wants to go and make these accusations, one should at least come here and check it out first.
There is no compound, we are not lining up to have the cool aide. Swami G does not tell us she is the center of our universe . She is not the 2cd coming of christ, never claimed to be an avatar- non of that non sense flies here.
Thank you for bringing it up because Swami G will be going back to conci purim very shortly.
Hridaya
@ Ron Fried aka Hridaya
The place is called Kanchipuram not conchi purim ! Are you even aware of the scandals related to this place? There is nothing divine here ! Its the business of money laundering . Sanyas ceremony? As if that is something beyond all of us here. Its nothing but blind faith and they are all charlatans and so is your guru. Dead to the past? That is nonsense. Unfortunately the politicians are deeply involved with these religious institutions in India and places of worship are nothing but casinos with plenty of murder, sex and sleaze scandals. I live in India, and know this for a fact.
Here is a link.
[www.intvlive.com]
Ravi Subramaniam has turned an approver in the Sankararaman murder case, in which Kanchi Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati is the main accused. Sankararaman Anantakrishnasharma worked with the Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham -- arguably, South India's most respected Hindu Math -- for 60 years. He was among the four
men who walked with the late Kanchi Shankaracharya Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati to Kashi from Kanchipuram. Anantakrishnasharma served Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati all his life. The Shankaracharya provided Anantakrishnasharma a one room tenement in the temple town. This Anantakrishnasharma built into a three room house, of which one is a prayer room. When Anantakrishnasharma died, his only child Sankararaman took his place to serve the Kanchi Shankaracharya. But Sankararaman did not apparently get along with Sri Jayendra Saraswati, the junior Shankarcharya, especially after the seer abruptly left the Peetham in August 1987, a decision that has never been adequately explained. Their relationship worsened after Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati died. Sankararaman stopped frequenting the Math as he used to.
He got a job at the Devarajasamy temple. His diligence paid off. For the last seven years he served as the temple's manager. He improved the temple's finances by charging an entrance fee at peak hours, enabling him to pay the shrine's staff on the first of every month. Earlier, the staff got their salary irregularly. The remunerative process became regular, thanks to Sankararaman's foresight.
The junior pontiff was arrested in connection with the murder case on January 10, the day Supreme Court granted bail to Jayendra in the case.
The Madras high court had granted bail to Jayendra in the assault case on January three.
The Madras High Court permitted the Kanchi Mutt to operate its bank accounts frozen by Tamil Nadu police in connection with Sankararaman murder case. Justice K P Sivasubramanian issued the ruling while allowing a writ petition filed by a manager of the mutt, S Mahadevan, to restrain the state government and police from interfering with the mutt's right to manage and administer its affairs, including its bank accounts.
"Religious organisations cannot be paralysed or closed down virtually by freezing their accounts only for the reason that the head of the organisation and a few office-bearers are alleged to be involved in some offences," the judge held.
Referring to the freezing of 183 accounts of the mutt under section 102 of the criminal procedure code, the judge said Parliament had restricted the power under the section to 'specific and narrow limits'.
He said deposits could be brought under the section provided the deposits represented either stolen money or was connected with the commission of any offence. "In short, there must be a nexus to the crime alleged and the money to be seized", the judge said.
He directed the mutt to submit a statement of all its bank accounts to the special investigation team probing the murder case, once a month, till completion of the trial.
The two pontiffs have been charged under Section 302 (murder) of the Indian Penal Code and, if convicted, could attract sentences ranging from three years' rigorous imprisonment to capital punishment.
Asked whether the prosecution case would stand in the court, Premkumar said 40 to 50 witnesses have already given
statements before the magistrate.
Asked whether the Shankaracharya could go to the Sankara Mutt in Kanchipuram now that the charge sheet has been filed, Premkumar said: "I cannot say anything on that now."
Police sources said the charge sheet contained a set of evidences which had not been furnished before the Supreme
Court in connection with the seer's bail plea.
