Not all souls are made equal. In order to be a guru, a person must already be very pure at heart from the time they enter this reality.
Placed in the right family that will nurture the divine qualities even more.
Kind of like a Jesus figure.
When you carry few thousand on your shoulders, you cannot be in need of psych consults and exorcism yourself.
There is surely a difference between a person who is raised in an atmosphere of faith. Not atheism.
A relationship with any deity that is established since childhood, is much stronger.
SoI and Iskcon show you that the role of a spiritual guide is not to be taken as a joke.
Youbasically have the fate of souls in your hands.
And not all souls are mature enough to know how to play the SoI rigged games.
Not all are fortunate to be kids of senior SoI disciples.
Not all come from healthy family settings and mental stability.
The Vedas are written for a specific culture that is very different.
So one must adapt it to a modern and more sick society.
This is why the guru must be even more qualified than expected.
SoI is just suppression of negative feelings. You keep suppressing till you end up with a chronic illness.
It is a place that both heals you and makes you more sick at the same time.
What really scares me is how messed up this society is that one can still make progress in a seeting such as SoI.
And we take that progress as SoI and butler being THE all and all.
Instead of focusing on a loving divine relation, you must torture yourself all day along with the fear of offenses, saying or doing the wrong thing.
You keep pouring water on the fire of your progress.
And you only realize how dysfunctional it all is when you dare judging the experiences and situations. You wonder how the hell you fell for it.
But those within are fine with the low standards. Because the bliss they extract makes up for all the other non sense.

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> Daily Beast article
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> Protesters in Washington praise 'Russian Patriot'
> Vladimir Putin
>
> [www.thedailybeast.com]
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“They have been demonizing Russians for years,” she said, adding that Putin is a “Russian patriot.” “And this idea that he had no business invading Ukraine... nwhat else could he do? He was surrounded by NATO, and we were putting rockets into Pollan and arming Ukraine—and he was supposed to stand for that? I mean, that’s ridiculous. Really, there was nothing he could do but invade. And try to get the U.S. out of Ukraine.”

Complete misunderstanding of the situation from the point of view of Polish optics, which is also not a monolith. Poland as a country lost its independence for 123 years and was invaded by the Third Reich (September 1, 1939) and the USSR (September 17, 1939) in the Second World War. Murdering officers. concentration camps. Therefore, after 1989, there is a great sensitivity to Russia's imperial tendencies. And when it comes to the current government - inconsistent and morbid - the party that criticized the most loudly "and pissed" at Moscow at the same time bought minerals from Russia itself. It is considered the most penetrated by Russian agents. More centrist military circles open to peaceful coexistence with Russia, not fanatical hostile to Russia, at the same time were realistic about the possible confrontation and decided to help Ukraine - which at a critical moment turned out to be decisive when the world decided that Ukraine would fall in 3 days. Rockets? If not American, they will be Korean or their own. Despite the incompetence of the current government in investing in its own industry.

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Such sentiment was shared by former Democratic congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, who said from the main stage that the “proxy that we are fighting against Russia right now could turn at any moment into a direct conflict between the United States [and] NATO and Russia.” Gabbard then suggested that a Cold War could occur again.

Also a simplification by a notorious manipulator. Today, an important player is China, which, even according to the Russians, was supposed to "suck blood from the Russian economy". Russia, large cold territory, extended communication - the Russians failed economically, focusing mainly on minerals and the arms industry, the wealth was concentrated by an oligarchy that sends children to Western Europe. Service control. This creation had to annex the Donbass to live on. In turn, Ukraine in the NATO toolbox would indeed be a threat as a vice in the confrontation with China.

Tulsi Gabbard is a total manipulator. Her saving the world is doomed from the start.



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And also: if Russia was so sweet, why did it support attacking the Polish border with Belarus. Why support the poor, for example, Syrian migrants, allowing them to arrive and move to the Polish border? Why did these Russian benefactors accept the use of these unfortunate people, most of whom are men, but there were also women with children? Of course, the argument is - who was pushing for the Iranian conference in Warsaw. Either way - disease, ignorance, falsehood, hypocrisy.

As SoI/SIF itself.



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Tulsi was born into Butler's religion. She is a product of his organization.

The Gabbard family are the oligarchs of the Butler regime.

Tulsi's natural habitat is Butler's dictatorship.

Small wonder she spoke at a rally that appeared to be a Putin lovefest.



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By Butler and Tusli's logic, worrying about being inclusive and diverse in ones selection of leadership is "nazis and hitler". Nevermind her paramaguru bluntly said he did not think hitler was so bad and ran a totalitarian cult... Never mind he is on tape and lectures demeaning blacks, women, homosexuals and mulsims...

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I also love how modern "hindus" like ISKCON, Gaudiya math and SIF always hide under he "hindu" banner or even worse, their favorite "sanatana dharma", yet, any asshole can plainly see it is not a universal religion. It's gods wear indian clothing, sport peacock feathers and all the pastimes took place in, you guessed it, India!

