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Re: Anastasia- Ringing Cedars of Russia
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Date: September 13, 2011 10:33PM

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Sep 10 2006, 05:43 PM

Has anybody heard about Anastasia and The Ringing Cedars phenomenon blasted in Russia about 10 years ago and is spreading now all over the world?
Sep 12 2006, 12:45 AM

The ideas presented in the books are called philosophy of Life.
There is young girl named Anastasia living in Siberian Cedar forest that possesses incredible knowledge and who discloses this knowledge through V.Megre in his book series "The Ringing Cedars of Russia". Millions of readers all over the world (it's been translated into 20 languages), hundreds of poems and drawings created by inspired people and eco-villages sprouting all over Russia by people aspiring to create their Space of Love...

Some people consider this to be a new National Idea of Russia...

You can find more on my website []
and some annotations of the books []
You can read some chapters of the books from my website.
Sep 13 2006, 01:39 PM

If we serious put a thought, it's not about the philosophy but rather it's about a hidden agenda put forwards to Russians at large.

Sep 13 2006, 04:06 PM

If something comes out of Russia it's probably bullshit, unless it's chess or mathematics
Sep 13 2006, 04:23 PM

Or great literature: Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Gogol, Bulgakin, Charms, ... But they do seem to have a tendency to fall for strange kinds of mysticism. Rasputin.... This guy....
Sep 13 2006, 05:37 PM

It's probably the most (or one of the most) superstitious countries.
Sep 13 2006, 05:57 PM

The United States of America?
Sep 13 2006, 10:11 PM

I see this as business couched in fantasy oriented mysticism. Look around on the site-- they are selling all these special cedar oils and shit like that.
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Date: September 13, 2011 10:39PM

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Department of Neurology


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Re: Anastasia- Ringing Cedars of Russia
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 13, 2011 10:57PM

From some dialogue by persons already anxious about the future and apt to utilize theories that are non mainstream and of the sort that cannot be disproved.



Revenge said...
fa... sorry bout the poltergiest.

mf... your words are time capsule worthy!!

langosta... meet Anastasia...

A phenomenon has been sweeping Russia since 1996. With the translation of the "Ringing Cedars of Russia" series of nine books by Vladimir Megre into English the phenomenon is spreading to America. The phenomenon is HOPE. Hope for a better future.

The eighth book has now been translated and the contents are aimed at restoring American faith in the promise of America.

There is a woman in Siberia named Anastasia who has caused a stir in Russia. Some claim she is an invention of Vladimir Megre. Some claim Megre has created a cult but whatever Anastasia is or whoever she is, a wave has been stirred and thought has changed. A tsunami of love has lifted the tortured soul of Russia.

In Book One "Anastasia" we are introduced to the Siberian recluse. She lives in a glade in the taiga near the Ob River. Her roots to the land go back many generations even before the Tsars. This is the same area of Siberia where Rasputin was born. Anastasia's ability to survive in the wild is remarkable. Her clarity of thought is a miracle. She has full access to the akasha as an adept, and many ways she is functioning beyond adept levels.

In the first book Vladimir Megre learns how to write. He tells a story so improbable for fiction that it most certainly is based on actual events. A 550 year old Siberian Cedar is ringing and two grandfathers travel the Ob to find men to fell the tree. The qualities of the Siberian Cedar, its wood, its nuts and its oil are researched by Megre the entrepreneur and he returns the next year to the same shore of the Ob to find a woman waiting for him. She knew he was coming. Over the next days Vladimir's view of himself and the world is changed. Ancient truths are brought forward.

Vladimir is part of Anastasia's plan to change the gloom and doom scenario that may arise if those who claim to control the world succeed in their plans. She is battling those I have written about in "Four Crows Remain". She is winning. She is the reason why just four crows remain.

We learn of her beloved "dachniks".

In 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed, the whole banking system and state controlled apparatus was in disarray. Tens of millions were out of work and there was no money to buy food. Millions of Russians applied for land and were loaned 300 square meters of farmland in which they could grow vegetables.