Before filing the charge sheet, the police placed it at the Varadarajaperumal temple, where Sankararaman was murdered.
Apart from the Shankaracharya and his deputy, 23 others have been charged in the case, including Kanchi mutt manager Sundaresa Iyer and Vijayendra Saraswati's brother, Raghu.
The charge sheet running into 1,873 pages was filed by Superintendent of Police Premkumar, who heads the special investigating team probing the murder.While the senior Shankaracharya is on bail after two months in jail, the junior seer is in judicial custody.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2010 02:05PM by indiaspark.
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
Sandman
()
Date: September 15, 2010 03:59PM
Quote
Sidha7001
To who it may concern:
As far as the rest, I am sorry you don't understand shaktipat and the validity of it.
Hi Sidha7001, I for one would be interested to hear your explanation of shaktipat and the validity of it.
Particularly if it can be explained without using religious terminology. I understand that might not be so straightforward but it seems to me that is what could establish its validity beyond the image of it simply being a method of indoctrination and control.
Have there been any scientific studies of the transmission of shaktipat?
Thanks in advance.
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
rrmoderator
()
Date: September 15, 2010 08:46PM
JRHebert:
Please explain Swami G regarding how her organization is run, i.e. bylaws, elected boards, published budget etc.
How does that work?
How does Swami G support herself and how is the money accounted for in the organization?
Is there a charitable nonprofit or what?
Please explain Swami G regarding how her organization is run, i.e. bylaws, elected boards, published budget etc.
How does that work?
How does Swami G support herself and how is the money accounted for in the organization?
Is there a charitable nonprofit or what?
Re: O Guru Swami G, is this a satire?!
Posted by:
The Anticult
()
Date: September 15, 2010 09:10PM
Frankly, this thread was reading as a satire!
Just reading the text from Swami...makes one go into a Trance...now...if you can make it through the paragraphs.
Its the same thing being sold by Eckhart Tolle and about a million other Swamis, literally.
Bad news folks, just detaching from reality and going into a Trance might feel good for a moment of release, but you are opening yourself up to serious manipulation when in that suggestible state.
And those who try to trigger it all day everyday....good night nurse.
Guru Sri Chinmoy was also preaching Kundalini for sale, the man was a outright fraud, in many ways.
Its shocking that such old fashioned methods can still work on people, but sadly they do.
To see the reality of the Swami business, search Google for:
Swami scandal
Just reading the text from Swami...makes one go into a Trance...now...if you can make it through the paragraphs.
Its the same thing being sold by Eckhart Tolle and about a million other Swamis, literally.
Bad news folks, just detaching from reality and going into a Trance might feel good for a moment of release, but you are opening yourself up to serious manipulation when in that suggestible state.
And those who try to trigger it all day everyday....good night nurse.
Guru Sri Chinmoy was also preaching Kundalini for sale, the man was a outright fraud, in many ways.
Its shocking that such old fashioned methods can still work on people, but sadly they do.
To see the reality of the Swami business, search Google for:
Swami scandal
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
SwamiG
()
Date: September 15, 2010 09:46PM
OM ---
You implied i am not a Sadhvi --- but i most certainly am..
Now you pull the guilt by association card. NOT a surprise.
Now if a man becomes a Priest and there are those in that
organization that are heinous does it follow that then by
those standards you are going to judge him as heinous ?
He took the Vows most honorably and is living his life to
the best most sincerely. He may not agree with much that
is being done by others and even if the Pope himself is
the devil incarnate it doesn't follow that you can lay any
charge at this Priests feet...
Did you bother to ASK what is my take on all that is going
on there ? NO --- You just run blindly along with yet another
tirade. i UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES hold to what is being
done there ... Does this negate the fact that Sannyas was
taken in a legitimate way ? NO ... One has a Pujari that
officiates the ceremonies and the Pujari that officiated is
beyond the shadow of a doubt a genuine Pujari. This is
what is being stressed and stated..
