RandomStu Stuart Resnick, is at it again.

Right after a few thoughtful people were intelligently discussing what happened at the Byron Katie School for Decompensation...
RandomStu arrives, and seems to have succeeded in his objective, to disrupt the conversation to such a degree, as to destroy it. [guruphiliac.lefora.com]

You will notice RandomStu's technique is the same, to deflect, distract, bully, and disrupt the conversation to stop people from carefully analyzing the specific techniques being used on them.

Why?
Why does Stuart Resnick RandomStu run interference and create a smokescreen for Byron Katie?
He tried to do the exact same thing in this thread previously.

He does not disclose his connections, of course, quite the contrary, in this thread he said he had no connection to Byron Katie, which was extremely false.

RandomStu's own guru is Seung Sahn, the deceased Leader of the Kwan Um School of Zen.
Stephen Mitchell, Byron Katie's husband, was deeply involved with Seung Sahn, and was even groomed to take over his organization.
For all anyone knows, he may have purchased Kwan Um School of Zen in some type of partnership deal with all the new millions. Who knows who even REALLY owns that group now, not just the storefront? The Kwan Um School of Zen is a huge organization, and was centrally controlled by the iron fist of Seung Sahn until his death in 2004.
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Seung Sahn himself, was involved in the sexual abuse of his female students. His excuse was it was for their own spiritual good, and to make them loyal to him so they would not cheat him out of his money...your typical sex abuser guru.
Seung Sahn was involved in many abuses, and should be disgraced, yet his current followers revere his memory and methods, as does Stu Resnick.
Meanwhile, Seung Sahn was clearly a ruthless leader who would do anything to further his own ambitions. He designed all sorts of extreme abusive techniques like...
"isolation for up to 90 days 17 hours a day while only reading the works of Seung Sahn, while NOT BEING PERMITTED to keep a diary"
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By the way, RandomStu does not have a problem with his Zen guru Seung Sahn having sex with his students. His basic argument is that Seung Sahn didn't get caught or criminally convicted for raping underage girls, so its fine. ...beware
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Also, RandomStu was deeply involved follower of Muktananda in his ashrams.
And the Muk/GM Syda gang was also involved in very serious sexual abuses, financial abuses, even possible group-drugging abuses...and Muktananda had close links with Werner Erhard, and they learned/used all of Werner Erhard methods as well on their own followers. [forum.culteducation.com]


So the point is clear.
RandomStu is either totally unaware and ignorant of the group persuasion techniques being used by these various abusive guru's which he has been deeply involved with 24/7 for decades...
...or he is totally aware of them, uses them himself, and sees it as his mission to DISTRACT and deflect from them being explained, as that destroys most of their power.
He may be self-appointed, or maybe Stephen Mitchell gives him a cookie and Brownie Points.
RandomStu appears quite active on 'trips' to Amsterdam, where BKI does a lot of business.

[Report from Holland Casino, Amsterdam by Stuart Resnick] [gocee.com]

The Kwan Um School of Zen supports RandomStu's behavior, even though he breaks most of their Precepts. What's up with that?
Kwan Um even offers drug counselling...while some of their own Zen teachers are drug users.
To borrow a word from David Letterman, these Zen Houses are crawling with weasels.

The Kwan Um School of Zen methods, are a ruthless type of warrior attack "Zen" from Seung Sahn. Its based on submission to authority.
They verbally attack the new student, from every direction, even in a "random" fashion, to destablize their thinking processes and confuse them. Then once the student is completely confused and broken-down, they move them into submission.
Eventually, they do things like putting people into isolation for 90 days 17 hours a day while only reading the works of Seung Sahn, with no journal allowed.
That is very very serious old school brainwashing, very damaging. That would create permanent changes in the person's belief system, which is obviously its intent by Seung Sahn, to try and create total submission and lifelong devotion to him.

So people need to be careful out there.
There are many aggressive and dishonest tricksters, and to them lying is something they do consciously, and deliberately as a technique. To them, aggressive lying is completely fair-game, all-is-fair in the art of warrior Zen.
Just because they may hide behind some faux "Zen beard", doesn't mean they aren't a ruthless exploiter or even a predator.

Frankly, they couldn't care less if people get hurt, or get their lives wrecked by their methods.
That's your problem...asshole, in the words of Werner Erhard.
Its the law of the jungle, and if you are too inexperienced to know what's going on, then you deserve to get hammered, according to how they think.
That is why they blame the victim.
Every predator blames the victim, and even get their stooges to run interference for them, as the smart, ruthless predators run amok, hitting the easiest targets they can find.

