The Supreme Master Ching Hai's masterplan to use organic Veganism as a way into the mainstream, is having some impact.
There are even Vegans who say to "ignore" the Ching Hai propaganda at the Loving Hut, and just buy the food to support Veganism. (some of those might be Ching Hai followers, while others are just not aware of how it works).

That is wrong on so many levels. First off, the Ching Hai media brainwashing is targeted at her vulnerable core audience.
Ching Hai has also created a marketing system to go mainstream. For example, her slogan,

--- Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! ---

that is absolutely brilliant Ching Hai mass media marketing. Because, in this day and age, who is against Going Green and saving the planet? Who is against eating more Veggies?
So this gives Ching Hai a perfect cover to try to go more mainstream. Also, her followers who work in an office or Salon. They can approach anyone with Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! and that is an open door to Ching Hai. They just hand them a brochure or DVD on Ching Hai.
That is about 100x more effective than most sects.

So in fact, Ching Hai has usurped part of the Green movement, to use as a cover, and its brilliant. (meanwhile Ching Hai does the opposite, like trashing the environment while building illegal islands, etc).

But that is only scratching the surface.
Ching Hai is using VERY extreme techniques on people, like using the most extreme, cruel, vicious slaughter-house videos on people when they don't expect it. That is extremely powerful stuff.
So they approach you, with Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! and then very soon after that, you get blindsided with extreme slaughterhouse videos. Those can literally trigger PTSD in many people, and Ching Hai is using it consciously to do that. She wants to trigger PTSD and traumatize people when they are not expecting it.

Now should adults watch slaughterhouse videos? Of course, most of us have seen them in various documentaries. But should these extreme slaughterhouse videos be used to traumatize people as part of a cultic indoctrination system by Ching Hai? Absolutely not.
They are using it to break people's minds down, so their beliefs can be changed. Ching Hai knows its about actively changing and reprogramming people's BELIEFS.


There are groups who train people to kill themselves, and kill others, who use the same basic technique. They attract people to the group in one way, and then surprise flood them with intense media about their "enemies" and show them videos of atrocities done by those enemies, over and over. They get them to watch it everyday, and that can be incredibly powerful, and completely shift how a person views reality. They can then train that person to sacrifice their life for the "cause" and kill their enemies. They use a system to do that, step by step. And guess who taught them those techniques? Experts who have studied those techniques for decades, and use them to turn humans into weapons.


Then now you have Ching Hai, who is literally using many of the same techniques, on very vulnerable people, who don't know Ching Hai is a fraud. They get lured in by promises of saving the world, going Green, and then get blindsided with traumatic horrific slaughter-house videos, as part of the planned Ching Hai indoctrination system.
Using these techniques, they can take a regular person, who is vulnerable, and in a short period of time have them completely devote their life to Ching Hai. Its used as a lever, a trigger, to break down their minds, their beliefs. There are many signs that Ching Hai knows enough to get those people to not just dedicate their entire life to her as she forces them to do in her Ching Hai pledge, but to willingly risk their life for her, and what she tells them to do.
She then can lock them in for years, with the Ching Hai Points system, and other techniques.

So the entire Ching Hai system is actually very dangerous. Its not about eating Tofu, that is the front. Every sect needs a front, a public image.
Ching Hai has several, save the planet, attain enlightenment, etc.
But what is really going on is something totally different.

The most insidious of her techniques, is Ching Hai has carefully planned out using these extreme videos to blindside and traumatize her own sensitive followers, to begin to break down their beliefs, and their minds. And she has instructed them to watch these videos, all day everyday, mixed in with other Ching Hai material on her media channels. That is even worse. So vulnerable people in the Ching Hai group, can easily be turned into a fanatic for the cause, using the media and internet. So basic reason or logic is not going to get them out of the Ching Hai group.

