I dont know how much of this applies, but long ago, we came up with a term
'strategic rejection'.

[forum.culteducation.com]

Am not sure how much this older entry matches up with what you have seen.

But that after so very many years people feel afraid to exercise their first amendment rights to discuss an important part of their lives, even with the protection of a computer handle, signals that a huge degree of fear and shame was inplanted into their psyches during time in this group.

Reminds me of the image of having a dog on an extensible leash, vs the old fashioned fixed length leash. On the extensible model, the dog seems to have more freedom, but is still leashed.

At least their speech remains 'on a leash'.

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I dont know how much of this applies, but long ago, we came up with a term
'strategic rejection'.

[forum.culteducation.com]

Am not sure how much this older entry matches up with what you have seen.

But that after so very many years people feel afraid to exercise their first amendment rights to discuss an important part of their lives, even with the protection of a computer handle, signals that a huge degree of fear and shame was inplanted into their psyches during time in this group.

Reminds me of the image of having a dog on an extensible leash, vs the old fashioned fixed length leash. On the extensible model, the dog seems to have more freedom, but is still leashed.

At least their speech remains 'on a leash'.

Threats to cadres included threats to harm family members, and this is not something that anyone can ignore. In Massachusetts those threats meshed closely with the corrupt and violent politics of Berkshire County. Everyone who became visibly identified with WMLA would encounter strong suspicion because of the general population's awareness of this cancerous growth that could not be removed, and upon leaving, who wouldn't hesitate to speak up for fear of worse consequences? Everyone who worked inside the WMLA office who was local, and not a Williams College kid, could see the payola channels and could also see the entire criminal underbelly exposed there.

Pittsfield, after all, was the site of the deliberate distribution of PCB soil to the local schools and homes, and GE managed to get all of America to think it all happened accidentally in the Hudson instead of deliberately in the Housatonic valley

[www.google.com]


This may look like a non-sequiter, but it is simply an illustration of the incredible disinformation and corruption that provides the soil in which NatLFed thrives. NatLFed's threats against families of members were always connected to known real-world personalities who could, and did, get away with murder.

Otherwise, how can you explain that the same person who was responsible for the mass-death that resulted from the deliberate distribution of the PCB soil is now one of the left-liberal media gurus, Jack Welch?

Think about it. NatLFED is an organization with its ideological roots in genocidal Stalinist politics, and it has one of its most continuously successful, thriving "entities" right there, trading all the favors that made that PCB spill possible.

How can anyone avoid thinking of Sarin and Aum Shinrikio??!!!

Please, do not try to place NatLFed in the same category as a minor pamphleteering cult. It is a major cult, on the same scale as Al Queda or the Nazi party or Aum Shinrikio, worse even than Jim Jones' temple.

Had trouble placing an active link for those wanting to read the article.

Google 'charitable front' and NATLFED'

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There is one thing that I will admit about the comments in the San Francisco Weekly. True, a couple of the people making comments are NATLFED ex-cadres, regulars who devote some time to speak the truth about NATLFED in various blogging communities. It has also encouraged some "different blood" if you will to step forward and add to the discussion. It hasn't degenerated into the typical poisonous discussions that afflict most discussions. At least not yet.

Articles about NATLFED organizations and affiliated operations tend to generate comments over a long period of time. We'll have to see about Mr. Smith's article. Being a San Francisco paper, of course they are more interested in Physician's Organizing Committee and made some effort at speaking to the national scope of the Party. Years from now POC will continue to claim the victory, impress the hell out of someone looking to make a difference and suck them into the Party. That's the way they operate. Eastern Farm Workers Association still sucks in college students at Stony Brook with its victory tale of the IM Young strike that started in 1972-1973.