John Milton (1642):
"They who have put out the people’s eyes, reproach them of their blindness."

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Seung Sahn wrote:

"There is a famous sutra called the Hua-yen sutra, which tells the story of a
prostitute. Every day she sold her body many times. Every day different men came and
had sex with this woman. But any time a man would have sex with her, he would become enlightened."

The difference between that prostitute and Seung Sahn is - she didn't take the precepts before she started her activity.
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"Some years later, Seung Sahn too was caught up in sexual scandals, having, over a period of years, simultaneous affairs with a number of his students directing his satellite Centers spread across the country. Seung Sahn's explanation was that the women needed his power to keep the Centers running.(sic!) This affair was very divisive to his followers causing many people to leave."

Wikipedia:

"The first revelations of sexual relationships between Seung Sahn and students came about in 1988. According to former director of Cambridge Zen Center Sonia Alexander, Seung Sahn had carried out long-term sexual relationships with a number of his female followers. One former student claims that when confronted with the issue, Seung Sahn stated that he engaged in such behavior to find people he could trust and that he was beyond lust. These relationships caused Alexander to end her involvement with the Kwan Um School, believing in retrospect that she had been used over the years only to help build more Zen Centers for the lineage."

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RandomStu Stuart Resnick, is at it again.

Right after a few thoughtful people were intelligently discussing what happened at the Byron Katie School for Decompensation...
RandomStu arrives, and seems to have succeeded in his objective, to disrupt the conversation to such a degree, as to destroy it. [guruphiliac.lefora.com]

Yes, and fortunately they have gotten wind of it at the Guruphiliac forum.

News travels fast on the internet!

Speaking of the internet, Stuart can be found commenting all over it. Just the other day I was reading a blog entry on Eckhart Tolle at the Guruphiliac blog and was pleased to find that more than one person in the comments section was taking the ubiquitious Stuart to task. Here is one of those comments:

Semblance,

It's useless to try to argue with Stuart. He'll always prevail because that's his motto. He may not even realize that his mind always twists to ignore the arguments that knock down his own.

Stuart, when you realize this and let it go, your keen mind will truly shine. Until then, it's always a "pain in the ..." to try to argue with you. I know it, I tried it a few times, only to realize that your argumentation wasn't honest. It's flawed at the base - your ego. Let it go, man!

Love, François

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The Anticult
RandomStu Stuart Resnick, is at it again.

Right after a few thoughtful people were intelligently discussing what happened at the Byron Katie School for Decompensation...
RandomStu arrives, and seems to have succeeded in his objective, to disrupt the conversation to such a degree, as to destroy it. [guruphiliac.lefora.com]

Yes, and fortunately they have gotten wind of it at the Guruphiliac forum.

News travels fast on the internet!

Speaking of the internet, Stuart can be found commenting all over it. Just the other day I was reading a blog entry on Eckhart Tolle at the Guruphiliac blog and was pleased to find that more than one person in the comments section was taking the ubiquitious Stuart to task. Here is one of those comments:

Semblance,

It's useless to try to argue with Stuart. He'll always prevail because that's his motto. He may not even realize that his mind always twists to ignore the arguments that knock down his own.

Stuart, when you realize this and let it go, your keen mind will truly shine. Until then, it's always a "pain in the ..." to try to argue with you. I know it, I tried it a few times, only to realize that your argumentation wasn't honest. It's flawed at the base - your ego. Let it go, man!

Love, François

I'm glad to see some thinking people on that blog. Sadly, it became quite apparent to me, in the one reading, that Jody is a Stuart-apologist, at best, and a dishonest shyster at worst. You may be able to 'intuit' where I personally stand, given those choices.

qd

UH HUH!

Here's a comment in the LA times from a Stuart Resnick on drugs.

He deflects from the obvious fact that marijuana is obviously psychologically addictive and has gotten very powerful due to the engineering of the plant. Marijuana is now quite a powerful drug, and leads to memory problems, and reduced functioning, health problems, and it can lead to compulsive daily drug use and drug-seeking. [www.nida.nih.gov]

He ignores the facts about the harder drugs, or the severe dangers in using psychedelics.

Notice the aggressive political advocacy stance of the use of drugs as well.

This is a "Zen" teacher at the Kwan Um School of Zen?