These gardeners called "dachniks" fed 186 million and created a love that rekindled the spirit of "Rodina" or "Mother Russia". Anastasia tells that the Russians reconnected to "Mother Earth" and the strength of the "Sacred Grove" was rediscovered.

In Salmon Arm we have witnessed the miracle of Anastasia in an 85 year old woman named Pat. She was bedridden and grumpy. Reading the seven books available her attitude changed. She is walking. She is not grumpy. She is planning a garden and in spring she will warm seeds in her mouth before planting.

Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone

January 28, 2008 11:59 PM

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Re: Anastasia- Ringing Cedars of Russia
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 13, 2011 11:06PM

Ringing Cedars---A Vison of Schooling for Children



There are many alternatives to the school jails I had to visit as a kid and which still exists for our kids. In one of the books of the Ringing Cedars of Russia Vladimir Megre writes about a school as designed according to a vision Academician Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin had had and he also realized it. []



“to read them has been an amazing experience”
An edited excerpt from the books…

This forest school completely redefines our understanding of “education” !
At this school the children have designed, built, and decorated their own campus — without adult supervision! They cover the entire high-school math curriculum in one year and get official Master's degrees by the time they are seventeen. They cook their own meals, do the administrative work, and write their own textbooks. These students come and go as they please and their parents pay no tuition fees!

Megré describes his first visit to Tekos…

“… A narrow gravel road led from the main highway into the forest, to a valley nestled amidst the mountain peaks. The road soon came to an end in front of a most unusual two-storey mansion. It was still under construction. From one of the still frameless window openings wafted the sounds of children’s voices singing a Russian folk song.

“This building was part of the vision Anastasia had showed me back in the taiga forest, but now it was an altogether real experience.

“Without a word to anyone I made my way through various construction materials to touch this mansion with my own hands.

“As I approached, I saw a little girl, about ten years old, climbing deftly down a ladder. She went over to a pile of river pebbles and began selecting and dropping stones into an old herring tin. When she started back up the ladder, I climbed up after her, in the direction of the alluring music pouring forth from above.

“There on the second floor I watched as a group of kids like her, some a little older, were taking smooth pebbles out of a box and attaching them with a cement mixture to the wall, making an amazingly beautiful pattern. Two little girls at once carefully washed off each newly attached stone with damp rags. They set about their tasks in earnest, singing as they worked. No adults were present.

“Later I found out that the whole foundation, indeed, each brick of this structure, had been laid by a child’s hand. The children had come up with the whole design by themselves, including every corner of their building.

“And this is not the only such building on the little campus. In this amazing setting children are constructing not only their buildings, their campus, but their whole future in the process.

“And they sing! Here a ten-year-old girl is capable of building a house, doing splendid drawings and cooking meals, not to mention knowing ballroom dance steps and mastering the fundamentals of Russian martial arts.3

“The children of this forest school are acquainted with Anastasia. They themselves told me about her. Three hundred pupils from different Russian cities study here.

“At this school children take but a year to master the whole ten-year public-school maths syllabus, along with studying three foreign languages. They neither recruit nor produce child prodigies. They simply give the kids a chance to discover what already lies within.

“Academician Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin’s school comes under the Russian Federation’s Ministry of Education. It charges no tuition fees. Even though the school does not advertise itself, it has no vacancies. Indeed, there is already a waiting list of 2,500 hopefuls for an unexpected opening.

“It is hard to find words to describe the joy on these children’s beaming faces… (cont'd)

* * *
Megré talks to one of the students:
“One gets the impression that each brick of your building here is filled with the bright energy of a great power.”

“Yes, that’s true,” answered an older, red-haired girl. “So much depends on the people who touch them. We have done all this with love, we are trying with our mental attitude to bring only what is good and happy to our future.”

“Who designed this building, the columns and paintings?”

“This was the result of our united, collective thinking.”

“Does that mean that while each one is outwardly working on their own individual task, in actual fact it represents a collective thought?”
“That’s right. Every evening we get together and plan out, or visualise, the day ahead. We come up with the images we want to see expressed in the design of our mansion. Some of the pupils here take on the role of architect — they give specific form to our common work, tie it all together.”

“What image is expressed in the room we’re standing in now?”

