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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: pS1bY8pG2l ()
Date: May 07, 2013 03:09AM

Rudi,

on Wikipedia you find following definition, I use it here because of its clearness:

"Buddhahood is defined as a state free of the obstructions to liberation as well as those to omniscience.[8] When one is freed from all mental obscurations,[9] one is said to attain a state of continuous bliss mixed with a simultaneous cognition of emptiness,[[b]10] the true nature of reality.[11]"[/b]

[en.wikipedia.org]

Other Buddhist schools may define Buddhahood in different ways.

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: May 07, 2013 04:26AM

Please stay tightly focused on topic.

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: suenam ()
Date: June 02, 2013 05:03AM

The idea of using pleasure or bliss, unified with emptiness, for example the use of sex in tantras is because of the immediate presence discovered in such a state. It has become almost a cliché in western thought that the moment of sexual climax is one where the person is not lost in daydreams but rather is fully present.

So, Nydahl might use this language, but to place it in context, this is a guy who became so lost in his own imagination that he forgot to open his parachute and nearly died as a result.
It would seem fairly obvious that he was anything but present - this is being lost in thought, not going beyond mind to discover the "true nature of reality".

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: pS1bY8pG2l ()
Date: June 17, 2013 08:04PM

"The idea of using pleasure or bliss, unified with emptiness, for example the use of sex in tantras is because of the immediate presence discovered in such a state.

Suenam, did you just read about the method to reach that state or are you experienced?

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: June 17, 2013 11:48PM

Please keep this thread on topic, which is Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way.

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: suenam ()
Date: June 18, 2013 07:32AM

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karam-mudra
"The idea of using pleasure or bliss, unified with emptiness, for example the use of sex in tantras is because of the immediate presence discovered in such a state.

Suenam, did you just read about the method to reach that state or are you experienced?

Both. The point here is that the teachings are designed to go "beyond mind". So for any student of Nydahl, one has to decide whether the opinions he voices are based on conceptual and discursive thought, or whether they are beyond concepts.

In other words, do such thoughts have a "conditioning" effect or not? They certainly seem to have a conditioning effect on those who take him seriously. Whether he takes himself seriously or not is a matter of conjecture, but the fact that he seems to have repeated the same ideas, on stage, during "dharma" lectures, suggests that he is "caught up" in them - just as he got caught up in his own imaginings during the famous parachute accident.

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: christoph31 ()
Date: June 20, 2013 05:33AM

Yes, I heard him talk about his accident... it was quite strange. I do not know the genuine Guroyoga stuff, but the modified guided Meditations they do in the centers are not supposed to cultivate 'awareness' in any way. They even admit, mindfullness practices like Zen, Vipassana or Dzogchen are to boring :D

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: August 02, 2013 07:56PM

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Re: Ole Nydahl and Diamond Way Buddhism
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: June 06, 2014 09:36PM

Friends, have a look around.

Rust never sleeps, so they say.

And neither do cults.

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Date: June 09, 2014 08:55PM

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