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Re: Bernard Poolman, from Lightworker to the Beast
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: October 31, 2010 03:13AM

The work camps and The Equality Corporation are starting to sound a bit soviet, Stalin's gulag system for forcible re-education maybe?

Orwell's 'Animal Farm' should be on the reading list as well as Crowley, "all animals are equal but some are more equal than others".

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Re: Desteni
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: October 31, 2010 06:18AM

Regarding Poolman's grandiose prophesies of a billion Desteni members all beavering away in work camps for The Equality Corporation:

'Amazingly, Poolman says, over and over again, the reason he is able to make these predictions is the mere fact that 1+1=2'

One of the first casualties of an episode of dissociation/psychosis is the loss of any sense of emotional nuance and complexity that the person may once have had. The dissociated person has an over-reliance on logical thought systems and most delusions are recognised to have their own internal logic, however bizarre, to those familiar with such delusions. What is missing is the recognition that these thought systems are purely mental constructs that have no validity or contextual place in reality.
Mathematics, the conceptual logical system that 1+1=2, is itself a mentally constructed system that has real and useful application in reality but does not pretend to describe the totality of reality. It is a useful tool for thinking about and exploring many aspects of reality.

Poolman is taking mathematical concepts and positing those as the entirety of reality, thus 1+1=2, so the exponential increase of the conceptual pyramid scheme will inevitably yield a billion real live members within a set period of time.

Its a house of cards, existing in the only place it can exist-- inside Poolman's head--but reality will inevitably intrude and will huff and puff and blow his house down.

Unfortunately it may also damage anyone foolish enough to buy into Poolman's grandiose fantasy of world domination by adding one and one to make two.

[www.worldburnsclub.com]

'The best laid schemes of mice and men
Go often askew,
And leaves us nothing but grief and pain,
For promised joy!'




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2010 06:25AM by Stoic.

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Re: Bernard Poolman, from Lightworker to the Beast
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: November 01, 2010 09:22PM

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The Anticult
Desteni work camps?

Oh yes, and 'Equal Conscripted Labor'.

But before that happens there will be the most advanced computer game the world has ever seen, based on the heavenly revelation of Structural Resonance Alignment ...

Project Virtual Gaming & The Future of Education

As regards research into Donald Herman's connections with the group here's a video where Poolman briefly discusses Herman...

Jealousy

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Re: Bernard Poolman, from Lightworker to the Beast
Posted by: DesteniWhy ()
Date: November 01, 2010 10:08PM

First, thank you Stoic and Sandman, these messages and insights you both have are truly helpful. Poolman, as a salesperson, is intelligent and clever. He has an aggressive schedule for the release of the game. I don't understand why (as he states) this Equality-SRA gaming module/s-levels will be so advanced (challenging) that many will find it so difficult and will not be able to participate in the game. What's that about? What's that about equality?

What do you win in the game at the top level? What's the object of the game to affirm equality in all living things? Sounds boring to me. Probably you have to answer multiple choice questions to get a magical wand that opens up other questions to be answered. The SRA Training course fitted to a game. Wonder how much the game will cost? Probably have independent level modules you purchase too.

Is DesTeni delusional or is it just Bernard? How do the Desteni folks-members hide the fact Bernard contradicts himself in messages. It's rapidly becoming more inconsistance?

I have so many questions (above) but growth of DesTeni appears exponential (why). Are they doing something right?

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Re: Bernard Poolman, from Lightworker to the Beast
Posted by: Citizendc ()
Date: November 02, 2010 04:28AM

>> How do the Desteni folks-members hide the fact Bernard contradicts himself in messages.
I think many members look away. They dont want to see it.
Those that do see it are too afraid to say anything openly about it. Many d members are self isolated from friends and family (their previous support systems), going against desteni would mean being completely isolated if they got banned.

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Re: Desteni
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: November 02, 2010 05:53AM

'I don't understand why (as he states) this Equality-SRA gaming module/s-levels will be so advanced (challenging) that many will find it so difficult and will not be able to participate in the game. What's that about? What's that about equality?'


This is reverse psychology to hook in the members and make them determined to take up the challenge--its a direct challenge to the ego. There is also the scarcity tactic--many will not be able to participate--which fosters competition amongst the members. If they're watching out for the other members they are in competition with, they won't be taking too much notice of what Poolman is up to.

The equality stuff is a red herring, so is this wonderful game that so far only exists in Bernards imagination--easy to extol its wonders and virtues as long as they remain virtual.

I counted about 40 replies on the videos, reporting that they have obediently taken in Poolman's wisdom. That's hardly the exponential increase that the pyramid promises.

The SRA training course is gobbleygook but in trying to make some sense out of its patent nonsense I am sure that a few more Desteni-ites will join Bernard in his delusions.
I don't agree that Poolman is either intelligent or clever-he is a functional and manipulative deluded person who snares naive and too-trusting people into his nasty little con.

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Slow Movement of People Joining Desteni
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: November 02, 2010 06:13AM

There's hardly an exponential increase, even Poolman admits there is rather a Slow Movement of People Joining Desteni

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Destenitown and Jonestown, Desteni Work Camp-Farm
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: November 02, 2010 07:23AM

Most of this Desteni crap has to be just obsessive mental masturbation of the Fuhrer of Desteni.

But if they are ever able to get a large group of Desteni people in a secluded Desteni Work Camp-Farm, that could be very dangerous. Once people get trapped in that kind of situation, its very hard to get out. It becomes a closed-system.

It could be another Jonestown situation before the kool-aid, where everyone also claimed they were at Jonestown for "Equality" and were there "voluntarily". The paranoid fear and snitches start, and people can't get out.

Is there going to be a Desteni work-camp set-up?
A rural secluded Destenitown?

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Re: Bernard Poolman, from Lightworker to the Beast
Posted by: DesteniWhy ()
Date: November 02, 2010 08:28AM

I'm not an expert on cults but it doesn't seem DesTeni has any cohesion to actually form a tight group. They have internet followers and people visiting the farm and working for a spat but there isn't any official base camp. If DesTeni is a cult, which it is, then they sure don't have much if any cohesion in bringing the fold-flock together. When are they going to officially start? Or is it going to be purely internet followers investing in course material and gaming?

Someone shared this information with me on the 2nd farm purchase. They are trying to set-up a non-profit for donations that have come in. Thus far they spent $18,571. dollars in filings and legal fees to purchase the farm. They need approx. $40,000. to complete purchase. Figure they have 200 DesTeni members that's only $200. a piece. What's the hold up?

How would you tell in an internet group is growing or diminishing???? anyone. shaved heads?

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Destenitown, Desteni Farm, kibbutz
Posted by: Sandman ()
Date: November 02, 2010 10:26AM

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The Anticult
Is there going to be a Desteni work-camp set-up?
A rural secluded Destenitown?

There already is, on the Mountain View Farm in the KwaZulu-Natal Midlands... which is the Desteni Farm or Ranch.

Google kibbutz desteni.

Poolman recommends these "kibbutzes" as a solution for all the suffering in the world, beginning on the Desteni farm and any other property they purchase. Four years conscription.

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