Ching Hai appears on the surface as some flakey crackpot. But she is not.
She has carefully designed one of the most intense and clever multimedia persuasion systems out there today.
And she can hide behind organic Veganism. And some of the Vegans choose to support her, as they think it will help veganism, by going out and making active CONVERTS to veganism, using the Ching Hai system of indoctrination.

But its really not about veganism, if not veganism, Ching Hai would have picked something else. Like she picks Global Warming, or various other mechanisms to use on people.

In business, this is called GREENWASHING. [en.wikipedia.org]
Ching Hai has combined Greenwashing, with actual media Brainwashing.
Using the known Ching Hai techniques, its no wonder she can get her followers to do almost anything.
On top of this, she is preaching 2012 end of the world, using fear, and anything else she can think of.

Ching Hai is a very disturbing and dangerous sect, for those who get lured into it. They target vulnerable people, and exploit fear, terror, trauma, vanity, comedy, and every other technique in the book.

Ching Hai appears to use no original techniques, but they are all copied from other sects she's studied.
Its up to those in the vegan movement, to educate themselves about these techniques, and not be used as props and a fig-leaf for Ching Hai to run amok over people, for her own reasons.
Ching Hai is a group to watch carefully during the 2012 delusion build-up.

Interesting that she calls her method of meditation the Quan Yin method. Quan Yin is the goddess of compassion, a mother figure in the pantheon of SE Asian gods, and Ching Hai aligns herself with just such a mother figure, pouring out the waters of compassion for the vulnerable people that she targets.

As the compassionate mother figure she can easily tap into the emotional neediness of the followers, giving guidance and advice on diet, fashion, behaviour, how to conduct oneself in work and life.

By positioning herself this way she automatically infantilises the followers, for if she has taken the mother position then they have no option but to be children and respond as children--even when they are autonomous adults in every other respect.

I found quite creepy the interaction between Ching Hai on a TV screen and a roomful of her devotees for just this reason. The devotees responded to her banal homilies and jokes like a class of five-year olds in awe of the teacher--and on several occasions when they did not respond obediently and promptly enough to what she said, she chided and chivvied them into the response she wanted from them--because Mother/Master knows best.

And all children know to keep on the good side of the all-powerful Mother.

Because mothers have much more input into childcare and much more hands-on emotional interaction with children than any other parental figure, unresolved mother issues are probably the most common, sensitive and deeply tangled issues that present in persons seeking therapy for emotional problems.



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The Anticult
Ching Hai has also created a marketing system to go mainstream. For example, her slogan,

--- Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! ---

that is absolutely brilliant Ching Hai mass media marketing. Because, in this day and age, who is against Going Green and saving the planet? Who is against eating more Veggies?
So this gives Ching Hai a perfect cover to try to go more mainstream. Also, her followers who work in an office or Salon. They can approach anyone with Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! and that is an open door to Ching Hai. They just hand them a brochure or DVD on Ching Hai.
That is about 100x more effective than most sects.

So in fact, Ching Hai has usurped part of the Green movement, to use as a cover, and its brilliant. (meanwhile Ching Hai does the opposite, like trashing the environment while building illegal islands, etc).
(...)
And she can hide behind organic Veganism. And some of the Vegans choose to support her, as they think it will help veganism, by going out and making active CONVERTS to veganism, using the Ching Hai system of indoctrination.

Well said. When talking to my friend (disciple of Ching Hai), even when I succeded to point some undeniable incoherences between Ching Hai's claims and Ching Hai's real actions, my friend never show me any disillusionment, she just confidently take refuge behind the fact what Ching Hai does for the planet have to be done, and whatever Ching Hai does wrong, we can't deny that she's helpfull, and anyone who care about the planet must support her.