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10. > Heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine and > marijuana are illegal because they are > dangerous, addictive, destructive drugs > that ruin lives. Everyone -- or at least anyone under 50 -- knows that mariuana is NOT addicative, or that it's NOT more dangerous and destructive than alcohol. > there is the issue of morality We cannot ignore the huge threat to our society that comes from people like you, focused on forcing your personal ideas of morality on everyone else. Stuart [stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com]

Submitted by: Stuart Resnick
2:59 PM PDT, April 26, 2008

Its looks like Seung Sahn and Muktananda were just trying to "diss" eachother and give the other guy a "kick" in an infantile game of one-upmanship. (typical of gurus, who are the supreme narcissists)
Its pretty obvious that Seung Sahn was afraid that Muk would make him look like an ignorant, uneducated peasant, so Seung Sahn just says a bunch of nonsense to try and deflect.

Seung Sahn refuses a "gift" of a candy from Muk due to alleged diabetes, Muk tells him to walk to cure the diabetes, (implying that Seung Sahn is too fat), then SS responds like a 3 yr old...diabetes is good!
blah blah.
It just goes on and on.

[By the way, never accept a "candy" or "tea" or anything like that from a Guru like this. Ever.
It could be laced with a mild psychedelic...not a bad idea for a guru, hand out candies to people before you speak, which are laced with a psychedelic drug. That would have worked great in the 1970's, better than hash-brownies, and then people think you are a magical Guru with magical powers].

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Soen-sa—I am not a philosopher. I am not a scientist. I am not a Buddhist.
Muktananda—Then what is your philosophy, and what is the use of that philosophy?
Soen-sa—I have no philosophy.
Muktananda—Then what is your purpose?
Soen-sa—You already understand.
Muktananda—I must go now.
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He got that right. He is not a philospher, is totally ignorant of science, and is not a Buddhist either.
Its very apparent that Seung Sahn was literally a Zen flim-flam man, who found it was easy as hell to dupe doped-out dropped-out westerners, with a few trick phrases.
He went and set up a zillion Zen centers, handed out "robes" to anyone who could pay dues, got women to manage his "Zen" centers as he did not trust other men and thought they would steal his students/money. Then had sexual relationships with his female center leaders, to make them more loyal to him out of "love", all the time, lying his ass off while he was houndogging around the country.

Also notice, that when trapped, all Seung Sahn can say is..."I hit you with my Zen stick!"
That's all he's got. Either you submit to his nonsense, or he hits you with a Zen stick.
Well, perhaps if Seung Sahn had kept his "Zen stick" in his pants, then he would not have had those sex scandals with his students?

Why are some people attracted to this type of fraudulent "Zen"?
Perhaps because it allows them to do, and say, anything they want, without regard for the facts or even basic honesty?
For example Stephen Mitchell in this video, says his Zen Guru (who he doesn't mention by name due to the sex scandals) taught him to disregard the texts he was "translating"! There are some appropriate comments below from the youtube.
The Tao of Translation - Stephen Mitchell [www.youtube.com]

So people who enjoy making stuff up, bluffing, tricking, manipulating, fabricating, those folks are going to be attracted to Seung Sahn and the Kwan Um School of Zen method. For them, its a virtue to try to dupe people and dominate them. Its the poker game of life.
Stuart Resnick has the support of Empty Gate Zen Center, so that place should be avoided at all costs.

In a sense, the Seung Sahn method, and the Byron Katie method are similar, in that their main technique is creating confusion in the students, and then dominating them. All the while denying it, and playing mind-games with them. Some research into the background of Seung Sahn would be very enlightening...that is certain.

Stephen Mitchell seems to have learnt the worst of both worlds.
In his video, you can see him play-acting, pretending he is trying to "remember" how old he was when he met his mysterious Zen teacher, the unmentionable Seung Sahn. Just transparent bluffing, he's told the "Story" many times, and he's just trying to copy his current master of public speaking, the wife Byron Katie.
Stephen Mitchell is a very poor public speaker, with a wispy monotone voice, in the videos of him reading his so-called "translations". Anyone who makes it past 60 seconds and stays conscious, gets a Muktananda candy.
On a scale of 1-100%, Byron Katie advanced public speaking skills, are in the 95% percentile.
Stephen Mitchell? 10% maybe even lower, down to 5%. Its unwatchable.
(similar to his clumsy use of various persuasion language patterns in his PR stuff)

