Actually guys, I have already made several statements expressing what I believe is going on. As well as share what information I could. However I will gladly reinstate it after this particular post, to make things clear.
Stoic you said mangling the language.. Like Cresil has been doing over the course of last night? Do her/his sentences actually make any sense to you?
Stoic, can you tell me, having read what Cresil said last night, what their position on the channeling situation is- in straight terms? For I can't seem to work it out. Also why is it, after I clarified that I was not suggesting Cresil was not "seeing between the layers" as they put it, that Cresil continued to use that as my supposed position within the argument?
I clarified the statement was towards desteni's hanging around the board, which in my opinion, probably includes Cresil. If I'm wrong on that, then great, things are more straight forward and palatable that way. However...
Repeating the FBI comment Cresil, means little to me when you also made the statement that the "beings" channeled might be the ones acting. Open mindedness is fine with me but your statements seem deliberately convoluted. Members such as Cameron cope have openly stated they do not believe "the portal" is truly channeling beings. From what I gather from your various statements Cresil, you "greatly admire" the intricate "web" created by individuals you think deserve to be profiled by the FBI, you have an inclination towards what you have described as evil, consider yourself a phi-vampire and have been involved in Desteni since before March 2009, using Sunettes photograph in what you have described as "joke" pages. Furthermore you have volunteered your own name, before individuals pressed idea they hope you are anonymous:
As well as all of this you have stated openly, perhaps as a joke; that you felt certain Desteni members were not "worthy of being pawns of Satan." I take it you are not a follower of Anton LaVey considering his thoughts on "psychic vampires" but of course, that's none of my business.
Avatar, been reading the thread for a while? I wonder what struck you to join at this point. Weren't you here under a different name... Ha.
WanderingCrow, again, I have come out with what I believe is going on. They are manipulators and liars. The inner set make sure to pervade and underhandedly dominate the spaces set aside for debate against their group.
Remember the little exercise Poolman issued to his followers? To imagine themselves to be and write from the position of anti-desteni members. What better opportunity for practice would present itself than to participate with individuals on this forum.
Seems like Bernard has been reading "Prometheus Rising" in which conspicuously similar exercises are issued for overcoming what are described as mental circuits. Individuals are encouraged to write from a great deal of perspectives, including the very opposite of the individuals current political/social/religious persuasion. Of course, these exercises are to raise consciousness; not eliminate it completely, an idea which Bernard has skirted around- bizarrely. Early comments by older members of Desteni suggested in so many words the idea of members becoming what could be described as Robots. This would be particularly relevant to anyone interested in artificial intelligence and the fact that consciousness seems to be the primary element which -to date- cannot be recreated within machines. Instead relying on Conditioned Stimulus Response Sequences: In other words key word triggered mantras. Perhaps a private joke from Poolman and co, in his disdain for the followers. After all, he openly debases dedicated and influential members for contributing a slightly unique and charitable spin on the head shaving "project?"
The sexual exploitation within the group serves as bonding and as has also been discussed, serves conveniently in fear inducing as a potential revelation. A source to keep individuals schtum and possibly ashamed (manageable.) Imagine discovering the details of intimate and sacred areas of your life had been openly discussed without your consent and then were made to feel any resistance to this action was merely the result of "dishonesty" on your part. As the moderator here has discussed, the human mind is fragile.
Let me think of someone else who has come here under false pretenses- Bastian, earlier in the thread. Die unendliche Geschichte.
Referring back to Sandmans question regarding pyramid schemes. Are the Desteni members investing money outright or would they be marked as consumers receiving a product in return? I am sure there are loopholes to the illegality of such schemes, although I am in no way fully versed in this situation. It should be noted, many hierarchical affiliate marketing schemes are quite readily & legally available to participate within online. Ranging from e-books, to chocolate, weight loss products etc. Sticking to this model of affiliate marketing suggests to me, the scheme could indeed be legal. Depending on the details of how it is all being implemented.
One article I have found relating to the legal issues of pyramid marketing in South Africa, seems to mainly involve high investments- life savings for example.
The article can be seen here: [www.southafrica.info
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