It seems that for some disciples, the Go Green committment is the last (but the strongest) psychological protection for them to not fall under other's criticizes, and to keep believing that they are doing good, and they should keep doing it in the same way. This is the best shield any cult leader could dream about : "At least if it can save the world, isn't that the most important?". For followers, the survival of the planet can't be dissociated from Ching Hai. Like if she was the key of all possible ecological action. It's flagrant when you read followers's comment about the article Supreme Mystery :

(no need to select representative comments, they all argue in the same way, so here are excerpts from the 5 first comments)

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Sophie Lapaire
I can’t stop wondering what this Supreme Master must have done to you or your magazine to deserve such a scathing treatment? One would think that the simple fact of having inspired hundreds of people to open vegan restaurants around the world deserves a kudos or at least some respect. With +50 billion farm animals still being slaughtered every year around the world, ANYONE that is helping people to make the transition is a hero in my book. Let alone encouraging the opening of 160 restaurants, especially in this sucking economy! Shouldn’t we help each others? Aren’t we all in the same boat? Wouldn’t it be wiser to instead use your investigative reporters to cook some scathing article on Foster Farms, Tyson Food or Monsanto? Now, that would be a great use of their time and frankly mine too!
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Let’s be honest here, if it wasn’t for these fringe spiritual groups, we wouldn’t have had any vegetarian restaurants for the past 20 years. So why don’t you cut them some slack and focus on what matters.

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Sheila Coodin
I was shocked and so saddened by the malicious attack on Supreme Master Ching Hai. The goodness she has contributed to our world is immeasurable. Not only has she given spiritual guidance and upliftment to millions, she has also been the guiding light of the hope and efforts to save our world from the effects of global warming through adoption of the vegan diet. That you would choose to attack her in a low class erroneous piece of so-called journalism is very sad indeed. If you have done equivalent or more to what she has done, maybe then you can be in a position to criticize her. She does not take donations, and yet has single-handedly contributed millions to help those in need, including our beautiful animal friends. Through her benevolent vision and guidance, more than 170 Loving Hut restaurants have been opened , with more each day. Through the television channel which she inspired, (www.SupremeMasterTV.com) millions are finding out the true facts about the cause of global warming. If the world is saved, I have no doubt it will be due to Supreme Master Ching Hai’s tireless and loving efforts.

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Pamela Millar
After personally spending twenty years meditating under the tutelage of Supreme Master Ching Hai – and working closely with her at the United Nations and in several disaster relief projects – I would challenge you to find a person more sincerely devoted to the public good. She is by far the most passionate advocate in the world of a global shift to a vegan diet. If you don’t believe it, then watch just one hour of Supreme Master Television (http://suprememastertv.com). Her wisdom is simple –
(...)
She has spent her entire life devoted to the upliftment of society, usually at great personal sacrifice. If you were to personally witness the nobility of those she has inspired as they rush to serve in disaster relief projects – you would feel ashamed at allowing your media platform to be used for such a negative portrayal.

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Valentina Gillmore
We live in such a harsh, unkind world! Millions of innocent animals are being slaughtered for food as we speak. The enormous livestock industry destroys our planet day by day stealing the future from our children. We are facing global warming, world hunger, fatal disasters, etc. We all know that only the Vegan way will save our planet and give hope to our children to live. Our very lives are at stake! And the majority of our population is still fighting it very hard, defending their meat-eating habit. So, what was the purpose of “exposing” a humble, loving, kind Master whose only wish is to save you, yes, you are included in Her wish!

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Miyoko Schinner (she pretends not to be a follower...)
Over the past few years, I have met several people who practice this faith, but as I have had limited knowledge of the organization and its leader, was intrigued when I saw the article. All I could think after reading it, however, was, “What was the point?” Why would you publish something so scathing about an organization that has succeeded so well in promoting veganism? So what if the writer thinks it’s a cult (which I don’t think it is) – at least they’re doing something positive for the world. I know a lot of elitist vegans who can’t be bothered to “spread the word” to others who are unlike them, who instead only regurgitate the same message amongst each other, or others who are all too preachy and condescending, and are therefore ineffectual in getting anyone to listen. (In fact, sometimes when I’m around certain vegans, I wonder if veganism itself isn’t a cult…) But here’s a faith that has in a short time managed to convince millions of people to become vegan, probably because they do it in a very loving, non-judgmental way. Why would that not be a cause for celebration?