“The image of Svarog2 — the primordial element of heavenly fire. You can see him here in the symbols, in the pebble amulets.”

“Does your group recognise one of its own as a principal or superior?”

“We do have a leader, but by and large it is the collective thought that is at work here — lava, we call it.”

“Say that again — thought is lava?”

“That’s right — a state of mind, an image, a desire.”

“Do you all work with such great delight, everybody smiling, everybody with such sparkling eyes — everybody so cheerful?”

“Yes, our life is like that, since we are doing what we want, doing what we can, doing what we love to do.”

“You said each stone has its own pulse and rhythm?”

“Yes, and this pulse beats once a day — just once.”

“Is it like that with all stones, or do some beat twice a day?”

“Every stone’s pulse beats once a day.”

“Doesn’t it seem to you that your mansion is something like a temple?”

“A temple is not a form, but a state of mind. For example, the cupolas — they simply help you access a particular state of mind. The form is moulded by feeling. And it is not by chance that the form of a cupola or hipped roof came to us — they represent our aspirations for heaven and the descent of Heavenly Grace.”

“This building, where every stone is laid with a good thought, is it able to heal?”

“Of course.”

“And does it heal?”

“Yes, it does… (cont'd)”

* * *

In the Ringing Cedars Series, Anastasia completely redefines the concept of “education”. She insists that universal knowledge is accessible to each of us — and she steers us toward an entirely new model of education whereby children are taught to look within to find their own innate questions and answers. She reveals to the author the existence of this “forest school” where children, by using the methods she describes, are accomplishing results beyond our wildest dreams.

You can read much more about this school in these books and then watch a 30 minute DVD, available here. The words and images of these children will move you to tears — and touch the very core of your being — as you are reminded of the extraordinary beauty within every human being.

* * *

1. Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin (1944 — ) Director (principal) of the Tekos School near Gelendzhik. Originally a music teacher by profession, Mikhail Petrovich has had a long and distinguished career in experimental education. The recipient of several awards, in 1991 he was honoured with the title Akademik (Academician) by the Russian Academy of Education.

* * *
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2. Svarog — in Russian and Slavic mythology, the god of fire, the father and divine light of celestial and earthly fires, who created (Russian: svarganil) our Universe (Sanskrit and ancient Russian: svarga). Svarog fought and captured a giant malicious serpent or dragon (Zmey), which he used to pull a plough, separating the land of the living (or the visible world,Yav) from the land of the dead (or the invisible world, Nav) and thus establish order (or Rightness, Prav). In Christianity he is associated with, among others, the Archangel Michael.

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Re: Anastasia- Ringing Cedars of Russia
Posted by: diniz ()
Date: February 17, 2012 05:10AM


Final note: Agnew reported there was a high rate of relationship and marriage break ups among back to landers.

If your husband wont see reality on this one, you will have to decide whether its better to face this while still in town, rather than face it when you're miles away on a mud road
with a pile of bills and an unkind universe that has sent a tree falling on top of your shed or house--another situation mentioned in Back From the Land.

Hi Corboy, Rick and everyone. I did read the Ringing Cedars books and they really are not about going out into the Widerness like the story in Alaska that was mentioned. They are more about repairing the damage we have done in the cities and to the agricultural lands. It might suggest a general spreading out so people have larger gardens then they have now but nothing about isolation and certainly not becoming impoverished. The books do not suggest that one should abstain from money and there are plenty of opportunities to make money such as providing the highest quality organic food products. Relationships can be improved by working together on creating a home and future together but it could also be that some relationships are not suited to such changes if one party is not interested in changing. There is a great deal of relationship breakups in the mainstream western culture especially in the US and the rate of divorce has been increasing. Also various studies have found higher divorce rates in urban areas.

Regarding the opening post it does not resonate as a genuine story to me. It sounds too much like an attack and suggestive. There really isn't any reason to believe it is true and I would question why a women would get pregnant with a man if she were seriously? contemplating divorce.