As far as how am i being supported.. Is not a teacher
worthy of his hire ? even the bible and ANY religious
organization finds a way to take care of their preceptors..
Be this as it may...
Am self supported so sorry to pull that little drama
out of your hand.. i was in the military and as such
have a stipend... Not that its any of your business.
YES there is a non profit and NONE are paid out
of it. You seem to have some false notion that
HUGE money is coming in... LOOK i am not on any
Satsang circuit.. Am not selling courses -- Not
selling big money retreats or any of the other assorted
nonsense that others engage in... People give donations
a little here and a little there.. Am not Nithyananda have not
taken illegal land or any fortune from anyone... Truth
be known not even enough donations come in that
could keep a roof over my head and food on the table
monthly... NOW All your garbage and trash assertions
and assumptions have been answered... and this
is the last of it.... The funds that come in are used
for paying internet costs and for the basic things needed
to keep things up and running.. Monies are being saved
so that at sometime in the future a small ashram may
be put into place...
You know it's really sad to see that you rick ross are
depending on these atheists who most certainly have
an agenda to cast dispersions and try to cuckold anyone
and anything that pushes their buttons... And you are
right there with an attitude of one is Guilty until proven
innocent EVERY question asked by them is with an
aim to look for something that can be spun. NOW
Why don't they come clean ?
Am most certainly 100 % disgusted with not only the
realm of Religious happenings but also that there are
those who are looking to find demons and cults around
every corner. And if you don't like what someone says
or the way they look etc. the FIRST thing to do is to
begin to yell Cult Cult... Such a nice and convenient
way to take up their time with having to answer allegations
and innuendos -- while these same Upstanding atheists are
out there taking videos mine and others and making extremely
childish voice and text overlays on them and putting
them out -- This doesn't show any stretch of the means
someone that has Rationality but rather just someone
that has their shorts in a knot and is going to blindly
lash out in a most childish manner ---
So this being said Am NOT going to stop doing what is
possible to see the world of Spirituality get cleaned up.
Am sickened by all the so called religious factions
running on political platforms -- they are dangerous -
ugly and will stoop to any underhanded measures.
there is nothing uglier than the hindu platform in india
and the religious right here isn't far behind. They deal
in fear mongering and hate. This is as far away from
true Spirituality as one can get..
Now if you don't like what is here that's fine... don't like
it... BUT don't try and put this cult tag on it so easily.
Have said Rick Ross come spend a couple of days and
FIND OUT what is here and what isn't... If you aren't
willing to do that then maybe ask yourself just how much
you are actually willing to look into what is present ?
Are you really that hell bent on proclaiming something to
be a cult because one uses mantras ? You don't understand
Shaktipat and so it MUST be either drugs or hypnosis ?
If you knew anything about me you would know am also
very outspoken against hypnosis ... As have seen hypnosis
misused and has caused the downfall and is putting into
place false stories.. the mind will want to create something
when hypnosis is done and the one doing the hypnosis asks
*** leading **** questions which the mind will then create
a story to fill... So once again you are barking up the wrong
tree here...
Am not popular because i stress one should be eating meat
Especially when doing meditation - WHY ? because taking
high carbs and without enough protein the brain doesn't
work well and this is one of the tactics of YES cults.. to
keep people away from protein ... i want people in their
right minds and grounded not flighty and airy fairy.
i am not proclaiming to be anyones savior - the second
coming - or an avatar or any other the other BS
that cults want to proclaim their leaders (?) to be..
Am not wanting people to gather around me like hangers on
as am very private and you have to go live your own life...
People aren't being told to leave their families such as
cults are want to do... Morality is stressed 100 % to
the degree that it is said have some backbone and
don't be jumping into bed at the drop of a hat -- respect
yourself and respect others.