Those are interesting comments, clearly by some of Ching Hai's western followers, probably those involved with the restaurants, as that is their focus.

You can see that they go to the SLAUGHTERHOUSE very quickly.
This is because through Ching Hai, they have repeatedly watched the most cruel, terrible slaughterhouse videos, over and over again. This will traumatize people, and as part of a brainwashing system, will literally make that person almost impervious to any other input. If a person watched the worst slaughterhouse videos daily, mixed in with Ching Hai propaganda of all sorts, and pictures in their mind constantly millions of innocent animals getting slaughtered, then that is going to dominate their life.

Ching Hai deliberately blindsides people with the slaughterhouse trauma videos on purpose. On YELP [www.yelp.com] there are many comments from vegans, who were traumatized by the slaughterhouse videos that came up randomly on the TV while they were eating at Loving Hut. Some of them had to go and vomit in the Loving Hut washroom, and not eat their meal. Some of them were nauseous for days after.
THIS IS DELIBERATE from Ms Ching Hai, expert in emotional brainwashing.
She is doing this on purpose. Its a classic and powerful technique, to deeply influence people, and change their beliefs quickly, and permanently.

The Global Warming stuff, is less personal and emotional, and is just used by Ching Hai as a larger framework, that the world is ending next year, blah blah.
But those terrible videos of animals getting abused, and then killed, that is Ching Hai's emotional bread and butter.

Again, of course adults should be aware of what goes on in this world, and see those kinds of videos, at the right time and place.
But Ching Hai shows them at the wrong time and place, for MAXIMUM IMPACT on people.
If you take a sensitive animal lover, and blindside them, and show them these horrible videos over and over, as part of a brainwashing system, you can pretty much take over their life very quickly.
And then simple arguments will have no impact, as their emotional core beliefs have been shifted.
So to "save the planet" they might have to lie, deceive, manipulate...but in their mind, that is what it takes.

And you can bet, Ching Hai is directing her people to do the same to their children. The effects on children would be even worse.

Of course, Ching Hai and her main supporters would think this is all terrific, as it gets them new converts, and because it works.
But Ching Hai is not saving the planet, but her followers lose the ability to think logically.

For example, would an Environmentalist instruct her followers to leave their TV's on 24/7? [forum.culteducation.com] Of course not, it anti-environment, and just brainwashing.

Would an environmentalist destroy the local environment like Ms Ching Hai, using a false name? No.
Or ship food around the world in boxes to waste even more energy? No.

So all of this is simply a TOOL for Ching Hai. If not this, she would have used something else. But the Greenwashing and brainwashing by Ching Hai is very cleverly put together.

The Loving Hut, along with "Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet!" along with traumatizing animal lovers with horrendous slaughterhouse videos as part of a brainwashing system, this gives Ching Hai enormous influence.

Chances are that senior Ching Hai followers in the USA will try to get her to tone down her blatant propaganda, and turn down the "crazy" a bit in the west, as that turns people off. If so, then it gets even worse.
But even with all the Ching Hai crazy antics, people are going to get lured in, to "save the planet".

Thank goodness that VegNews [forum.culteducation.com] saw through the Ching Hai scam, and did some research.
Ching Hai is just using Greenwashing to conceal her brainwashing, which is all about Ching Hai. Hopefully more people are going to be able to see this.



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At the risk of drumming up more followers for Ching Hai, to observe her technique in this area, one can search Google for:

"ching hai" slaughter


Now of course, who supports the inhumane slaughter of animals?
Ching Hai has brilliantly picked issues and tools, that basically no one can oppose, and that are extremely emotional.
When you combine that with everything else she is doing, its a potent package for her emotional and sensitive target demographic.

She then also says the meat-mafia are after her for this, so she has to stay in hiding, which is another level of conspiracy on top of all of that.