I'm going to use NATLFED jargon for a moment. The effort with the hospital in San Francisco is what the Party calls a target of opportunity. It's not part of the Party strategy but merely an opportunity for the Party to insert itself into a situation and take the lead for the benefit of the Party. The Party will claim it led a hegemonious front. Then they will describe the vingh in San Francisco as revolutionary because they drew others into this front and achieved a victory. San Francisco is just one of many arenas that the Party struggles to wage the revolution.

Yes, POC will use the victory to recruit cadres and raise monies. It doesn't matter if they were really at the lead of this particular situation or just got on board and took all of the credit. The Party writes its own history, and as the Party considers itself winners, they write it from that vantage point. They don't talk about some of the losses as they really happened, such as the death of a cadre that could have been prevented if they had just allowed that cadre to get medical attention.

This is food for thought. You will of course take it with a grain of salt as it is my opinion, someone who was in for sixteen years, practically raised by the Party, someone who was hurt by the Party and someone who can still get pretty angry. Some dismiss what I have to say altogether because Gino was my father and they think I'm a con artist, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree you know.

Mary Struggler

Thank you corboy for helping find links.

The older story was in Christian Century magazine and also was retold in the "Public Eye" series, but ironically the left-leaning critics, who could be the most discerning about NatLFed's true fascist colors, seem often to move into aplogetics and trying to make it look like a sadly incompetent instead of successfully dangerous organization.

Thank you Mary. I think it is good to put the jargon out there because people need to be alert to the game the jargon is supporting.

I don't feel like opening my old box of material to find all the words NatLFed used as jargon, but they had the differentiation between "members" and "volunteers", between "volunteers" and "cadres", and there was another word I can't remember that they used for the individuals whose positions NatLFed supported for favors traded, these would be doctors in the POC case, and local officials or other public figures in most cases.

NatLFed has a very effective way of keeping the people in each category from seeing the whole picture, unless an individual is especially inquisitive. Especially the supported experts, who in most cases are too busy with their own work and campaigns to pay close attention to NatLFed games.

According to the manual, the term for moving a person from one level to another was to "violate".

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Especially the supported experts, who in most cases are too busy with their own work and campaigns to pay close attention to NatLFed games.

(Groan)

That is pretty much how many members of the great and good of the liberal elite in San Francisco supported Jim Jones. Now, thirty one years ago, we had little experience as yet about cults.

But one would think that after decades of damage reports, officials and professionals would take more trouble to run a Google search.

Professionals and students in professional schools need to be told again and yet again
that they are like rich widows or divorcees.

Folks and groups 'on the make' see such persons as high value recruits. Anyone who is a professional or even a student at a professional school, has the wealth of derivative legitimacy. Nothing's more reassuring than to have a doctor or lawyer's name on your sponsor list.

The problem is, anyone who is working their butts off filling out forms for insurance companies, HMOs and MediCare, or are working thier butts off to get into medical school or law school, or graduate from such places, often do not have the time to get out and learn much about basic street smarts, or ever imagine that they're prime marks for hustlers.

Years ago, in college, I knew a very mercenary girl who was determined to marry a doctor and had decided not to date premed students. Who could be sure the guy would even get into medical school?

So, she cunningly camped in the medical library at a nearby university, studying there and angling to snag one of the medical students.

Cult recruiters are just as opportunistic, and go after persons who are highly trained, with lots of social respectability and whose years in the professional rat race have left them little time to even know what cults and hustlers are..or that professionals are prize recruits--bishops and kings and queens on the Great Chessboard.

Why I dislike NATLFED.

Because, according to YELP some POC recruiters reportedly put one of thier fundraising tables on top of a memorial set up for Del Martin, who was a mighty tower of strength and both medical and activist wisdom during the 1980s 1990s plague years of the AIDS epidemic.

