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Re: Supreme Master Ching Hai, secte, francais, France
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 30, 2011 12:35AM

Strange... as I am trying to track Ching Hai's activities since the begining in order to make a timeline (it could be helpful to have an overview), I looked for her official biography in french. It disappeared. http:/ /www. contactdirectavecdieu .org/bio.html

I remember I've had a look last week, and it was still there. Now it's only aviable on Google cache. [webcache.googleusercontent.com]

Since a few weeks I notice more and more missing webpage (connexion failed). Do you think that Ching Hai is trying to clean something? Or maybe her servers are down...



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Re: Supreme Master Ching Hai, secte, francais, France
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 30, 2011 01:03AM

Actually, all the website www. contactdirectavecdieu .org/ (french version of godsdirectcontact) is down.

Who knows... maybe it is a DoS attack by the Anonymous :D

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CHING HAI-GATE, Supreme Master cover-up? secte, francais, France
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 30, 2011 04:32AM

Make sure to immediately make COPIES on your local computers of any relevant Ching Hai postings.
Copy it from the Google cache, take a screen shot, and save it in a file, with the date.

Because time and time again, when groups and sects start getting EXPOSED in these threads, their webmasters under the orders of the group, start to "disappear" parts of the website, like certain falsehoods and lies, and things that they are saying that might be illegal. (like making medical claims of healing, pyramid schemes, cultish activities, dangerous instructions, claims the Guru is God, asking for large sums of money, etc.).

So for sure, Ching Hai would not read a forum like this. She is too pathologically afraid of normal criticism. That is why Ching Hai hides from the media, she found out the media might criticize her.
(But Ching Hai certainly read VegNews, and then DIRECTED her followers to go after VegNews, you could tell by how the Ching Hai followers all acted together. You can bet there is an email with instructions from Ching Hai to go after VegNews and to promote Will Tuttle).

Note also, there basically has not been ONE Ching Hai supporter posting in this thread, even though a few hundred Ching Hai-ers are reading it. That is no accident, as the Ching Hai people have posted on every other thread that criticizes Ching Hai.
They have not posted here. Why?
Because the Ching Hai internet sales experts, can see they cannot get away with their Ching Hai bullshit on a site like this, with people who know what they are doing.
So Ching Hai's people, probably under the orders of Ching Hai, told them not to post in this thread. That is a certainty.


But Ching Hai's webmasters, and website managers who have been named in this thread from WhoIS searches, they monitor threads like this.
And when they see a Ching Hai falsehood, lie, or perhaps even a potentially illegal Ching Hai claim is EXPOSED, it will get deleted immediately, within hours. That has happened countless times on this forum with other groups.
They get BUSTED, then they try to cover it up.

The stuff about moving WORKERS from country to country without proper working papers. There are already reports of bogus Ching Hai marriages, to keep workers for the TV station. If Ching Hai WORKERS are being moved to countries, using false stories, without the proper papers. That is very very serious, and whoever is doing that would know how serious that is. So if any Ching Hai website has information about that, it will be GONE very soon.

So that's why if people have a screenshot of the webpage before they alter it, then the cover-up of the lie can be exposed.
Then that proves they know they are deceiving people, and then trying to conceal it.

Of course, websites go down from time to time, for maintenance.
But they also go down, when bogus content from Ching Hai full of falsehoods and lies, is being deleted, and covered-up.

So make copies of the Google cache in french, even if there is not time to read them all yet. They will come in handy at some point.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 30, 2011 04:37AM

(also, the translations posted above were a copy/paste from Google translate)

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 30, 2011 04:42AM

also, its a good idea to repost and cross-post key posts from other threads, as they tend to get deleted as the months and years pass by.
Often, the links stop working.
Hundreds of people, and more, read these threads over the months and years ahead.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: puresoul ()
Date: April 30, 2011 05:21AM

More bullshits from chinghai , videos shown as on this link-probably won’t stay long as they are not allowed to download from SMTV. [cid-067041387a20a578.office.live.com]
Topic title: breatharian, God quality & the power of Quan-Yin method in December 2010

The stuff used to be ‘initiates only’ are now broadcasted on SMTV and no secrets anymore. Some of her ardent followers have put the scripts on their blogs. Unfortunately, as the biggest followers of her are Chinese (from Taiwan & China), these blogs are usually written in Chinese. [tw.myblog.yahoo.com]

Crazy stuff:
As usual, she turns the idea of ‘blessings’ to spiritual points (heavenly money) with her smart business brain.
The Master from 9th level (Her- a supreme God) bless 400 times more than 5th level master on her disciples.
Other Quan Yin like meditation group (Sant Mat), 2000 followers have reached 5th level (perfect enlightened master level) over the past 70 years, in Quan yin group alone has 402 disciples reach 5th level. (she probably knows some disciples already find out the meditation technique of quan yin method is just identical to Sant Mat when Sant Mat info broadcasted on smtv)
Political revolution to gain freedom (just happened recently) in Arabia world due to her spent her own thousands of billions points. ( if a master spend all the spiritual points might die..).
The Sun is the 5th level beings (enlightened master level) bless human beings as well as various animals (with different quantity of points) etc. Disciples are encouraged to meditate under the sun. (expect more disciples to get sun burn)
How much more if a disciple to give up would be closer to God such as drinking/eating/sex…etc.—(encourage breatharian)
She is cooking up back plans of Plan B & C &D
Many more crazy stuff on videos…

The stuff she mentioned before are not revealed - her craft- jewelry(specially), paintings, sm logo, sm clothing all possessing many spiritual points. A glimpse of her physical body will gain millions of points.



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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 30, 2011 07:51AM

[forum.culteducation.com]
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The Anticult
It looks like Ching Hai tried to set-up her home in France in Sept 2008.