Hopefully her followers will see that they can work in society for issues they believe in, while not supporting someone like Ching Hai, who is really about Ching Hai, and using people for her own ends.

There are many other smart people and writers, who are working hard for positive change, using science, and using proper media communication.

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Stoic
Interesting that she calls her method of meditation the Quan Yin method. Quan Yin is the goddess of compassion, a mother figure in the pantheon of SE Asian gods, and Ching Hai aligns herself with just such a mother figure, pouring out the waters of compassion for the vulnerable people that she targets.

Is there a link between the goddess Quanyin and the San Mat meditation method?

Because if not, so it's quite a smart play on words from Ching Hai, which can produce a confusion. Because litterally, Quan means "perceive" and Yin means "sound" (of course if we simplify a lot, cos it's a transcription of the sanscrit, have a look on wikipedia for the various translations). As the goddess of compassion, she's the one who can hear the sound (i.e. "the cries of sentient beings who need his help" [en.wikipedia.org]). But it's not a question of perceiving internal sounds like in the light and sound method of San Mat.

So, by changing the name of San Mat light and sound meditation by her own self-label "QuanYin method", she's making a 2in1 benefit : an association of ideas suggesting that Ching Hai is as compassionate and virtuous as Quanyin (of whom she could be a reincarnation, just in case Jesus was not enough), and in the same time her method is linked to the well known goddess Quanyin, like if it could be the method of the goddess herself, which is an appreciable benefit of reliability. In Taiwan, Quanyin is one of the gods that people prey the most when they need help. Now with internet, they know who to call when need help...



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The path to all SMTV's documentaries about breatharianism : [suprememastertv.com] > shows > between masters & disciples > Breatharianism - Meet individuals who live without food [suprememastertv.com]

Before I didn't realize it was so hudge, and I understand now why you Anticult are insisting on it. Actually it is a well-running productive TV series, with a standard introduction, and a spoken comment in various languages, depending on the country of the breatharian showed in the episode.

There are already 26 episodes since Nov. 2008 untill now, which represents a total of 18 hours... not bad.
Part 1 - 11 : [suprememastertv.com]
Part 12 - 26 : [suprememastertv.com]

1. Believing in the Divine Power & Breatharianism (30min)
2. Louise Lateau: A 19th Century Waterian (17min)
3. Phan Tân Lôc: A Waterian Farmer (32 min)
4. Master Fu Hui: A Waterian Nun (31min)
5. Jericho Sunfire:A Breatharian Personal Fitness Guru (70min)
6. Hira Ratan Manek:Sun Gazing for Peace and Good Health (33min)
7. Akahi: A Breatharian from Ecuador (56min)
8. Master Liao Fong-Sheng:A Qigong Breatharian (39min)
9. Camila Castillos:A Breatharian Artist and Dancer (36min)
10. Jericho Sunfire: Transitioning to Breatharianism (51min)
11. Elitom Ben Yisrael: Living a Holistic, Breatharian Lifestyle (42min)
12. Henri Monfort: A Breatharian Shaman (75min)
13. Joachim Werdin:Experiencing a Breatharian Lifestyle (62min)
14. Mony Vital: A Lifestyle of True Freedom (27min)
15. Dr. Christopher Schneider:A Breatharian Scientist (62min)
16. Elitom Ben Yisrael:Challenges in Transitioning to Breatharianism (40min)
17. Victor Truviano: A Breatharian from Argentina (54min)
18. Isabelle Hercelin: Breatharianism as a Way of Life (70min)
19. Camila and Akahi:Expectant Breatharian Parents (37min)
20. The Venerable Master Guang Qin: Food-free through Samadhi (15min)
21. Reine-Claire Lussier: Prana For a Busy Lifestyle (75min)
22. Elitom ben Yisrael:Breatharianism for a Working Person (56min)
23. Oberom C. Silva:Returning to Our Divine Self through Breatharianism (88min)
24. Saint Mary Ann de Paredes: The Lily of Quito (16min)
25. Sunyogi Umasankar:Becoming Food-free through Sun Yoga (57min)
26. Nun Shi Hongqing of China: Breatharian for Over 20 Years (14min)

The last one is recent, so we can bet there will be many new episodes each months.