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San Francisco, CA
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I just read in disgust on an e-mail list I belong to that these jerks from the Physicians Organizing Committee came to the Castro this weekend to set up a table at 18th and Castro to promote their organization. The location is traditionally a spot for the recently deceased to be honored with flowers and loving messages. Usually the recently departed are people important to the neighborhood and community. But Friday, the Physicians Organizing Committee set up their table ON TOP of the spontaneous Del Martin shrine!! They became belligerent and rude when informed of their sacrilege claiming it was a "public space" and they discouraged mourners from placing flowers there! They obvious don't deserve respect if they refuse to show respect! What losers!

People thought this was:

I am old enough to remember the horror years of the AIDS epidemic, when there was no effective treatment, and when if you had not seen a friend for a few months, you feared the person had gotten sick and died.

Or you would hear of someone who had a cold that wouldnt go away, went to the doctor, was sent right to the hospital and within days, was in respiratory failure, on a respirator and dead.

Later, as PWAs lived longer, we saw how they limped through the street, frail, escorted by a home health care worker. Others dared not go for a walk, because they were covered with purple Kaposi's Sarcoma lesions. One man with KS made the mistake of going to his small town to die. A bank teller screamed in horror when she saw his face, and our friend fled in shame to his room, and did not leave it until he died and was rolled out, feet first, for burial.

In the midst of this living hell, with a Presidential Administration that refused to talk publicly about the epidemic, Lyndon La Rouche suggested quarantine camps for
the already stigmatized gay and AIDS groups. Talk about kicking folks when they're already down.

It was taking everyones limited energy to fight for care for People with AIDS and here folks were in California, having to divert money and energy to fight off Lyndon La Rouche.

[lyndonlarouche.org]

America's Hitler? Behind the California AIDS Initiative
By DENNIS KING

New York Native, November 3, 1986

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Del Martin was one of our supports during this terrible time.

So, I dont trust political cults that employ any human being as use and dispose.

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So, I dont trust political cults that employ any human being as use and dispose.

NatLFed is all about use-and-dispose.

An off-topic moment: I want to share a story about a man I knew only as "Grizzly" who had Karposi's. I was hiking the AT at the border between Massachusetts and Vermont one summer in the 1990's. I had a very close encounter with a very big black bear on the bluff near Williamstown and hightailed it as fast as I could to the shelter north of the border. One of the things that inspired my speed was when I leaned over to measure her footprint with my hand, it was larger than my hand, and I suddenly realized that I was watching water seep into the deeper parts of it, that is how fresh the print in the mud was!

So anyway, I made it to the shelter in record time in the middle of the day and once I got there I crashed over backwards on the deck of the open lean-to and went to sleep in the sun. I was awakened by the sound of a group of young men falling over each other running into the camp, exclaiming over the size of the bear prints along that trail. They stopped, greeted me, then went back looking for "Griz".

Later that evening Griz told his story. He was spending his last weeks on earth hiking to Katahdin, the mountain that concludes all successful AT hikes. He was a mountaineer from North Carolina and one side of his face was all Karposi's. His group was a cluster of young hikers who fell in step with him as he made his way up the trail and were beginning to pack his gear for him so that he could finish.

Every time someone talks about those days of AIDS, I remember Griz and those hikers, and it is like a crystal tableau that contains all the sadness and courage of everyone in that time.

BTW, not totally off-topic. I was on the trail because NatLFed cadres related to the feminist art scene in Pittsfield had arranged an attack on me and I was facing a trial that september for the crime of getting jumped and assaulted by two of them during one of their "Take Back The Night" marches.

Yes, NatLFed does control the "Take Back The Night" org as one of their fronts and that cult IS extremely dangerous and viscious.



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Take Back the Night

NATLFED attracted many feminists in its early period of organizing. I don't remember any formal alliance with Take Back the Night but it is certainly plausible.

Despite attracting feminists, women in NATLFED were subjected to violence. Some of the more strong-willed women were beaten into submission. Others were forced into sexual liaisons because of circumstances. Still others were outright raped, something that was not effectively dealt with by leadership.

I can see how some former female cadres would choose to support Take Back the Night.

Mary Struggler