Oh yes, hitler for sure achieved samadhi in his underground bhajan kutir. Butler will soon be playing with hitler in the spiritual sky. Jai ho!

But yes, 99 years ago today, Mein Kampf was published, and India continues to be one of the top readers of the book worldwide. Presumably, Hinduttva has found a kindred spirit. I'm not sure what parts align with Aryan Vedic idealism, but it's safe to say divisive puranic works have a naive view of "superiority" and "purity."

Lest we forget:

"Ah, yes. So these English people, they were very expert in making propaganda. They killed Hitler by propaganda. I don't think Hitler was so bad man."

[Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation -- June 17, 1976, Toronto]

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In 1938, Heinrich Himmler, a leading member of Germany's Nazi party and a key architect of the Holocaust, sent a five-member team to Tibet to search for the origins of the supposed Aryan race. Author Vaibhav Purandare recounts the fascinating story of this expedition, which passed through India.

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Hitler's choice of the swastika as the Nazis' main and official symbol was linked to the belief in the Aryan cultural descent of the German people. They considered the early Aryans to be the prototypical white invaders and the sign of the swastika to be a symbol of the Aryan master race.[206] The theory was inspired by the German archaeologist Gustaf Kossinna,[207] who argued that the ancient Aryans were a superior Nordic race from northern Germany who expanded into the steppes of Eurasia, and from there into India, where they established the Vedic religion.[207]

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Hitler Invited Dandibhatla Viswanatha Sastry to Decode Vedas & Build Missiles and Weapons

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To just point a few...

Years ago, I eagerly picked up the Bhagavad Gita. Because of the book's exalted reputation, I expected inspiration to become a better person.

Instead, to my growing dismay, I felt that the Gita read like a Nazi motivational manual. Arjuns is a man of courage, wisdom and compassion, horrified at the prospect of war, who does not want to kill the people he loves, Arjuna is horror stricken at the prospect of his killing them, murdering their history, obliterating their memory.

I wanted to be Arjuna.

Instead Krishna reframes Arjuna's compassion as cowardice and commands him, as a warrior, to do his duty and fight. Keisha then gives a vast Olympian cosmic vantage point that renders individual human lives, human loves, human hopes as infinitesimal trifles, unworthy of attention from an elite, enlightened brave warrior.

There's just one source,Felix Kersten, Himmler's masseur/bodyworker, who reportedly alleged that Himmler liked the Bhagavad Gita.



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Interestingly, and on the topic of this cult and its adherence to the Gita war-mongering text, Tulsi Gabbard, who felt a great need to join the industrial war complex years ago and take money from all manner of war criminals, is all of a sudden rightfully put on a "security watchlist" for air flights.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/08/07/federal-air-marshal-whistleblowers-expose-weaponized-tsa-quiet-skies-program/

I'm personally glad religious fanatical nutjobs are watched carefully during flights and do not feel it breaches any "right" of hers...

"The Quiet Skies program’s purpose is to protect Americans on domestic flights from those who may present an elevated security risk. Since the TSA identified Gabbard as a “security risk,” she unknowingly had “two explosive-detection canine teams, one Transportation Security Specialist (explosives), one plainclothes TSA supervisor, and three federal air marshals on every flight she boards.”

It's not like she gets less peanuts or access to inflight entertainment. TSA just wants to make sure that if in the unlikely event that God or Butler commandeth her in any compelling way to kill all the demons, there's a plan in place. since it appears to be her and her guru's general rhetoric to create a divisive stance against the proverbial demons that are ready to pounce on them every chance they get!

The fact is that fanatical cults, including the hare Krishna, fall into the category of groups that feel a higher power ordains their actions, and they have the right to act out the will of god, which apparently only they are privileged to.

Let's face it. Tulsi Gabbard grew up hearing her spiritual master rant against minorities, science, and her father's hate of gay folks. She felt randomly compelled to join the military-industrial complex and has no issues touting her solder status when it suits her. At the same time, she hypocritically decries the so-called war-monger cabal. I know few hare Krishnas who would EVER join the fucking military. Meanwhile, Bhaktivedanta, her parama guru, had expressed on a number of occasions that he envisions a world where if people do not chant, they ought to be shot dead, and let's not forget his claim that "Hitler was not so bad"...

