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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 26, 2011 12:55PM

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puresoul
Somebody has checked the advert of her speech at United Nation. It was found out some halls at UN are free for outsiders to rent and give private speeches (not formal speech & not on UN official record) for private audience there for any trivial topics such as ‘ how to change nappies for babies’etc.
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Supreme Master Qinghai

Sender: crkao@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (Mad Dog Mad Dog), the letter area: religion
Title: Ching Hai is a liar of her followers are fools
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I often went to school in the United States to study library to read Central Daily Overseas Edition
(Day eight) almost every month in the newspaper that bought Master Ching Hai
The full-page ad (Note Central Daily Overseas Edition only eight pages a day)
Advertisement to the effect that Master Ching Hai English speech to the United Nations (special emphasis on advertising
Published in English) together with full speech and said how the unprecedented grand occasion

Presentation in my personal opinion is no logical thread of
Even more suspicious is that the newspaper ads do like is a part of the body
This is misleading advertising by newspaper reports
I imagined I suspect so he called friends at the United Nations work
Asked who the hell ever heard of this number two, he said never heard of
I date on the ads again him and ask him to check whether the day of Ching Hai in the United Nations
Speech my friend said there is no record
But my friend said that there may be borrowing a lot of meeting rooms by the United Nations office
Every day to do private speech twenty times more than a dozen such small lecture topics from how to change the urine of small infants
Cloth to how to fish there

I said, not quite like it according to the ad seems to be for all Member States made ​​a formal speech
My friend said, could never have a record of this address

Later I'll see is to forget it
Think back to Taiwan and see this just hype, but the women are not bad mix
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The Lies of Ching Hai - The Lies of Ching Hai - The Lies of Ching Hai
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 26, 2011 01:04PM

Many sects use that technique, to try and claim false association with an organization.
Byron Katie did the exact same thing trying to make it sound like she spoke at Harvard, when in fact she spoke at some church across the street from Harvard Yard. [forum.culteducation.com]

Same thing with the UN. They rent a public room for their followers to have a meeting, and try to make it sound like they addressed the UN General Assembly. Its a scam, a lie, a fraud.
Add it to the list of the Lies of ka-Ching Hai.

Same scam happens with the British parliament, sects claim to have spoken to parliament. In fact, they address some sub-sub-sub-committee, where no one is listening.
The art of the lie, to dupe too-trusting followers.

When will their dozens/hundreds of lies catch up with them?

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: NoMaster ()
Date: April 26, 2011 05:18PM

We talked about a conflict of interests between Will Tuttle and Ching Hai.

Here is the proof :

(colors and bold as in the original mail)



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From: Centre de Paris Quan Yin <**********@gmail.com>
Date: 2010/3/14
Subject: Fwd: Fw : The World Peace Diet is now #1 best seller
To:


Message du FG:


Dear noble saints,

Subject: The World Peace Diet is now #1 best seller

We would like to express our heartfelt gratefulness to every pure heart that co-creates this miracle, and most of all, the divine inspiration, encouragement and blessings from Master that make everything possible!

The World Peace Diet is now
#1 best seller on Amazon.com !!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=sv_b_3

Thank you, all the saints that put efforts and kind support!
We are so touched by your instant action of love and dedication.

We also thank Dr. Will Tuttle for his compassion to carry out this wonderful Campaign for the benefit of our animal friends and the world.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Before reach #1, Dr. Will Tuttle wrote a touching note on March 13, 2010
“Unexpected success! Toward critical mass...” on http://www.worldpeacediet.com/


May you be blessed always by the love of God~

Thank you so much!
With Master's love,


FG

Be Veg.
Go Green. Save The Planet!
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Subject line – March 12 World Peace Diet Compassion and Health Campaign


There is a book, written by our friend Dr. Will Tuttle, who has received the Shining World Hero Award, called The World Peace Diet, and it is in alignment with Master’s teachings and helps people understand the spiritual and the practical benefits of a vegetarian & vegan diet.

On Friday, March 12, Dr. Tuttle is making a special promotion of The World Peace Diet, and it’s called the “March 12 World Peace Diet Compassion and Health Campaign.” We are hoping that many people buy The World Peace Diet through Amazon or Barnes & Noble on that day, to help to boost it to the top of the bestseller lists. This will create more opportunities for media conversations about the effects of our culture's ongoing violence toward billions of animals for food.

To encourage people to buy the book on March 12, many generous and caring sponsors have donated valuable bonus gifts to anyone who buys The World Peace Diet on that day.
There are downloadable audio books, recipes, music, meditations, e-books, e-courses; discount coupons (like 10% off purchases from Vegan Essentials and others); and the chance to enter drawings for some valuable prizes.

