This thread listed Kalu R, Sogyal R, Lama Choedak (
Sakya)
To that list of controversial lamas or groups can be added Ole Nydahl (
Kagu)
Chogyam Trungpa and his successor, Osel or Ozel Tenzin(
Kagyu/Ri-Med)
Catherine Burroughs (Jetsunma Akhon Lahmo)(
Palyul Nyingma)
Michael Roach (obtained derivative legitimacy from the
Gelukpa, now disowned by them)
New Kadampa Tradition (NKP)
A discussion here on a Formosan venue goes into quite interesting directions.
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Re: Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism; Lamas are not Buddhists.
Postby Tantrismuskritik » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:12
Buddhism wrote:Do you know so many inside stories about Tibetan “Buddhism”
There are some reports if you google:
1. The Canadian documentary film: In the Name of Enlightenment
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj4ALQej ... re=related)
A Buddhist Master (Sogyal Rinpoche) beloved by millions uses his position and authority to take advantage of young women. For over three decades, complaints are dismissed as the grumblings of the uninitiated. A Guru focused on his own pleasure turns the path to enlightenment into the road to sexual servitude.
2. The Austrilian Victim Venerable Tenpa Bejanke
(http://www.nondualitymagazine.org/nondu ... rview.html)
She is one of the women who recently reported to the Canberra Times (May 1, 2011) the unethical behaviour of a highly respected teacher named Lama Choedak, a Rinpoche, (precious one) the Spiritual Director of SLCD and the founder of Sakya International Buddhist Academy.
3. The English journalist Mary Finnigan: Lama sex abuse claims call Buddhist taboos into question
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... e-buddhist)
Samuel says that although this arcane version of sacred sex is present in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures, it should not be confused with the modern neo-tantra movement and nor is it appropriate for recent converts to Buddhism."People should have a health warning" he says. "An elderly guru seducing a young woman probably isn't doing it to assist her towards enlightenment."
Reports from Canada, Austrilia and England. All over the world.
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Re: Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism; Lamas are not Buddhists.
Postby Fortigurn » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:13
I see this is going well. Carry on folks. :)
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Re: Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism; Lamas are not Buddhists.
Postby Isha » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:20
Tantrismuskritik wrote:
Buddhism wrote:Do you know so many inside stories about Tibetan “Buddhism”
There are some reports if you google:
Reports from Canada, Austrilia and England. All over the world.
Three countries make the world :doh: I thought we have close to 200 countries. What about local buddhist leaders? are they all pious to the core? how about digging local newspapers?
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Re: Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism; Lamas are not Buddhists.
Postby Tantrismuskritik » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:37
Isha, how about reading these information? These information are more worthy to read than my poor expressing.
1. The Canadian documentary film: In the Name of Enlightenment
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj4ALQej ... re=related)
A Buddhist Master (Sogyal Rinpoche) beloved by millions uses his position and authority to take advantage of young women. For over three decades, complaints are dismissed as the grumblings of the uninitiated. A Guru focused on his own pleasure turns the path to enlightenment into the road to sexual servitude.
2. The Austrilian Victim Venerable Tenpa Bejanke
(http://www.nondualitymagazine.org/nondu ... rview.html)
She is one of the women who recently reported to the Canberra Times (May 1, 2011) the unethical behaviour of a highly respected teacher named Lama Choedak, a Rinpoche, (precious one) the Spiritual Director of SLCD and the founder of Sakya International Buddhist Academy.
3. The English journalist Mary Finnigan: Lama sex abuse claims call Buddhist taboos into question
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... e-buddhist)
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Samuel says that although this arcane version of sacred sex is present in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures, it should not be confused with the modern neo-tantra movement and nor is it appropriate for recent converts to Buddhism.
"People should have a health warning" he says. "An elderly guru seducing a young woman probably isn't doing it to assist her towards enlightenment."
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Re: Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism; Lamas are not Buddhists.
Postby adikarmika » Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:55
Tantrismuskritik wrote:Isha, how about reading these information? These information are more worthy to read than my poor expressing.
1. The Canadian documentary film: In the Name of Enlightenment
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj4ALQej ... re=related)
A Buddhist Master (Sogyal Rinpoche) beloved by millions uses his position and authority to take advantage of young women. For over three decades, complaints are dismissed as the grumblings of the uninitiated. A Guru focused on his own pleasure turns the path to enlightenment into the road to sexual servitude.