Now really isn't it time to put the shoe on the other foot
maybe question in depth the ones that are coming here
to sling mud... they come and want to do whatever is
possible to cast doubt - just what is so threatening to
them and their atheistic free thinkers agenda ? Here
i tell people just that --- Someone else cannot run their
lives.. That they have to Prove for themselves whether
or not God exists -- Stop running and quit looking for
something external to save you whether this be a person
or god or gods etc. The conditioned mind keeps one
spinning and what one clings to or rejects is what is in
the drivers seat. You can't go beyond something you
are not willing to encounter or see directly... So number
one Stop running from yourself.. Begin by living with
Honesty - Integrity and Transparency.. First get honest
with yourself.. And this is what i will leave you and your
forum with today... STOP and look at what is driving
you.. Find out what is within yourself that causes these
knee jerk reactions that want to lash out YES maybe you
have been hurt or have been involved in a cult but this
doesn't mean that every organization or teacher or guru
is a cult... For those who say they are rationalists - how
rational is it to just be blindly striking out at something
and someone simply because you don't like the way
something is presented ? You say that i have to PROVE
everything to you as far as Kundalini is real etc. Well
i say to you prove that it is not.. i say to others you
think this is fake --- you think that it's all made up
well it's easy to sit back and crow but have you actually
walked the walk to find out ? The answer to this is no...
One could say i am a rationalist because what is being
spoken of here has come out of not books - not held
to doctrines - not belief systems -- but in actually walking
the walk to find OUT IF what the Sages have said is true..
IF what the various texts of spirituality have said are true
or bogus... And YES they can be born out... Don't accept
any of it blindly ---- but be willing to make the journey.
OM Shanti
You implied i am not a Sadhvi --- but i most certainly am..
Now you pull the guilt by association card. NOT a surprise.
Now if a man becomes a Priest and there are those in that
organization that are heinous does it follow that then by
those standards you are going to judge him as heinous ?
He took the Vows most honorably and is living his life to
the best most sincerely. He may not agree with much that
is being done by others and even if the Pope himself is
the devil incarnate it doesn't follow that you can lay any
charge at this Priests feet...
Did you bother to ASK what is my take on all that is going
on there ? NO --- You just run blindly along with yet another
tirade. i UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES hold to what is being
done there ... Does this negate the fact that Sannyas was
taken in a legitimate way ? NO ... One has a Pujari that
officiates the ceremonies and the Pujari that officiated is
beyond the shadow of a doubt a genuine Pujari. This is
what is being stressed and stated..
As far as how am i being supported.. Is not a teacher
worthy of his hire ? even the bible and ANY religious
organization finds a way to take care of their preceptors..
Be this as it may...
Am self supported so sorry to pull that little drama
out of your hand.. i was in the military and as such
have a stipend... Not that its any of your business.
YES there is a non profit and NONE are paid out
of it. You seem to have some false notion that
HUGE money is coming in... LOOK i am not on any
Satsang circuit.. Am not selling courses -- Not
selling big money retreats or any of the other assorted
nonsense that others engage in... People give donations
a little here and a little there.. Am not Nithyananda have not
taken illegal land or any fortune from anyone... Truth
be known not even enough donations come in that
could keep a roof over my head and food on the table
monthly... NOW All your garbage and trash assertions
and assumptions have been answered... and this
is the last of it.... The funds that come in are used
for paying internet costs and for the basic things needed
to keep things up and running.. Monies are being saved
so that at sometime in the future a small ashram may
be put into place...
You know it's really sad to see that you rick ross are
depending on these atheists who most certainly have
an agenda to cast dispersions and try to cuckold anyone
and anything that pushes their buttons... And you are
right there with an attitude of one is Guilty until proven
innocent EVERY question asked by them is with an
aim to look for something that can be spun. NOW
Why don't they come clean ?