We can help our world so much by buying a copy of The World Peace Diet on March 12 (for ourselves or to give to a library or friend), and spreading the message of compassion for all life. If it becomes a best-seller, there will be many more opportunities to spread the message and help stop global warming and meat-eating. It’s a great way to help animals, the Earth, hungry people, and all of us. Together, we can help it to happen.

This is the page to go to on March 12 (or before for a free reminder email) - http://worldpeacediet.org/promo.htm - everything is explained there.

Together, if we spread the word, we can raise human consciousness higher – to vegetarianism and veganism – which is so important now! Thanks.

There was also a pic with that email :


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Celestia De Lamour - The Lies of Ching Hai - The Lies of Ching Hai
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 26, 2011 05:31PM

Celestia De Lamour [www.edifyingspectacle.org]

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: NoMaster ()
Date: April 26, 2011 09:47PM

On Will Tuttle's website [worldpeacediet.org] (link given in the email above) you can also have a look on the "cross-promotion" business AntiCult was talking about. Ching Hai inside, of course.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: NoMaster ()
Date: April 27, 2011 03:34AM

What the hell is this about? Why "lifelong" residents? Is it just a lifelong (?) "meditation retreat" or something like Scientology's SeaOrg?


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From: Foreign Group <******@thepositive.info>
Date: 2011/4/18
Subject: Master's instruction - lifelong residents


To All Centers,

Master’s merciful instruction:
If anyone wants to be a lifelong – “resident” it’s open now.
Apply first; it will then be presented to Master for Her approval.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Contact Persons,

Those who wish to be lifelong residents, they need to fill in the attached form in English and give it to the Contact Person. The Contact Person has to send the form(s) to FG ASAP. FG will then present the applicants’ list to Master for Her approval.

Notes for the applicants wanting to be lifelong residents:
The applicant complicated with any of the following conditions will not be accepted.
1. Disobey Master's instructions and/or the rules of the residents' group
2. Impure motives, running from worldly obligations
3. Poor group meditation attendance record
4. Precept(s) violation
5. Family or spouse disagreement
6. His or her family is involved with the animal business, such as animal farming, fish farming, meat restaurant, etc.
7. Has debt
8. Has a severe illness or chronic disease
9. Too old
10. Has psychological problems
11. Homosexual, bisexual


* Please CPs send the application forms to FG at ******@thepositive.info


With Master's love~!

FG


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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: puresoul ()
Date: April 27, 2011 05:08AM

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What the hell is this about? Why "lifelong" residents? Is it just a lifelong (?) "meditation retreat" or something like Scientology's SeaOrg?
Sounds like she is recruiting attendents/monks.

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Re: Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda
Posted by: dynamic ()
Date: April 27, 2011 05:16AM

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9. Too old
10. Has psychological problems
11. Homosexual, bisexual

So she is discriminating based on age AND sexual orientation, NICE! Sounds like a loving demigod to me. More fuel to add to the fire.

She is recruitng monks/nuns/attendents.

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Supreme Master Ching Hai - Lifelong Residents - illegal migrant labor?
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 27, 2011 11:03AM

Another very very important Ching Hai leak, about how Ching Hai recruits her followers. Keep those internal Ching Hai emails coming, as the public has a right to know what is really going on behind the scenes.

Here is the Ching Hai smoking gun about recruiting Lifelong Residents. [forum.culteducation.com]

Lifelong?
Yes, as shown in this thread, the first step is to get her followers to commit to being a lifelong Vegan, and then that gets increased to becoming a lifelong Ching Hai follower, and then a lifelong Ching Hai Resident, if you are selected by Queen Ching Hai.
It sounds somewhat akin to the Scientology Sea Org, but more of an eastern model, where the Guru has a permanent circle of people who work for them, for no pay of course! Why pay people, when you can train them to work for free, or even pay to work?

What are the Ching Hai criteria?
- Absolute mindless total obedience to Ching Hai. (that shows its a cultish sect right there).
- Ching Hai wants people with family MONEY, as you can't have debt, so you can buy things from Ching Hai, and pay your own way. One assumes Ching Hai will run a credit-check on you before she lets you join her Lifelong Residents.
And if you don't have to work for a living, then you must have family money supporting you. So Ching Hai is looking for obedient lost puppies, with FAMILY MONEY.

- You have to already have been a follower of Ching Hai, and be willing to lie to Ching Hai, and say everything is great with your family, who you are about to abandon for Ching Hai, as you can be moved anywhere in the world.

- you have to be young, healthy, and heterosexual. As mentioned, that is Ching Hai practicing Ageism age discrimination, health discrimination, mental health discrimination, and sexual orientation discrimination against homosexuals.
Ching Hai says she got rejected herself for being a female. Now Ching Hai is getting revenge by rejecting others in the same way? That is truly disgusting ugly behavior by Ching Hai.

