IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> When devotees cherry-pick the pleasant parts of
> scripture and avoid acknowledging and dealing with
> the less than pleasant words of their teachers and
> scriptures, they are in essence acknowledging
> that's some of it is flawed and therefore by no
> means absolute ( and willingly remaining in the
> state of cognitive dissonance). When Butler
> devotees are hiding his anti-homosexual rhetoric
> videos, for example, they are in essence
> acknowledging that they think it is wrong or in
> the least, not of any absolute value to anyone.
The question of who is and who is not a truth seeker. Then he will choose the right method. Telling the truth i have never been presented anti-homosexual videos in SIF Poland. Useless anyway.
Absolute value You say? Hm...
S...s....sss ....ssssss .. Sankhya!
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And why not believe in something simpler, e.g. the Holy Trinity - (frequency, amplitude, wavelength). Always an opportunity for heretics to believe in the Holy Wave Four - (frequency, amplitude, wavelength, polarization).
"But sir, when we take out 'time' 'xyz' element and we use transformation, reduction and aggregation we would' have (ether,sound)"
"Yeees!"
"But sir, and if we consider properties and behaviour of virtual particles pair generation and think and do the same we would obtain (ether+sound, air)??"
"Yeees!"
"O Lord! Destroyer of The Worlds, can I tell more?"
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"I Can't tell you more".
IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> When Butler devotees spend an inordinate amount of
> time scrubbing the internet of any reference to
> butlers incongruences they are cherry picking so
> that they appeal to peoples better judgment,
> sensibilities and critical thinking. They are in
> essence controlling what information they choose
> to reveal to the General Public. Which begs the
> question, what are they hiding? Do they not
> believe wholesale that what the guru says and does
> is of absolute value to humanity?
True. Some don't like tricky questions too. Some in the face of a contradiction in their reasoning with the Bhagavad Gita, say it is the worst thing to use the Scriptures against their beliefs ...
I swear! I heard it personally!
IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> Bhaktivedanta swami stated many offensive, immoral
> and irrational things. His disciples spend an
> inordinate amount of time and energy being
> apologist for those words rather than admitting
> that his statements were flawed, inconsistent and
> have no place in modern society and are in no way
> helpful or Progressive.
I approach the recorded conversations with A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami with great reserve. I treat and study comments on His translations and books.
Anyway the question is what is "progressive"? Involving everyone in production and consumption so that the financier can live comfortably with interest? With total destruction of nature?
Is the destruction of moral values? Sun Tzu already knew that in order for the Empire to be safe, immorality should be spread in neighboring countries.
IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> Many of these religious groups view people who are
> not practicing their specific brand of
> spirituality as Heretics, offenders, misguided
> Souls Etc they openly and plainly State this.
True
> The burden of proof is with them.
I would not expect proof. It's rather our job to show the evidence to enforce the law and compensation of victims. Plus not twist the teachings.
> He also spoke about the so-called
> inferiority of women based on their brain size,
There is a difference in brain organisation between men and women. Domination of emotions, spiders vs packs. Etc.
This is the nature. Has its reasons.
IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> Or do we see the fact that he is
> a flawed man, a product of his times? Do we accept
> that he had accurate predictions about the future
> thereby hinting at his omniscience, but reject
> that he knew nothing about the fact that his
> pedophile followers that he put in senior
> positions were molesting children?
Responsibility for follower's behaviour is a long subject. Such pathologies are present in most large denominational groups, especially hierarchical ones. The further away from sheep and practical work and the more politics and ideology the worse. More control, more assets and common problems.
IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> Why have all my YouTube accounts and Twitter
> accounts been permanently deleted simply because I
> posted the footage of Butler and his vile comments
> about homosexuals? What poor soul in Butler's
> group has the unfortunate job of scrubbing the
> internet for him of any bad press?
Denial.Without eliminating the reasons, more materials will appear and the fun will continue.
IanKoviak Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------
> When following a cult creates more questions and
> Discord then Solutions and answers, do you keep at
> It Against All Odds? Or do you start to try to
> rebuild your life?
Denial.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2020 06:47PM by DaWatcher.