There are even those not belonging to that series :

Ram Bahadur Bonjan (46min) : [suprememastertv.com]
Fruitarian Fitness with Jericho Sunfire - 23 Aug 2010 [suprememastertv.com]

and probably many others...



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Continuing about the Ching Hai's QuanYin convenient interpretation :

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http://godsdirectcontact.us/method.html
The Chinese characters "Quan Yin (Guan Yin) " mean contemplation of the Sound Vibration. The Method includes meditation on both the inner Light and the inner Sound. These inner experiences have been repeatedly described in the spiritual literature of all the world's religions since ancient times.


For example, the Christian Bible states, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1) This Word is the inner Sound.(...)

Actually there is a "QuanYin method" which seems to be a (the?) Light & Sound meditation method (see links below). I can't read all that's stuf cos it's too long and complex for the time I have devote. But when reading quickly, I notice some similitudes with the arguments Ching Hai uses to promote her own method. Maybe ex-dicsiples could read that and tell us if it's the same method they learnt.

[www.meditationexpert.com]

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Kuan Yin’s Method of Listening to Sound
(...)
In the Surangama Sutra, it’s said that when we use our eyes and see that the boundary of seeing or vision is limited — we only see about 30% of what’s around us. We have to turn our head left and right and backwards to see everything, so we’re only seeing about 30% unless we do that. For HEARING, however, unlike seeing the proportion of efficiency is more like 100%. Doesn’t matter where the sound comes from, you can hear it. There’s no natural blockage or limit. Sound therefore is a more efficient method for cultivation.

The Buddha Manjushri said in this world there is a clear and clean teaching of sound. Sound and chi are closely related. The reason we hear is because of chi — chi (air) can transmit sound. CHI means ENERGY. It exists in all directions, so in the Surangama Sutra, Manjushri said the best way to cultivate was to listen to sound. He examined 25 cultivation methods and said for this world, this Earth, this method was the best for human beings. It can help you attain enlightenment quickly.

(...)
After this you can have all sorts of miraculous superpowers. That’s why Kuan Yin has 32 special appearances. He will follow the sound (thoughts) and try to help people. He can do that because he’s out of the stream of sound so he’s never confused and can follow it back to the origin. The method is so powerful that Kuan Yin used it to reach enlightenment before Shakyamuni, but came back to be an assistant. Manjushri praised this method, Samantabhadra attained enlightenment by using a hearing technique as well.

[amitabhabuddha.wordpress.com]

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The Enlightenment of Guan Yin /Avalokiteshvara
The Bodhisattva Kuan-yin made a great vow to release all sentient beings in the universe from suffering. Numerous miraculous events have been attributed to Kuan-yin all over the world. Because of the intimate relation that he has with us, it is taught that by undertaking his method of cultivating realization, one will obtain swift success.

There is an important passage in the Shurangama Sutra in which Bodhisattva Kuan-yin relates how he cultivated realization. In that sutra, twenty-five bodhisattvas, in response to the inquiry of Buddha Shakyamuni, explained their methods of cultivation and spiritual attainment. Afterwards, the Buddha asked Bodhisattva Manjushri to evaluate what had been said. Manjushri pointed out that Kuan-yin’s way of cultivating realization through hearing was best suited for the people of this world.

(...)