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Posted by: Misstyk ()
Date: February 21, 2012 08:59AM

Hi, seriously? From the very start, I wanted to ask if your husband was Russian. Now we know. This sort of thing has always been big in Russia. Mysticism, the purity of the land, Mother Russia, Siberia as a magical and potentially utopian place, this and more runs deep in the Russian soul. There's such an inner longing for this (that individuals may not even be aware of until something triggers that in them) that pseudo-religious or mystical movements can be irresistible. Sorry it happened to you.

Carlos Castenada is also popular in Russia, especially among healers and occult types. Now that this kind of information is available from the West, people are eating it up.

Remember, it's Russia that gave us Gurdjieff, Ouspensky, Blavatsky. Tolstoy was cut of similar fabric.

diniz, about those high-quality organic food products--isn't food grown in Russia already organic? I had the impression they don't need chemical pesticides, because the soil is so rich, plants are healthy enough to fight off bugs. That's what I've observed in people's gardens, anyway. I don't know about the old collective farms, but Russia couldn't really afford the West's Agricultural Revolution formula anyway, and I don't think Russia needed it. US soil, on the other hand, was depleted of nutrients already by 1915, according to a Congressional investigation back then.

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Posted by: diniz ()
Date: February 28, 2012 07:51PM

Some food is organic but a lot of the produce in the supermarkets is not and there are other issues. Food should be as fresh as possible and a system designed for making money rather than food is not concerned with freshness. Linings in tinned foods contain bisphenol-A for example which is a carcinogen. Foods that are convenient to grow in monocultures are grown rather than a wide variety of foods or those that are most beneficial. Then there is ofcourse efforts to preserve food using chemicals that can be harmful, colourings, flavourings, irradiation etc. Essentially the system seeks to protect and perpetuate itself and is not concerned with the health, freedom or wellbeing of humanity.

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Posted by: corboy ()
Date: December 20, 2012 09:24PM

An article on another Russian sect mentioned something about what they call 'Tingling Cedars of Russia'


not to be confused with the Siberian goddess Anastasia, known as the Sister of Jesus Christ, a naked blonde deity documented by mystical literature througout the past decade.

" Over the past three years, the Anastasia legend has inspired thousands of disillusioned Russians to join a new-age exodus to the woods and countryside across the nation. Known as the "Anastasia Back-to-Land Movement," or the "Tingling Cedar Movement," its followers relocate to eco-villages (called "Kin's Domains"), where they plant cedar trees to serve as antennas to connect to "space of love." Some Anastasia followers meditate naked under the trees.

"We escaped from big cities to create new social models, as the state systems have been destroyed by liars and outrageously corrupt managers," says Dmitry Ivanov, a former army colonel who lives in one of the Kin Domains.


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Posted by: diniz ()
Date: December 21, 2012 10:27PM

What could be wrong with being naked in your own garden. Maybe there is even some truth in the statement and there really are some Russians who meditate naked but the reason to include such an observation in an article is what interests me here. Could it possibly be an attempt to discredit a movement. Certainly the terms sect and cult would also serve that purpose scaring people off but to those of us who are open minded it would require much more to reach any kind of conclusion. The simple lable of something by who knows who or what their agenda may be would not be justification on its own. Certainly from what I have read the ideas in these books are quite mainstream such that there is already a region of Russia that is making land available free of charge and with the right of inheritance. That is something concrete which I am sure is much more interesting to people than the naked person meditating if indeed their is such a person. The only thing now is to make more land available all over the world so that we can put this planet right and build the foundations of a bright future. Now that really something to get excited about.

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Re: Anastasia- Ringing Cedars of Russia
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: December 21, 2012 10:56PM


"Certainly the terms sect and cult would also serve that purpose scaring people"?

Not really, these are words that describe certain groups.

See []

Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, who wrote the definitive book about thought reform (often called "brainwashing") also wrote a paper about cult formation. Lifton defined a cult as having the following three characteristics:

A charismatic leader, who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose power.

A process [is in use] call[ed] coercive persuasion or thought reform.

Economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.

Frankly you seem to be here as an apologist.

Do you really have any other interest? You just seem to be putting out a positive spin for this Russian group.

FYI -- Your attack of the initial account on this thread was in violation of the rules that you agreed to before posting at this message board, which specifically preclude attacking members of the board personally.

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