Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: March 03, 2009 05:32AM

Here is an old discussion on this cult in another forum. It was started by cultreporter. Lots of interesting thoughts on the SOI cult, cults in general, and on cult busting. It's one of the few places left -- besides Rick Ross -- that discusses the Butler cult.
skeptics forum on SoI

The cultofbuter website is completely down, probably due to all of the lawsuits several people warned cultreporter about.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: antarctic ()
Date: March 03, 2009 05:14PM

The truth about Cara Cult Reporter has come out.
See for yourself.

[www.sif-facts.com]

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: March 03, 2009 09:11PM

antarctic:

What is your positition about Chris Butler and the Science of Identity group?

Do you consider Butler a "cult leader" and the group destructive?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: March 03, 2009 09:43PM

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antarctic
The truth about Cara Cult Reporter has come out.
See for yourself.

[www.sif-facts.com]

I think you just came out.

You guys are pathetic and paranoid...

Defend your miserable death cult

and don't forget to smile as you serve your schizophrenic psychopath master.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: March 05, 2009 08:27AM

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rrmoderator
antarctic:

What is your positition about Chris Butler and the Science of Identity group?

Do you consider Butler a "cult leader" and the group destructive?

Notice no response....
because Butler is behind the website.


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antarctic
The truth about Cara Cult Reporter has come out.
See for yourself.

[www.sif-facts.com]


I think you just came out.

You guys are pathetic and paranoid...

Defend your miserable death cult

and don't forget to smile as you serve your schizophrenic psychopath master.

Antartic~
Do you really think creating this website changes anyone's mind about your delusional leader!?
Do you really think it changes how your cult tears families apart and exploits people with your lies!?
Do you really think we are so easily fooled!?
Once again Siddha has created a straw man to beat up... to shore up his fake authority.
It is Butler's typical, life-long M.O.
Classic.
His signature is all over the place.
Yeah, you just came out.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: just-googling ()
Date: March 06, 2009 12:31AM

Antarctic may have some valid concerns about the motivations and character of "Cara Cult Reporter" -- as evidenced by her constant attacks on ANYONE who posted on this forum ... kind of like a two-headed snake that would lash out at anyone within range...

HOWEVER, Antarctic fails to address the main issues that have been raised about Butler's character on this forum by some sensible and knowledgeable people. Some of these issues were recently reposted on the previous page of this thread in Zelig's brilliant letter and include the following red flags:

* Narcissism

* Paranoia

* Excessively extravagant lifestyle / Wasting other people's hard earned money (or inheritances?) on questionable political projects etc. and extravagant lifestyle.

* Control freak / Dirty politics more important than the religion itself.

* Using religion as a form of hypnotic mind control, which certain individuals seem to be very prone to.

* Self-aggrandizement and constantly belittling other human beings (except his Chinese woman and her children)

* Questionable obsession with anti-homosexuality campaigns.

etc.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Jay Cruise ()
Date: March 06, 2009 10:04AM

Hang on, let's use that "critical thinking" you guys talk about.

The first "Key Fact" on the front page consists of two myspace quotes without a link. Why? I located this alleged "evidence" that was last editted back on the 16 october 2008:

[www.myspace.com]

Plus the cache just in case they delete it: [209.85.173.132]

Wow! This certainly is frontpage stuff: "I am a liar, a coward and a thief," "I am a nutbag" and "I am completely paranoid."

SIF wouldn't have fabricated this juvenile malarkey by any chance?

Haribol! "There's my cult. I sing in the choir."

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: March 06, 2009 11:02AM

Jay Cruise:

The topic and focus of this thread is not Christ Butler's critics, but rather Butler and his group.

What is your opinion of Butler and his group?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Jay Cruise ()
Date: March 06, 2009 12:50PM

Sorry,

My post is suggesting that SIF used fabricated evidence to discredit a critic. I can't see how that would make me a fan of Butler.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: March 06, 2009 09:35PM

Jay Cruise:

And so what is your opinion concerning Butlter and his group?

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