On Ching Hai's website, you can find a short introduction about QuanYin, which doesn't mention the goddess at all : http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/quanyin.html

There is also a FAQ where Ching Hai mention the goddess (or boddhisatva may be more accurate) but very discreetly, and in a way which lead to confusion :

http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/faq.txt

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The Quan Yin Method Frequently Asked Questions
2.0 The Quan Yin Method in brief

2.1 What is the Quan Yin Method?

Quan Yin Method is a meditation technique on both the Inner Light and
the Inner Sound. The Chinese characters "Quan Yin" mean contemplation
of the sound vibration. These inner experiences have been repeatedly [No need to say who is Quan Yin?]
described in the spiritual literature of all the world's religions
since ancient times.

With this method, we can all attain understanding of the great joy,
compassion and heavenly bliss described in religious and spiritual
scriptures around the world. More than just a simple meditation
technique, this living teaching brings to anyone who sincerely desires
it the ability to carry the meditative state into all parts of their
lives. It offers each of us a way to have true love and understanding
for our fellow beings, to play our part in society while still keeping
our mind clear of worry and attachment, and a way to find freedom here
and beyond this world.

2.2 Who teaches the Quan Yin Method?

Supreme Master Ching Hai teaches (...) [it seems noone else can teach it... cos it's not mentioned]

2.3 How do I learn the Quan Yin Method?

Supreme Master Ching Hai accepts people from all backgrounds and religious
affiliations for initiation. (...) [again, Ching Hai^TM only]

2.4 What is the initiation and the Five Precepts?

The initiation into the Quan Yin Method is not an esoteric ritual or a
ceremony for entering a new religion. During the initiation, specific
instruction in meditation on the Inner Light and Inner Sound is given,
and Supreme Master Ching Hai provides the "spiritual transmission". This first
taste of Divine Presence is given in silence. Supreme Master Ching Hai need not
be physically present in order to open this door for you. This
transmission is an essential part of the Method. The techniques [this should be easy to check...]
themselves will bring little benefit without the Grace of the Master.


(..................quite far after that..................)

Q: If one attains the highest level after practicing the Quan Yin
Method, what would it be like, and have any of Your disciples attained
that?

M: If one attains the highest level in Quan Yin practice, then one
becomes like Bodhisattva Avolakitesvara, you know, Quan Yin [wouldn't it be relevant to say that Avolakitesvara is Quan Yin himself?]
Bodhisattva, who can hear everything, can see everything, and can help
people in different corners of the universe, without having to be near
them or without having to know their names or person. And this is of
course the goal of every follower of different religions, to become
omnipresent, to become a source of blessing for all the suffering [I didn't know that]
beings. And some of our disciples have attained near this kind of
level, but they are very humble. You will not be able to discern them. [I wonder who teached them humility...] :)
It's just sometimes other disciples can tell, or during meditation then
you can see, who is which level.

Supreme Master Ching Hai answered on December 23, 1994 in Thailand
A Telephone Interview with Radio Five On "Sunday Focus"

(...)


Q: Dear Master, there is always a fear of the unknown. How can one be
certain that the Quan Yin method is the right one?

M: Of course, you don't know until you try. But as you see, from our
lining principles, you can see that, even if the Quan Yin method
doesn't do you any good, or you are not certain of the benefit of the
Quan Yin method, one thing you can be certain that it will do you no
harm. No harm if you eat vegetarian diet, at least, you will be
healthy, if you don't believe in any spiritual compassion at all. It is
proved scientifically that vegetarian diet is healthy for you. All the
hospitals in the world are built for the meat eaters. You know that! [of course, why would we put in hospitals dead people who followed crazy breatharians...]


Q: Master, which religion does the Quan Yin Method belongs to and how
does it differ to other religions?

M: I have explained that all religions are actually the same. They all
talk about the supreme power, the noblest and most compassionate
quality within us. So I include all the religions. I never taught you
to attack each other's religions. This is not the proper attitude for
ordinary people, let alone the spiritual practitioners. Isn't that so? [did I answer your question?... No... Yes Master!!!]

Supreme Master Ching Hai answered on March 9, 1993 in Singapore

(...)

Q: Master, will I be able to find my dead relatives and communicate
with them if I practice the Quan Yin meditation?