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Gotta love the amount of lot "devtees" get paid for their "devotional service". Wonder wear most of that money went? Tin foil? [www.lgbtqnation.com]

Gabbard, the loved pure devotee of the SIF enterprise: [www.dailykos.com]

Like Butler, she is worried about the welfare of the American people. Her solution? call everyone who disagrees with her brand of identity politics a "hitler": [radaronline.com]

If you recall, she spent the better half of her political career playing major identity politics calling herself a "hindu". a word we never once used about ourselves growing up in the cult. Bhaktivednata even made it clear that his cult was not hinduism. All of a sudden for PR purposes it's convenient to slap hindu identity politics on every tom dick harry offshoot of Gaudiya groups out there...

The blissful bhaktas seek their "eternal" and "absolute" welfare in mickey mouse conceptions of gods and demons. Ultimatly it boils down to a clown act of docile melted minds that have forgotten how to think.

You see, the typical dynamic of a cult is to cry "equality! Tolerance! Inclusivity! Love for All!... But yet they are far from that. In my life as a devotee I hear more criticism of others than I ever have not being a devotee. Bhaktisiddhnata was very critical of other religious groups, so-called mayavadhis, other bhakti groups, anyone who did not accept his chaitanya avatar ideology and obviously his disciples—esepcially the fat ones, been though his own father was very obese.

Bhaktivedanta swami likewise. Whole lectures are dedicated to criticism of science, other religions and obviously many other things.

Butler needs no introduction is hugely intollerant and vulgarly vocal against anything that moved...

[bhaktisiddhantatruth.wordpress.com]

And you gotta love how naively the gaudiyas claim their chaitnaya saint as a "god" when he is not mentioned in any scriptures of the vedas, puranas or otherwise: Oh, well, he was a "hidden" avatar!" Can we call BS on all of this BS and move on pls?

Same with their "mahamantra" mentioned in one suspect text, backwards... how do these clowns get off claiming any absoluteness or authority. Their whole cult is built on dreams, visions and "hidden" secret :transcendental" revelations... yeah, well, so was Mormonism and Scientology, which all can also claim roots in some neo-christian dynamic.

I recall growing up in this cult devotees like Bhalakilya claiming that Butler and Tusta were incarnations of Nitai Gaura! You know, all while smoking Tulsi leaves and drinking odulls near beers...

Run. Make sure to stretch.

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> By Butler and Tusli's logic, worrying about being
> inclusive and diverse in ones selection of
> leadership is "nazis and hitler".

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This is one of the reasons I left the Democratic Party. You see how their agenda of identity politics directly undermines the traditional democratic values that were expressed beautifully and clearly by Dr. Martin Luther King, that we should judge each other not based on the color of our skin but based on our character.'

Judge on our character? Really? Balakhilya das says don't judge at all. Do not push yourself on the judge's position. Double standards in the cult and outside?

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'You look at the core values and core principles of Adolf Hitler and Nazism what is it based on? It’s based on genetics this philosophy of geneticism and discriminating based on their genes,' she said on Friday.

Oh come on. What about svastika? Slavic or Vedic? And what about the signifiers of the Roman legions vs Wehrmacht? Or similarities to Chris Butler? Gradual vegetarianism? Or maybe friendly bodyguards and a wife practicing yoga? How's Eva Braun?

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> Nevermind her
> paramaguru bluntly said he did not think hitler
> was so bad and ran a totalitarian cult... Never
> mind he is on tape and lectures demeaning blacks,
> women, homosexuals and mulsims...
>
> [www.dailymail.co.uk]


Muslims? Let's look on wiki QNET:

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In Saudi Arabia Qnet IRs were arrested in Mecca

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In Senegal Qnet recruited 108,000 members charging between 500 and 700 dollars. The official who issued document of official recognition to Qnet was arrested.[266][267] In Ghana Qnet claimed that its network employs 10,000 people who earn between 1000 and 10000 dollars per month.[268] In Gambia IRs were arrested.[269] In Kazakhstan Qnet was accused of making false promises.[270]

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Indonesia included Qnet on its list of bogus companies.[179][180][181][182] Four Qnet IRs were arrested for the murder of a Go-Car driver.[183][184] Qnet claimed that the company was not involved.[185]

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The Fatwa Committee of Kurdistan Iraq, issued a statement denouncing the activity of Qnet as haram.

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In June 2014, Chairman of the Fatwa Commission of the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) Riau province, appealed to citizens to avoid the business.[115]

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Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and India accused Qnet of operating a product-based pyramid scheme.[97][98][99][100] Dar al-Ifta issued Qnet a fatwa in 2012 stating Qnet's business in Egypt is haram (forbidden under Islamic law).

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"The Fatwa council at Dar al-Ifta al-Misriyyah declared that the binary form of transaction adopted by Qnet is prohibited under Sharia law.[62]"

Even Mecca, holy place for Muslims...

RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote:
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> You see, the typical dynamic of a cult is to cry
> "equality! Tolerance! Inclusivity! Love for
> All!... But yet they are far from that. In my life
> as a devotee I hear more criticism of others than
> I ever have not being a devotee. Bhaktisiddhnata
> was very critical of other religious groups,
> so-called mayavadhis, other bhakti groups, anyone
> who did not accept his chaitanya avatar ideology
> and obviously his disciples—esepcially the fat
> ones, been though his own father was very obese.

The recruitment motive takes various manifestations. Equality, etc. as the mild version, and the exclusivity of salvation as the other. A few days ago I spoke with some faction of Jehovah's Witnesses and it quickly comes out that if you do not accept their version of interpretation of the Bible or critical elements of doctrine, you will hear "you do not believe in Jesus", "you reject Jesus".

> I recall growing up in this cult devotees like
> Bhalakilya claiming that Butler and Tusta were
> incarnations of Nitai Gaura! You know, all while
> smoking Tulsi leaves and drinking odulls near
> beers...


Is there any recorded evidence of this statement by Balakhilya dasa? Nitai-gaur incarnation? If it's correct, it's Gaura-Nitai.

It is a strange incarnation - David Muncie - who gave his cows (his own mother in Hinduism) to an ordinary breeder. And a strange incarnation - Chris Butler - who needed fasting, LSD, hashish and marijuana to enlightenment... And his brothers in God - vs. Caitanya singing with Muslims - called his brothers at Iskcon "clumps of dog stool".

Translation a message from Tapasya das

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March 19, 1997 SECRETARIAT

For the information of the press department of the "Chaitanya Mission"
Namaste!

I present some guidelines that will help us defend ourselves against the fascist campaign propagated by some circles referring to the Catholic Church.

We don't want religious violence.

We have to tell the Catholic Church that there are millions of Krishna followers in the world and if if they behaved in India like Catholics in Poland, they could stop the work of Catholics in India.

Some Catholics fear for their place in the market of ideas. It is an admission of disbelief that their philosophy and ideas are strong enough to attract people and therefore they must resort to violence and fascism.

We should go to Catholic churches and their offices and say we want to give away there flyers and say our prayers with them. (as they did to us in Krakow).
Let's give them one week to stop this witch-hunt and then use the same methods as they did they use. Not to disturb, but to introduce our flyers. Let's challenge them - let's provoke them to debate about philosophy and ideas. Let it be a war of philosophy and ideas, and no force and violence.

Consider lawsuits. An example would be the slogan - "If they attack us, then we we will respond with 100 times more force." We should let them know that we will not tolerate it people who interfere with our business.

Let's challenge the government: "Do you want a state ruled by law or by bandits?"

The basis of a democratic state is the rule of law. If it is not respected, if they happen situations where the strong make the law, this is the formula of anarchy and fascism.

Only in a country where the strong are subject to the same rules as the weak, and the latter can express themselves your ideas. This is freedom of speech.
We must directly challenge the government and authority of the Catholic Church. let's ask for meet and discuss the situation.

Let us be clear that they do not behave like spiritual persons. Spiritual persons do not behave like fascists and bandits. They are trying to explain the situation in a peaceful way. They have faith in God and faith in the ability of people to know who God is and who he is not, and the freedom of choice within each person her path.

The pamphlet "Beyond Sectarianism and Religious Fanaticism" should be widely distributed.

We will also place it in the Haribol Polska newspaper.

All these opponents of other faiths act like Muslims and convert by force.
Tapasya das

Realities should be kept in mind in the context of the ambitious educator and world savior, Tapasya das. In 2020, "IWoT" or SoI Polska reported that it had 600 members. Something went wrong.

The bolded part about challenging is very important. It was "IWoT" who conducted meditation classes in Narashinga das' apartment-studio, where there were Catholic schools around, without permission to teach and without respecting the studio-lease agreement. So the scandal that ended with the expulsion of Narashing das began with disrespect for the law and contracts - by SoI Poland (IWoT Instytut Wiedzy o Tozsamosci, Science of Identity Institute).

Former members also remember Madhava dasi discussing Narashinga das' pension and Chris Butler's expectation that half (50%) should go to the "guru".

Former members also remember the situation that when the center in Krakow moved to the city center - previously it was in a beautiful place in Bielany - Narashinga das settled there. He was well cared for. When the control came, however, there was a request to go out to the city and wander there. He wasn't supposed to be there at the time of the inspection.



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T.Gabbard:

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“Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such thing as Wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty, without Freedom of Speech.” - Benjamin Franklin

Her Guru:

"If I don’t want to answer you, you are at fault not me.”

"If you don’t know you are not supposed to know.”

"It is your fault, the guru is faultless.”

As Sai:

"Once the spiritual master is accepted, it is a process of laying the intellect aside and hearing submissively the words he is saying"* **

Stick to the marked Tulsi line. Stick strictly to the drawn line.


* forget pramana, forget asking questions
** page 42, v.17



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