But one wonders what kind of literary skeletons might be in the closet of Stephen Mitchell?
(have these books been compared yet?)
Grace Unfolding: Psychotherapy in the Spirit of Tao-te ching by Greg Johanson, Ronald S. Kurtz
A Thousand Names for Joy: Living in Harmony with the Way Things Are (Tao) Byron Katie - Stephen Mitchell
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[Warning about Stephen Mitchell's methods]
manipulative tactics from Stephen Mitchell in email
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MARY POPPINS and sock-puppets
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The Tao of Translation - Stephen Mitchell [www.youtube.com]
- So basically, rather than translating it, he just made it up.
- He didnt translate it. He doesnt even know the language it is written in. He 'interpreted it'. IE, he made it up because it 'sounded good' to him. He makes his assertations, such as 'Oh, such a wise document couldnt possibly have discriminatory language against women' or such, from a modern, western perspective and then incorporates it into his 'interpretation'- regardless of what the origional says. He is assuming beforehand that it must confirm to his worldview.
- i cannot imagine how his "interpretive translation" done without any knowledge of the chinese language is worth reading over other translations.
- hes not very smart. the stupid often see the regular as smart.
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QUOTE: (Soen-sa is Seung Sahn)
Soen-sa—I am not a philosopher. I am not a scientist. I am not a Buddhist.
Muktananda—Then what is your philosophy, and what is the use of that philosophy?
Soen-sa—I have no philosophy.
Muktananda—Then what is your purpose?
Soen-sa—You already understand.
Muktananda—I must go now.
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He got that right. He is not a philospher, is totally ignorant of science, and is not a Buddhist either.
Its very apparent that Seung Sahn was literally a Zen flim-flam man, who found it was easy as hell to dupe doped-out dropped-out westerners, with a few trick phrases.
He went and set up a zillion Zen centers, handed out "robes" to anyone who could pay dues, got women to manage his "Zen" centers as he did not trust other men and thought they would steal his students/money. Then had sexual relationships with his female center leaders, to make them more loyal to him out of "love", all the time, lying his ass off while he was houndogging around the country.

Also notice, that when trapped, all Seung Sahn can say is..."I hit you with my Zen stick!"
That's all he's got. Either you submit to his nonsense, or he hits you with a Zen stick.
Well, perhaps if Seung Sahn had kept his "Zen stick" in his pants, then he would not have had those sex scandals with his students?

Oh my god, that was hysterical, thanks I needed that!

and of course, RandomStu Stuart Resnick has a blog post on poker and "spirituality", with a deliberately oversimplified poker analogy.

Poker Tactics for Spiritual Life
[stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com].
And of course, the requisite position from RandomStu...your Guru is suspicious and has a dark shadow, but my friends anti-guru is wonderful, so let me distract your mental focus from asking tough questions.

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RandomStu, Stuart Resnick, Zen. Chess. Poker
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Seung Sahn, RandomStu, poker bluff tactics
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No one plays poker like that, unless you are a chump, and want to get cleaned out. There are countless other levels beyond that, which you read in the moment. You might act strong when weak, and deliberately get caught in a bluff, and then time do it again, but reverse it as a trick.
You might act weak when weak, and the weak when strong.
You bluff with a weak hand several times and lose, and then bluff with a strong hand ONCE when it counts.
You might even bluff that you are a naive idiot savant, and have never played poker before, and "never read a book", and then clean people out. Sound like anyone you know? Byron Katie is an expert in that game plan.


And poker and 'spiritual life' are the OPPOSITE, if you have even a tiny-shred of ethics or common decency in your bones.
Poker is about gambling with REAL money, and its about defeating your opponents with bluffs, tricks, misdirection, complex strategy, and by any means available, so you can WALK AWAY with THEIR MONEY, tax-free to boot. Poker is an utterly ruthless game, where the WINNER TAKES ALL THE MONEY.

But for some people, that is analogous to "spirituality"? WTF?
Its analogous to being a BANDIT.
There are some terribly dishonest, and almost unbelievably unethical people who go into the "spiritual" racket, as an easy way to make money. It this area, the most ambitious and greedy, literally take-over.

What about the poker-skills being used, by those using the deliberately oversimplified poker analogies?
What about their bluff-tactics and misdirection?
RandomStu has shown too many of his cards, in his poker-bluffs to distract from those who are analyzing Byron Katie. He's bluffed himself right out of the match, there is nothing left. Its game over.

The reality is that anyone connected with the Kwan Um School of Zen method by Seung Sahn, every word they say has to be checked against the facts. Their "word" is useless, there is no honor or integrity being displayed. Their "word" is literally like a poker-hand to them, simply a game that is being played to defeat the opponent, a try to win the cash jackpot.
That is not Zen, Zen is supposed to be about honesty, authenticity, and simplicity.
Its not about trying to screw your opponent, and walk away with their money.

Same goes for the Byron Katie group, and Stephen Mitchell, who has learned from boths sides of the table.

Its nauseating, frankly, to have to look into these types of behaviors, and the people who carry them out. Its amazing what some people can get away with, with their schooled misdirection and bluff tactics.
But as they say, birds of a feather flock together, and in this case, that is certainly accurate.
Game over, and table closed.