Obviously that would not work out, as France actually is not receptive to have their citizens exploited by these cults and sects as easily as other countries.

Notice all the money, and millions of dollars Ching Hai has to spend, and throw around.

As in the game of Where's Waldo, Where's Ching Hai?

It would be interesting to know where she has located her home-base, and her inner circle of unpaid personal servants, all dressed in white, being fed minimal food, and forced to sleep outside.
(obviously, that is a cultic technique of control, not enough food, forced to work and meditate all day to exhaustion, not enough sleep, all standard techniques of cultic control)

QUOTE: [forum.culteducation.com]
"To be honest, I could see from my balcony in rows of onion, all dressed in white, like zombies and silent for hours. After they were given a tiny bowl of something and some slept outside. I swear this is not reassuring. I sleep better. "

Google "ching hai roquebrune" : [www.net1901.org] ASSOCIATION INTERNATIONALE DE MAITRE SUPREME CHING HAI DE LA COTE D'AZUR, with this address : la Dragonnière, 242, avenue Virginie Heriot, 06190 Roquebrune-Cap-Martin.
I checked [assoc.journal-officiel.gouv.fr] : the association is officialy registered at this address in january 2011, which is supposed to mean that they are still there (at least they still own the place).

Google "hotel europe village roquebrune" : many pages like that one [www.gralon.net] mention the Europe Village Hotel, with 25 rooms. with the same address : 242 Av. V. Hériot. Cap Martin., 06190 Roquebrune-cap-martin

So we could think that La Dragonnière = Europe Village (one would be the former name of the other)

But...

GoogleMaps "la Dragonnière, 242, avenue Virginie Heriot, 06190 Roquebrune-Cap-Martin" : [maps.google.fr]

Google effectively mention the hotel "La Dragonnière" (the red "A"), not at the good address, but in an adjacent street : 16 Avenue Paul Doumer 06190 Roquebrune-Cap-Martin, which seems to be much bigger than a 25 rooms hotel. (see that hotel on StreetView : [maps.google.fr])
At the official address of the Association (the green arrow), if you zoom until you enter Google Streetview, look for the yellow arrow-sign "Europe Village" , a 2 stars Hotel : [maps.google.fr],

On the opposite site is the street photographied by Nice Matin [www.nicematin.com] (the picture you can see in the article have been shot from that place)


I found a picture of the Europe Village hotel : [www.quelleroute.com]


With that picture we can determine which house is the Europe Village hotel (camera angle in red) :


So why is Ching Hai's Association registered at La Dragonnière if they are actually at Europe Village? Maybe all the area is called "La Dragonnière", and Ching Hai may play on that ambiguity to confuse the issue... or whatever.

Looking for an other confirmation i found out something strange :

Search "242, avenue Virginie Heriot, 06190 Roquebrune-Cap-Martin" on the website Mappy you will have one of these 3 results : [fr.mappy.com]
1. Association MSCH
2. Sky Love - Activity : real-estate renovation
3. LANCELOT
If you clik "Plus d'infos locales" (more local informations), you have the 3 results for the same address :


"MSCH" is Maitre Supreme Ching Hai, of course.
"Sky Love", we also already heard about it : [www.nicematin.com]
Google "lancelot ching hai" : there's an "Isabelle LANCELOT" mentioned on almost all Ching Hai's PDF as the contact in Paris for the SMCH Association [direkter-kontakt-mit-gott.org]

Just for information.

In that article [www.nicematin.com] it is said that SCI SkyLove (aka Ching Hai in anonymous mode) bought the Europe Village hotel, then "rent" it to the Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association. Apparently, it is rent to the association AND/OR to Miss Lancelot. In France, owner can not be responsible of anything happening in the property they rent to someone else. So this situation is very convenient for Ching Hai of course, as she is the only one possessing the house (like if she made a personal placement, but with followers money), and in the same time, if the police notice any problem, only followers (Lancelot and all the basic followers who attent to the meditation retreats) will get into trouble. It's a perfect 2 in 1 benefit.

Who knows... All the houses she bought under her name with followers money (for the good of humanity, of course) everywhere in the world.. one day, when she will be too old for that shit (it seems that it's going to happen), she may just sell every houses and enjoy life on her own... and her followers, abandonned, with no more meditation center to play with God together in memory of their blessing Master, will only have their own tears to cry.

End of the story? I hope that the dead servers of [www.contactdirectavecdieu.org] (Google cache) and now also [www.godsimmediatecontact.com] (not even in Google cache! totally disappeared)



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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 30, 2011 08:11AM

Luckily http://www.godsimmediatecontact.com is still available for consultation on The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine : [replay.web.archive.org]

It's mabe time to make a lot of backups. Do someone know the best way to do that?



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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 30, 2011 08:24AM

There is an online service [www.freezepage.com] which "freeze" the content of a website at a moment of time, then providing a link that anybody can see. It would be a great tool if it was not limited to 30 days (or you are obliged to connect to the service once a month, if not so your account is deleted).

If someone know an other service with unlimited capacity, it could be helpfull.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: Ocean_Of_Lies ()
Date: April 30, 2011 08:53AM

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puresoul
More bullshits from chinghai , videos shown as on this link-probably won’t stay long as they are not allowed to download from SMTV. [cid-067041387a20a578.office.live.com]
Topic title: breatharian, God quality & the power of Quan-Yin method in December 2010

I got them on my hard drive. No time to watch them now. I just noticed something funny : it's the same place than here when the talked about martians : [www.youtube.com] but she seems to have lost all her motivation on the new videos. She avoid some questions, like "I can not tell you that" or "you would not understand", and her disciples seem to be a little bit disapointed...

I also notice that man are on one side, women on the other side. Is there a funny reason for that?

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