Of course she wants young and healthy people.
So what are they going to do? Meditate on the Ching Hai godhead for 12 hrs a day?
Not a chance. You are going to W-O-R-K, like you never worked before. It says above you are going to WORK, and be moved anywhere in the world.
Is that legal? Do they have the proper work visa's? Or will people be moved illegally around the work, using false pretenses? (take a wild guess).

And you are not going to get even a McJob pay, you are going to be charged to work, to pay your own expenses, and buy more Ching Hai products, she has thousands of products for sale.

What will you do?
Even in the Ching Hai bird book, its clear what you are going to do. You are going to work for Ching Hai 18rs a day, office work, mailing orders, taking orders, translating books, house cleaning, being assigned to work at a TV station for no pay. Cleaning up buckets of bird crap from all those caged-birds, and being an unpaid dog-walker for Ching Hai's pack of dogs, as well as cleaning up their crap as well.
Those were the folks who were carrying rocks after midnight to build the illegal Ching Hai island. So its going to be an unpaid Ching Hai workcamp.
Again, nothing new with this, many sects recruit people with FAMILY MONEY, who are vulnerable, to come and work for free, and pay to work. Its called having unpaid servants, they used to be called indentured slaves.

In many areas, having people do your company work for no pay is breaking labor laws. Or if they are paid a minimum, but work overtime for no pay, that is also illegal, and many have complained to the state, and got their proper backpay.
If they are moved from country to country, under false pretenses, that is called criminal human trafficking and migrant smuggling by the UN. [www.unodc.org]

How many complaints are being heard already about this?
How many followers have disappeared overseas when the US Feds were looking for them?

Some have said Ching Hai is a good person. That is false. She is a self-centered, selfish manipulator. She knows what she is doing, and is looking for people with family money, to come and work for her for free, and even pay to work. She is looking for young, healthy people, who have many years of hard work in them.

Are they going to be near Ching Hai? Of course not, those positions are filled. These folks will be working at locations when Ching Hai is not there.
Is it lifelong? of course not, whenever Ching Hai decides, or tires of you, they throw you out. Then the person has nothing.

Its preplanned, organized exploitation and abuse. There are many reports of these people getting screamed at from Ching Hai. A Ching Hai Lifelong Resident, sounds like being a slave for life.

If anyone else has some of the internal Ching Hai emails, please remove the personal details, and then post them into this thread, so the public can learn what is really going on.

Do all these Lifelong Residents, have the proper documentation, in each country in the world? Or are they being moved around under false pretenses? Is everything being disclosed, or not?
If people are being moved to WORK without proper papers, or bogus marriages for work purposes, that is migrant smuggling and human trafficking.

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[www.unodc.org]
UNODC on human trafficking and migrant smuggling

Human trafficking is the acquisition of people by improper means such as force, fraud or deception, with the aim of exploiting them.

Smuggling migrants involves the procurement for financial or other material benefit of illegal entry of a person into a State of which that person is not a national or resident.

Virtually every country in the world is affected by these crimes. The challenge for all countries, rich and poor, is to target the criminals who exploit desperate people and to protect and assist victims of trafficking and smuggled migrants, many of whom endure unimaginable hardships in their bid for a better life.
As the only United Nations entity focusing on the criminal justice element of these crimes, the work that UNODC does to combat human trafficking and the smuggling of migrants is underpinned by the United Nations Convention on Transnational Organized Crime and its protocols on trafficking in persons and migrant smuggling.

To learn more visit What is [www.unodc.org] human trafficking? and What is migrant smuggling? [www.unodc.org]
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Supreme Master Ching Hai - Lifelong Residents - illegal slave labor?
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: April 27, 2011 11:10AM

Yep, Will Tuttle used the dishonest Ching Hai amazon Bestseller method.
You get a group of followers to all buy the book at the same time. If a couple hundred people all buy the book in the same hour, for that hour it becomes a "bestseller" for that HOUR. Then it drops.

Will Tuttle has zero credibility about Ching Hai, as they are cross-marketing referral partners.
Why is that not openly disclosed by Will Tuttle?
Every time he starts running public relations for Ching Hai, if he were ethical, he would state the conflict of interest.

You can't shill for your business partners, and claim to be objective or factual. If your colleagues followers made your book a 1 hour fake bestseller on Amazon, then you owe her favors and support.
That is called bartering marketing services, even if no cash exchanged hands.
Its very unethical to NOT disclose that.

Ching Hai does that kind of cross-promo marketing with the Breatharians too, they put her bio in their books, and link to her website. She puts them on her website. Tit for tat.
You scratch mommy Ching Hai's back, she will scratch yours.

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