M: Dead relatives? Oh, sure, sure. But I am afraid maybe you don't like [no comment]
to go there.


Q: Did the Quan Yin Method exist also in ancient times?

M: The Sixth Patriarch Hui Neng passed down the Quan Yin Method to ten [really? And what about Quan Yin himself?]
disciples. However, the lineage of the method was discontinued later.
It was because the most enlightened disciple had gone to another
country and developed there, and this country heard no more about this
lineage.

Sometimes because of political reasons, economic reasons or the
collective karma of the people of that country does not allow Master's
teachings to be continued there. So it will go develop in another
place.

This time is urgent, besides so many disasters, so many wars, so many [ah, by the way...]
suffering in this world, you can't wait to select one or two disciples.
It is the order from heaven that we spread it quickly and openly. It is
the mercy of heaven, of Buddhas also.

We have accumulated too much negative karma, through the killing of
animals en masse, and through many destructive weapons.


Supreme Master Ching Hai answered on April 27, 1994
Korean Religious News, Issue No.1062, in Korea

There remain a lot of stuf to read (more than a half), but no mention to Quan Yin anymore.

Before further investigation, Ching Hai's method seems to be a hacked version of QuanYin method, apparently much more simple (dumb?) than the original, and also denying it's roots.



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Ching Hai is coming at her followers from many directions at once.

As shown above, in fact she is using the Breatharian fraud quite seriously. Why?
They don't use it on new recruits to Ching Hai, on them they talk about being a Vegan and saving the planet.
But for those who get more involved, they start to push Breatharianism.
Why?
First off, as Ching Hai has cut business cross-promotion with some of them, they mention Ching Hai's fictional bio in their book, she promotes them. Cross-marketing to sell books a seminars.
But more importantly, its about the psychological power and control. If Ching Hai can use others to promote the belief that her followers should STARVE THEMSELVES for Ching Hai, then Ching Hai is frankly wielding the power of life/death. So those followers who want to believe Breatharianism, get lured into it, and spend thousands of dollars trying to learn how to do it. Then they try it, over and over. Starving themselves for days, until they have to eat, and feel like they've failed. (and damaging their bodies and internal organs).
Its an IMPOSSIBLE goal set-up by Ching Hai, to give her more control over her followers.

On top of this, Ching Hai is telling them she can teach them to be Enlightened and have superpowers, if they do her meditation 2+ hours a day. She tells them they can achieve perfect happiness.
Another impossible goal and fraud, that will lead to failure. (countless sects use that one).

Then Ching Hai tells them they need 19 trillion Ching Hai Points (or whatever) to achieve enlightenment. Another impossible goal.

Then Ching Hai forces them to make an oath to be a Vegan for life. So of course they are going to break that oath from time to time, so there is more failure and guilt.

Ching Hai tells them to watch her TV show constantly, and buy all her books, DVD's, recordings, and her so-called 'art' and other products. A true believer is going to end up spending all of their money on Ching Hai, and be bankrupt.

Then Ching Hai convinces them the world is coming to an end in 2012. More stress and pressure and paranoia.

And this is just a quick overview, Ching Hai is doing far more than that. So she has almost total control of her key followers and very high levels of control of the more general followers.
They are dedicating their lives to Ching Hai, spending all of their money, watching Ching Hai TV constantly, and some are damaging their health and risking their lives with the Breatharian scam.

Ching Hai has absolute control, and no one knows where the money goes. They don't even know where Ching Hai is hiding.
There are paranoid fears of the end of the world, persecutions, conspiracies.
Ching Hai uses deception to lure people in.
There are a lot of media reports already about abuses in the group, as well as illegal behavior.
Followers are engineered to never be good enough, and always fail, as the goals are impossible.

so in fact, Ching Hai hits every single criteria about an unsafe group.
Warning Signs [www.culteducation.com]

And for those who get deeply involved in Ching Hai, the SMCH group is a destructive cult, who targets vulnerable people.



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