Her guru, Sidhswarupananda Paramahamsa/Chris Butler, surrounds himself with armed guards and has gun-happy followers and all manner of military disciples. All of these fanatics literally believe in the Bhagavad Gita story and ideology of "just follow orders, and follow your dharma." If your dharma is to be a killing machine, don't fight it; just surrender to the good Lord and let it rip!

Parasurama anyone? Never mind using your words.

Even the process of Kirtan and congregational gathering is a very militant and antagonistic style of preaching that immediately invades peoples space and makes people feel on edge and uncomfortable.

RUN from this clown act as far as you can, and as soon as it dawns upon you, the total mind trap you have fallen for or were born into. Stop wasting your life in this infant-like cult and fantasy mess of idiocy. Save yourself before it rots your brain out.

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Parents of kids in this cult who use phrases like "false ego" and "self-pity" when discussing their kid's mental health are damaging their kids. Parents of kids in this cult who keep forcing their kids to bow to pictures and statues or sit through shitty-ass, boring infant-like kirtans and listen to drawn-out, boring lectures for hours are essentially imposing an artificial mode of thinking and religious brainwashing mechanisms.

Parents who feel they need to constantly "save" their kids by preaching to them, trying to convince them to worship or accept "Srila Prabhupada" (AKA Butler) as their link to God and their "master" are not just delusional; they basically have a god/guru complex themselves. This savior/messiah complex is debilitating and deteriorates the natural relationship kids and parents should have.

Over time, those parents who wedge a divisive narrative between their beliefs and their kids are doing themselves a disservice.

A spiritual practice/path/journey is personal. It should be authentic to one's level of sincere interest in such topics and based on actual perception and personal realization. Otherwise, it is forced and fake. A child sitting through a kirtan made to chant some random Sanskrit words is not "advancement" and has no rational impact or implication on the child—zero. The only thing it does is deteriorate self-awareness, self-actualization, and critical thinking. That is literally all it contributes to. The child grows up with a singular point of reference: adherence to the cult.

A child being told to go to temple every Sunday, sit through lectures, or go to guru-kula schools against their will is a future disgruntled ex-devotee in the future.

No one deserves to be disrespected in a way that overrides their intuition and autonomy about what is right for them and what their spiritual life should look like.

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> Her guru, Sidhswarupananda Paramahamsa/Chris
> Butler, surrounds himself with armed guards and
> has gun-happy followers and all manner of military
> disciples. All of these fanatics literally believe
> in the Bhagavad Gita story and ideology of "just
> follow orders, and follow your dharma." If your
> dharma is to be a killing machine, don't fight it;
> just surrender to the good Lord and let it rip!

Not forgetting Curly Dave and the anti-abortion violence in Auckland in 1976.

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1976: An arson attack was carried out at the Auckland Medical Aid Centre, which was estimated to cause $100,000 in damages to the facility. The Auckland office of the Sisters Overseas Service organisation was targeted that same evening.[15]

Spend time in stores and churches frequented by parents and young children.

Look at the kids -- unless tranced on screens, the youngsters are bursting with vitality, eager to move, play, explore.

It's torture to force kids that age to sit still for lengthy religious services.

In sane religions, it's set up so parents can easily slip out during services and give youngsters play breaks -- with no loss of prestige.

Hey I recently joined this site for help with debunking religious fascists and I came across this forum which had the word Jagadguru. I was curious because there is a spiritual teacher on youtube who calls Jagadguru Svami Vegananda or TheHumanTeacher as he calls himself on youtube channel which is centered around a text he created named a final instruction sheet for humanity, the majority of his videos are all 30 seperate chapters plus glossary of his text.

His text is the most disgusting thing on the planet given it promotes the death penalty and punishment of innocent gay people, women reduced to the most regressive state where they should be forced to serve their masters, democracy being a falsehood with kings being the best leader and other truly despicable content. I was wondering if anybody has brought him up on this site or looked into debunking his channel because it is a boatload of narcissism where on top of the horrific points I mentioned he describes himself as being a world teacher and enlightened above everyone else.



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Yasuo,

No, this thread is dedicated to the cult of Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa, Jagad Guru. But it sounds like a perfect thread to start on the overall forum.

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Yeah I might see about starting a thread around debunking his text, especially given the cultlike atmosphere he promotes around his book as being the quote “holiest of scriptures”.