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zelig
... I am also interested in the people who had the strength to leave and why. Also, many people suffered after-effects that lasted for years after leaving the group.
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whitemoon
What they dont understand is that it is the simple person, the basic form of life, that keeps them and this planet going ... all the bureaucrats, all the karmis, all the meat eaters, we keep you on the road, we keep your administrative systems going, we keep your food and stinkin vegetables in the stores, we keep your roads roadworthy, we pay your taxes, we keep your lights on at night, the ordinary karmi person makes your life GO ... yet you turn your nose down at us. ...
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wanda
Thank-you for this great website. I had a best friend once but she has been consumed by the movement in hawaaii. She is very secretive about what it is exactly that she has been doing over there for the pas 6 years.
Thanks to all the information posted i now have a much better understanding of what is she is up to. Sometimes it's better not to know too much as im totally confused as to what to do about all this information in regards to her. She is an adult after all, a free thinking one definately not. No loud and proud on this belief thats for sure it has to make one wonder!!!! Any tips i would love to hear from you.
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krishnakid
I can't say much without giving my identity away.
I was a Krishna kid. I grew up in the middle of it. I was in the school in Samoa that Mike Gabbard (Krishna Katha) ran. Later they moved the school to the Phillipines and some other disciple took over. Most of the stuff I read here is accurate, some might be out-of-date. I think some of the names mentioned might have left the cult. I've been away for a long time and don't know for sure. I only hear things second or third hand now. When I got old enough to make up my own mind I got out of it. The world is a much brighter place both spiritually and materially than most in Chris's world think.
I learned the philosophy better than most because from reading all the books by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, who Chris is suppose to be following, I do not believe what Chris has made even slightly resembles a true 'Krishna Conscious' or 'God Centered' society. It was more like a 'Chris Butler' centered society. With him as the deity not God as the center.
Everyone is supposed to live simply, in other words give most of your money or energy to Chris, or give everything. Meanwhile he lives like some kind of super billionaire demigod with people competing to be the one who gets the glorious privilege of drinking his footwater.
Millions of dollars and never even built one decent temple for God/Krishna?? What about feeding the poor (prasadam) or other charitable work recommended by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami and all other God conscious gurus and saintly persons? What about the symptoms of a guru posted by Barbara?
What the heck do they do with all the money anyway? Down to Earth alone must rake in hundreds of thousands what to speak of all the money that gets donated to Chris from around the world. Where does the money go???
I guess Kailuaboy knows where the money goes. A free ride for the guru and queen bee. I bet he lives in some palace by now served by underlings ready to facilitate his every whim.
A self-realized soul is supposed to be detached from unneeded comforts. What a bunch of horse do.
If any others of my kind are watching this do yourself a favor and get out. Self realization does not end with Chris Butler. Krishna Consciousness may be real, but that cult is not. Wake up!!!
There are more of us out here than you think. There is help for you.