Am most certainly 100 % disgusted with not only the
realm of Religious happenings but also that there are
those who are looking to find demons and cults around
every corner. And if you don't like what someone says
or the way they look etc. the FIRST thing to do is to
begin to yell Cult Cult... Such a nice and convenient
way to take up their time with having to answer allegations
and innuendos -- while these same Upstanding atheists are
out there taking videos mine and others and making extremely
childish voice and text overlays on them and putting
them out -- This doesn't show any stretch of the means
someone that has Rationality but rather just someone
that has their shorts in a knot and is going to blindly
lash out in a most childish manner ---
So this being said Am NOT going to stop doing what is
possible to see the world of Spirituality get cleaned up.
Am sickened by all the so called religious factions
running on political platforms -- they are dangerous -
ugly and will stoop to any underhanded measures.
there is nothing uglier than the hindu platform in india
and the religious right here isn't far behind. They deal
in fear mongering and hate. This is as far away from
true Spirituality as one can get..
Now if you don't like what is here that's fine... don't like
it... BUT don't try and put this cult tag on it so easily.
Have said Rick Ross come spend a couple of days and
FIND OUT what is here and what isn't... If you aren't
willing to do that then maybe ask yourself just how much
you are actually willing to look into what is present ?
Are you really that hell bent on proclaiming something to
be a cult because one uses mantras ? You don't understand
Shaktipat and so it MUST be either drugs or hypnosis ?
If you knew anything about me you would know am also
very outspoken against hypnosis ... As have seen hypnosis
misused and has caused the downfall and is putting into
place false stories.. the mind will want to create something
when hypnosis is done and the one doing the hypnosis asks
*** leading **** questions which the mind will then create
a story to fill... So once again you are barking up the wrong
tree here...
Am not popular because i stress one should be eating meat
Especially when doing meditation - WHY ? because taking
high carbs and without enough protein the brain doesn't
work well and this is one of the tactics of YES cults.. to
keep people away from protein ... i want people in their
right minds and grounded not flighty and airy fairy.
i am not proclaiming to be anyones savior - the second
coming - or an avatar or any other the other BS
that cults want to proclaim their leaders (?) to be..
Am not wanting people to gather around me like hangers on
as am very private and you have to go live your own life...
People aren't being told to leave their families such as
cults are want to do... Morality is stressed 100 % to
the degree that it is said have some backbone and
don't be jumping into bed at the drop of a hat -- respect
yourself and respect others.
Now really isn't it time to put the shoe on the other foot
maybe question in depth the ones that are coming here
to sling mud... they come and want to do whatever is
possible to cast doubt - just what is so threatening to
them and their atheistic free thinkers agenda ? Here
i tell people just that --- Someone else cannot run their
lives.. That they have to Prove for themselves whether
or not God exists -- Stop running and quit looking for
something external to save you whether this be a person
or god or gods etc. The conditioned mind keeps one
spinning and what one clings to or rejects is what is in
the drivers seat. You can't go beyond something you
are not willing to encounter or see directly... So number
one Stop running from yourself.. Begin by living with
Honesty - Integrity and Transparency.. First get honest
with yourself.. And this is what i will leave you and your
forum with today... STOP and look at what is driving
you.. Find out what is within yourself that causes these
knee jerk reactions that want to lash out YES maybe you
have been hurt or have been involved in a cult but this
doesn't mean that every organization or teacher or guru
is a cult... For those who say they are rationalists - how
rational is it to just be blindly striking out at something
and someone simply because you don't like the way
something is presented ? You say that i have to PROVE
everything to you as far as Kundalini is real etc. Well
i say to you prove that it is not.. i say to others you
think this is fake --- you think that it's all made up
well it's easy to sit back and crow but have you actually
walked the walk to find out ? The answer to this is no...
One could say i am a rationalist because what is being
spoken of here has come out of not books - not held
to doctrines - not belief systems -- but in actually walking
the walk to find OUT IF what the Sages have said is true..
IF what the various texts of spirituality have said are true
or bogus... And YES they can be born out... Don't accept
any of it blindly ---- but be willing to make the journey.
OM Shanti
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