2. The Austrilian Victim Venerable Tenpa Bejanke
(http://www.nondualitymagazine.org/nondu ... rview.html)
She is one of the women who recently reported to the Canberra Times (May 1, 2011) the unethical behaviour of a highly respected teacher named Lama Choedak, a Rinpoche, (precious one) the Spiritual Director of SLCD and the founder of Sakya International Buddhist Academy.
3. The English journalist Mary Finnigan: Lama sex abuse claims call Buddhist taboos into question
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... e-buddhist)
Samuel says that although this arcane version of sacred sex is present in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures, it should not be confused with the modern neo-tantra movement and nor is it appropriate for recent converts to Buddhism."People should have a health warning" he says. "An elderly guru seducing a young woman probably isn't doing it to assist her towards enlightenment."
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Thanks for your question which provides me chance to make some more complements.
I myself didn't see the connection between Tantric ritual sex and Tibetan Buddhism. Yet, ritual abuse of lamas breaks out in Taiwan yearly. Due to my Germanic language ability, I decided to google and read some books of German researchers like Trimondi, Colin Goldner etc. Nearly I read a few English reports on website, too.
I made some thoughts:
1. Why ritual abuse of lamas in my land and others? All accidental?
2. What is the truth of Tibetan Buddhism? It looks out Buddhist. But there is also opposite voice against it.
3. What is the information of the Western insiders of Tibetan Buddhism? A few of it as:
(1) June Campbell, the Scottish philosopher of religion, worked as a translator for Tibetan lamas (ex. Kalu Rinpoche, whose "secret sexual consort" she became), reveals her sexual sacrifice with her book “Traveller in Space: In Search of Female Identity in Tibetan Buddhism.” (Traveller in Space:空行母, the sex partner of lamas.) (http://www.amazon.com/Traveller-Space-I ... 0807614068)
(2) Mary Finnigan, a British journalist and Buddhist, said she has been compiling a dossier on Rinpoche for 16 years because she regrets helping him to launch his career in London. “Sogyal’s promiscuity was obvious to every one in the mid-1970s in the Buddhist community and that’s what he has been doing systematically ever since,” she said. “But he puts on a good show. He offers people a dumbed-down version of Buddhism which appeals to people who want a quick fix.” She writes column of Buddhist critiques now for newspaper (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/mary-finnigan).
(3) Victor Trimondi, a German cultural critical author, supported Dalai Lama in the 80s, organized several international congresses and published books about him. After realizing the two faces of DL, he didn't follow him any more, and writes books as “The Shadow of Dalai Lama: Sexuality, Magic and Politics in Tibetan Buddhism” (http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/SDLE/Index.htm) which reveal the hidden side of Tibetan Buddhism.
(4) Colin Goldner, a German psychiatrist, worked in India, Nepal, China since 1980. In order to write books about Tibetan Buddhism, he also visited Tibet for several times. He has a psychiatric organitation in Munich now. Some of his patients are Maha Mudra (空行母、明妃). His book: Dalai Lama - Fall eines Gottkönigs (http://www.gottkoenig.de/?q=taxonomy/term/2).
Some reports of Western newspaper show also the other side of Tibetan Buddhism which I did not know. After reading these Western researches and reports, I becam more and more clear what the true color of Tibetan Buddhism is.
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Dear Adikarmika,
there have many Buddhism fraud around Taiwan, the latest case occurred on ( from liberty time ) 2011/8/16 from Taichung " 萬佛寺", the briefing of the story is the nun barrow money from believers for restore the temple, if the believers doubt about the where the money go and ask for return, the nun said it's is felony to say so and will go to hell ( very very deep one). There have about NTD 280,000,000 liquidity from 6 different accounts.
Anyone, who use religion to gain personal favor, is not allow in modern society. For the Buddhism thought, it is even worse because life is endless and they need to pay for it with amount itself plus interests.
The connection between Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism for sexual assault... bad apples, I need to refer to "Tsongkhapa", what he wrote and one thousand years ago. It is in the book he writes
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Re: Tibetan Buddhism is not Buddhism; Lamas are not Buddhists.
Postby urodacus » Sat, 10 Sep 2011 3:36
But sex is great! Get it any way you can, folks, because eventually you won't get any more.
any religion that denies that is futile.
The prizes are a bottle of f*!@#$% SCOTCH and a box of cheap f!@#$#$ CIGARS!
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